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Model
Mary Thomson
Posts: 1,291
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


EDIT:  I deleted the first photo (the one the photographer has put on his website, which I'll link to here: http://tomlau.com.au/images/_MG_1244_Mary%27.jpg

So I'd now love your opinions on this image: http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31124303

Thanks.
Dec 30 12 01:15 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Margaret Hope
Posts: 820
Seattle, Washington, US


You seem really stiff. There's movement in the hair but no movement or engery in your body. Great styling.

If something isn't flattering on you then make it look flattering. If its not your style then pretend it is.
Dec 30 12 02:13 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Mary Thomson
Posts: 1,291
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Margaret Hope wrote:
You seem really stiff. There's movement in the hair but no movement or engery in your body. Great styling.

If something isn't flattering on you then make it look flattering. If its not your style then pretend it is.

Thanks for your input.

You're right, the Photographer asked me for expression and emotionless so I guess I delivered there haha but do you believe it is not good enough to add to my portfolio?

Dec 30 12 02:29 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
T B O L
Posts: 1,952
Canterbury, England, United Kingdom


IMHO it's not good for your port for the reasons you've already identified. Your port is much stronger without it.
Dec 30 12 02:39 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Margaret Hope
Posts: 820
Seattle, Washington, US


Mary Thomson wrote:
Thanks for your input.

You're right, the Photographer asked me for expression and emotionless so I guess I delivered there haha but do you believe it is not good enough to add to my portfolio?

I personally love the picture of the styling and the photography but it really doesn't show off your skills as a model. Delete it and start practicing expression in front of the mirror. Your other pictures are nice smile

Dec 30 12 02:43 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Mary Thomson
Posts: 1,291
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Okay, thanks guys!
Dec 30 12 02:52 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Samantha Liana
Posts: 2,585
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


yeah I agree with the above
Dec 30 12 05:14 am  Link  Quote 
Model
EMILY C
Posts: 939
Portland, Maine, US


Extend your neck!

You look like your hunching your shoulders up, and it looks stiff and uncomfortable.
Dec 30 12 05:19 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Mary Thomson
Posts: 1,291
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


model emily  wrote:
Extend your neck!

You look like your hunching your shoulders up, and it looks stiff and uncomfortable.

Haha I was jumping and flicking my hair over my shoulder, guess its not the best for me then. Oh well, I was so happy with the over all look of the shoot, pity I've nothing to show for it.

I'll delete the photo now, thanks everyone.

Dec 30 12 05:30 am  Link  Quote 
Model
EMILY C
Posts: 939
Portland, Maine, US


Mary Thomson wrote:

Haha I was jumping and flicking my hair over my shoulder, guess its not the best for me then. Oh well, I was so happy with the over all look of the shoot, pity I've nothing to show for it.

I'll delete the photo now, thanks everyone.

It's hard to do.

Do you have any other photos from the shoot?  It is a cool look, I just don't think it's the best shot.

Dec 30 12 05:57 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Paige Morgan
Posts: 3,860
New York, New York, US


model emily  wrote:

It's hard to do.

Do you have any other photos from the shoot?  It is a cool look, I just don't think it's the best shot.

^This^ I really like the look/styling, but am not so much about this specific shot....did you receive any others?

Dec 30 12 05:59 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
intense_puppy
Posts: 832
Brighton, England, United Kingdom


I get a 404 error on that page? Did you take it down?
Dec 30 12 06:14 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Mary Thomson
Posts: 1,291
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Yes you all hated it so I removed it haha
Dec 30 12 01:29 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Mary Thomson
Posts: 1,291
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


New image up! Any nicer thoughts on this one?
Dec 30 12 01:56 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
EMILY C
Posts: 939
Portland, Maine, US


I like it better!
Dec 30 12 02:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Paige Morgan
Posts: 3,860
New York, New York, US


Mary Thomson wrote:
New image up! Any nicer thoughts on this one?

I like this one better than the first one, but you still look a little stiff/uncomfortable, like the styling was a bit much for your taste and it tossed off your rhythm a wee bit.

Dec 30 12 02:03 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Mary Thomson
Posts: 1,291
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


model emily  wrote:
I like it better!

Better but still not good enough to be in port or what?

Dec 30 12 02:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Mary Thomson
Posts: 1,291
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Paige Morgan wrote:

I like this one better than the first one, but you still look a little stiff/uncomfortable, like the styling was a bit much for your taste and it tossed off your rhythm a wee bit.

Bummer. My hair was only purple for two weeks, I obviously should of gotten more shoots in in that time haha

Dec 30 12 02:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
EMILY C
Posts: 939
Portland, Maine, US


Mary Thomson wrote:

Better but still not good enough to be in port or what?

Yeah, I think it looks good in your port.  smile

Dec 30 12 02:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
RebeccaChristine
Posts: 6,700
Chester, England, United Kingdom


It's a shame because I love the styling and make up on the series - but obviously you are the model so the modelling is what you need to showcase! The new image is much better for yourself as a model, if you have any that aren't so overexposed that show your make up and such better that would be even cooler for your portfolio as something that stands out.

Other than that, i like the vulnerability in your pose.
Dec 30 12 02:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Paige Morgan
Posts: 3,860
New York, New York, US


model emily  wrote:

Yeah, I think it looks good in your port.  smile

I'd put it in, just because it's a vastly different look than what you've currently got, and the styling is well done.

Dec 30 12 02:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Margaret Hope
Posts: 820
Seattle, Washington, US


Mary Thomson wrote:
New image up! Any nicer thoughts on this one?

Much better than the other one. I still think you could have more energy in the photo but it is a good picture to have in your portfolio smile

Dec 30 12 02:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Mary Thomson
Posts: 1,291
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Margaret Hope wrote:

Much better than the other one. I still think you could have more energy in the photo but it is a good picture to have in your portfolio smile

Yay, thanks everyone!

Dec 30 12 02:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kincaid Blackwood
Posts: 22,377
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Mary Thomson wrote:
Yes you all hated it so I removed it haha

As an aside, it can be helpful to keep such photos up so that you can get additional comparisons.  I mean, while there was universal votes against it, theoretically, you could end up with the next 12 people thinking its the most awesome thing ever.  Probably not, but it does allow people to offer constructive feedback that may have been missed by others. 

That said, the two images linked provide you with an additional dynamic in your portfolio.  It's a nice change of pace, the tone is radically different from others and lets you show of a look not otherwise featured in your image set at the present time.  Is it the best photo of you in the history of ever?  I would question why it needs to be, mainly due to where you are with your modeling. 

If you are at a point where you want to shift gears and rebuild, then this is a starting point.  If you seek to present yourself as a canvas of sorts in an effort to branch out to photographers in your area in a “This is what I can do, this is the range I have, these are some of the possibilities I can offer.” then these do the trick. 

As to whether they will stand the test of time, that remains to be seen based on future imagery.  As it stands, these provide a good intro to a changing look and a diversity of expression.  I prefer the one of the far right (of the four) but I get the impression that this image as shown is considered the final presentation.  That's unfortunate because I'm not wild about the other three.  They're not bad but they don't enhance the one in the far right when packaged together.  It would be best as a standalone. 

The side-view photo is nice.  I'd keep it.  You'll continually reassess as you shoot and see how these stack up against newer work as you go but for now, it's a keep in my opinion.

Dec 30 12 03:41 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DougBPhoto
Posts: 33,476
Portland, Oregon, US


Kincaid Blackwood wrote:
As an aside, it can be helpful to keep such photos up so that you can get additional comparisons.  I mean, while there was universal votes against it, theoretically, you could end up with the next 12 people thinking its the most awesome thing ever.  Probably not, but it does allow people to offer constructive feedback that may have been missed by others. 

That said, the two images linked provide you with an additional dynamic in your portfolio.  It's a nice change of pace, the tone is radically different from others and lets you show of a look not otherwise featured in your image set at the present time.  Is it the best photo of you in the history of ever?  I would question why it needs to be, mainly due to where you are with your modeling. 

If you are at a point where you want to shift gears and rebuild, then this is a starting point.  If you seek to present yourself as a canvas of sorts in an effort to branch out to photographers in your area in a “This is what I can do, this is the range I have, these are some of the possibilities I can offer.” then these do the trick. 

As to whether they will stand the test of time, that remains to be seen based on future imagery.  As it stands, these provide a good intro to a changing look and a diversity of expression.  I prefer the one of the far right (of the four) but I get the impression that this image as shown is considered the final presentation.  That's unfortunate because I'm not wild about the other three.  They're not bad but they don't enhance the one in the far right when packaged together.  It would be best as a standalone. 

The side-view photo is nice.  I'd keep it.  You'll continually reassess as you shoot and see how these stack up against newer work as you go but for now, it's a keep in my opinion.

I agree.

Unlike the previous "majority", I actually preferred the original quadlet (4 pics side by side) as it appeared to capture what either the photographer or the wardrobe designer were aiming for, and isn't that the primary goal of a model, to deliver what the client wants, even if it isn't what is best for her portfolio.

It often makes me wonder when people critique a model's images as if they know what the designer or photographer wanted, and my criticize a model for giving exactly what she was asked to give.

Are they unqualified, exceptional images for her portfolio, clearly not, but do we NEVER see things even published that we think "OMG, I'd have never done that that way" or something similar, but if the client was happy, and the model did her job, isn't THAT the point?

Of course, when someone has a much larger body of work to draw upon, it is far easier to be hypercritical in determining the absolute best.

Ultimately, what matters most is the opinion of the people who might hire her (or seek to work with her), and that may have nothing to do with what we feel is the best photo.

Dec 30 12 08:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Pallas Manula
Posts: 28
San Francisco, California, US


Strong photo, imo.
Jan 03 13 11:39 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SKITA Studios
Posts: 1,316
Boston, Massachusetts, US


to be honest, you've got better stuff in your portfolio...
Jan 03 13 07:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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