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scrymettet
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who's with me ?
Just 9 cd
Dec 28 12 05:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus
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Opera is my degree.  I sang on the stage professionally.  I do not like Wagner.  Especially Der Ring.
Dec 28 12 05:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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scrymettet
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DivaEroticus wrote:
Opera is my degree.  I sang on the stage professionally.  I do not like Wagner.  Especially Der Ring.

can we settle on the Die Zauberflöte ?

Dec 28 12 05:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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Marc Damon
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DivaEroticus wrote:
Opera is my degree.  I sang on the stage professionally.  I do not like Wagner.  Especially Der Ring.

I have been a musician of sorts all my life but admittedly, never listened to much opera. So I'll give Wagner a go and maybe learn a bit in the process. smile

Dec 28 12 05:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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Eye of Sicari
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didn't he kill Natalie Wood?
Dec 28 12 05:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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scrymettet
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Eye of Sicari wrote:
didn't he kill Natalie Wood?

lol

Dec 28 12 05:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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scrymettet
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Marc Damon wrote:

I have been a musician of sorts all my life but admittedly, never listened to much opera. So I'll give Wagner a go and maybe learn a bit in the process. smile

go to Mozart first.

Dec 28 12 05:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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Marc Damon
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scrymettet wrote:

go to Mozart first.

Ah... classical 101. Those guys play some weird guitars. You need foot long fingers just to wrap your hand around the neck!

Dec 28 12 05:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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scrymettet
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Marc Damon wrote:

Ah... classical 101. Those guys play some weird guitars. You need foot long fingers just to wrap your hand around the neck!

You know some Mozart already
I cannot know your classical background
but everybody knows some Mozart
it's easier to build from that

Dec 28 12 05:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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Reflected
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scrymettet wrote:
can we settle on the Die Zauberflöte ?

Bald.  Bald, Jüngling.  Oder nie.

Dec 28 12 05:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus
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scrymettet wrote:

can we settle on the Die Zauberflöte ?

I've done the Queen of the Night.

Dec 28 12 05:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus
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Marc Damon wrote:

Ah... classical 101. Those guys play some weird guitars. You need foot long fingers just to wrap your hand around the neck!

Nothing wrong with a hand wrapped around my a guitar's neck...

Dec 28 12 05:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus wrote:

I've done the Queen of the Night.

yikes

I am in love
marry me ?
wait, gotta ask my wife first

Dec 28 12 05:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus
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scrymettet wrote:

yikes

I am in love
marry me ?
wait, gotta ask my wife first

Hehehe tongue

Dec 28 12 05:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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scrymettet wrote:
who's with me ?
Just 9 cd

All from one set? whose?

Dec 28 12 05:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Reflected wrote:

All from one set? whose?

me bad
14 cd
Böhn at Bayreuth Festival 1967

Dec 28 12 05:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Russian Katarina II
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It's a bitch to get tickets to the Bayreuth festival. Personally, I prefer Salzburg.
Dec 28 12 05:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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Marc Damon
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DivaEroticus wrote:

Nothing wrong with a hand wrapped around my a guitar's neck...

There's a line of text above that porn you Tease!! ;
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?threa … st17865003

Dec 28 12 05:39 pm  Link  Quote 
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udor
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DivaEroticus wrote:
Opera is my degree.  I sang on the stage professionally.  I do not like Wagner.  Especially Der Ring.

I never was a fan of opera... classical music... absolutely, ballet... yeah... okay... but somehow, never opera.

However, I liked the Ring (

Dec 28 12 05:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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udor wrote:

I never was a fan of opera... classical music... absolutely, ballet... yeah... okay... but somehow, never opera.

However, I liked the Rind der Nibelungen and read it in Mittelhochdeutsch... medieval German.

Funnily, I always though Wagner wrote it from scratch.

Dec 28 12 05:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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scrymettet wrote:
me bad
14 cd
Böhn at Bayreuth Festival 1967

If you get the chance to hear Karajan's Rheingold...  You'll thank me.

Dec 28 12 05:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Reflected wrote:

If you get the chance to hear Karajan's Rheingold...  You'll thank me.

gonna keep an eyes open for it

Dec 28 12 05:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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Reflected wrote:

If you get the chance to hear Karajan's Rheingold...  You'll thank me.

I like Karajan, it's free.  It's when you Czech that you have to pay.

Dec 28 12 05:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Marc Damon wrote:

There's a line of text above that porn you Tease!! ;
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?threa … st17865003

Lies!  I saw nothing.

Dec 28 12 05:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus wrote:

I like Karajan, it's free.  It's when you Czech that you have to pay.

:scratch head:

I hardly ever get English punts

Dec 28 12 05:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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udor wrote:

I never was a fan of opera... classical music... absolutely, ballet... yeah... okay... but somehow, never opera.

However, I liked the Rind der Nibelungen and read it in Mittelhochdeutsch... medieval German.

Rind is certainly tasty. I like a good Rumpsteak mit Bratkartoffeln.

I'm surprised they have never done a good movie adaption of the Nibelungen saga. It could be epic like the Lord of the Rings.

It's kind of sad that the Nazis have forever spoiled the Germanic cultural heritage for modern Germans. Most don't even know about the Nibelungen nor have they read it, although it's easily as significant for their culture as Beowulf is for the British or the Illiad for the Greeks.

Dec 28 12 05:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus
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udor wrote:

I never was a fan of opera... classical music... absolutely, ballet... yeah... okay... but somehow, never opera.

However, I liked the Rind der Nibelungen and read it in Mittelhochdeutsch... medieval German.

One of the reasons is mostly because there are no real arias for individuals.  There are brief bits for singers, but nothing substantial, other than in a few operas.  Plus, he's just too heavy for me.  I'm the same way about Richard Strauss...too heavy, though I do like a lot of his Lieder.  Especially "Zweignung."

Dec 28 12 05:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus wrote:

Lies!  I saw nothing.

You only saw the porn? LOL I'm not surprised!
Here it is again just for you. tongue

Marc Damon wrote:
Ask and ye shall receive!

Dec 28 12 05:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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udor
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udor wrote:
I never was a fan of opera... classical music... absolutely, ballet... yeah... okay... but somehow, never opera.

However, I liked the Rind der Nibelungen and read it in Mittelhochdeutsch... medieval German.
scrymettet wrote:
Funnily, I always though Wagner wrote it from scratch.

Oh, no... the original title of this very old Germanic saga/legend is "Das Nibelungenlied" (Song of the Nibelungs) is almost 1.500 years old...

EDIT: It recollects a story that is 1,500 years old, but was written down maybe only a thousand years ago.

Dec 28 12 05:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Hair Stylist
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Wagner is a genius, thats why he is hard to comprehend (listen to)...
Dec 28 12 05:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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scrymettet
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DivaEroticus wrote:

One of the reasons is mostly because there are no real arias for individuals.  There are brief bits for singers, but nothing substantial, other than in a few operas.  Plus, he's just too heavy for me.  I'm the same way about Richard Strauss...too heavy, though I do like a lot of his Lieder.  Especially "Zweignung."

I like the last ones but I am no singer

Dec 28 12 05:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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udor wrote:

udor wrote:
I never was a fan of opera... classical music... absolutely, ballet... yeah... okay... but somehow, never opera.

However, I liked the Rind der Nibelungen and read it in Mittelhochdeutsch... medieval German.

Oh, no... the original title of this very old Germanic saga/legend is "Das Nibelungenlied" (Song of the Nibelungs) is almost 1.500 years old...

cool
I learnt something today

Dec 28 12 05:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus
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Katarina N. wrote:

Rind is certainly tasty. I like a good Rumpsteak mit Bratkartoffeln.

I'm surprised they have never done a good movie adaption of the Nibelungen saga. It could be epic like the Lord of the Rings.

It's kind of sad that the Nazis have forever spoiled the Germanic cultural heritage for modern Germans. Most don't even know about the Nibelungen nor have they read it, although it's easily as significant for their culture as Beowulf is for the British or the Illiad for the Greeks.

I've found that opera doesn't translate well to the silver screen.  It loses its impact without the singing.  I may not like Wagner, but I think it would do his work a great disservice to turn it into a movie.

Dec 28 12 05:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus wrote:
I like Karajan, it's free.  It's when you Czech that you have to pay.

Back in the overhead bin with thee, overnight bag.

Dec 28 12 05:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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Russian Katarina II
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DivaEroticus wrote:
I've found that opera doesn't translate well to the silver screen.  It loses its impact without the singing.  I may not like Wagner, but I think it would do his work a great disservice to turn it into a movie.

I am not talking about Wagner, but about the Nibelungen saga - of which Ring der Nibelungen is but an interpretation.

It's an epic saga in its own right, much like Beowulf. If it wasn't about Germans, it would have probably already been given the Hollywood treatment. Hollywood prefers them as one thing only though: Evil Nazis. Epic Germanic heroes wouldn't go over well with the Jewish top brass in the studios. wink

Dec 28 12 05:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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udor
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Katarina N. wrote:
Hollywood prefers them as one thing only though: Evil Nazis.

Very true!

Dec 28 12 05:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus
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Muff Rider wrote:
Wagner is a genius, thats why he is hard to comprehend (listen to)...

I just don't like the heavy nature of the music.  It's not hard to comprehend (listen to), I just don't like it. I also wouldn't call him a genius.  His leitmotifs were groundbreaking, but his predecessors were the geniuses from whom he borrowed and learned.

Dec 28 12 05:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus
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Katarina N. wrote:

I am not talking about Wagner, but about the Nibelungen saga - of which Ring der Nibelungen is but an interpretation.

It's an epic saga in its own right, much like Beowulf. If it wasn't about Germans, it would have probably already given the Hollywood treatment. Hollywood prefers them as one thing only though: Evil Nazis.

Ah, misunderstood your post, then.  Yes, the saga itself would be a great screenplay.

Dec 28 12 06:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus
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Reflected wrote:

Back in the overhead bin with thee, overnight bag.

lol tongue

Dec 28 12 06:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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udor
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Muff Rider wrote:
Wagner is a genius, thats why he is hard to comprehend (listen to)...

Well... as your handle suggests... the probable reason you can hardly listen to Wagner is because your ears maybe covered by inner thighs... tongue

Dec 28 12 06:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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