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WARNING! Kiddie Porn Seekers on MM!!!!
I was recently approached by a photog on MM that did teen lingerie shoots. TEENS BEWARE! Dec 31 12 12:56 pm Link that may not be technically against the rules. if you have concerns, contact a moderator (look under help up top on the upper right). - Members under 18 are not allowed to display photos which need to be marked "M" - these include: "implied" nudity, depictions of blood/violence/gore, bondage, or any image that is overtly sexual in nature. Dec 31 12 12:59 pm Link Shelbiee Savage wrote: I don't know the content of the messages, but it is something that violates site rules, you should contact a mod: Dec 31 12 01:00 pm Link Lingerie may be inappriate, but it isn't necessarily "kiddie porn." It would really depend on specifically what you were asked to do. That having been said, I generally won't shoot lingerie with models under 18. Most other photographers here will not as well. If you were asked to do something you felt inappropriate, you absolutely did the right thing by turning it down. I am just hesitant to call it "kiddie porn." For the record though, you are in Florida. A few years ago, they tightened up their rules because of sites like trueteenbabes.com, which is partially shot in Florida. It is hard to say what they do and do not consider to be kiddie porn down there. Dec 31 12 01:01 pm Link not according to my reading of the rules (if the image isn't 18+). maybe a moderator can help clarify. Paige Morgan wrote: Dec 31 12 01:01 pm Link Actually depending on the content there's nothing illegal about this.. True Teen Babes has been through the courts and is still active. In Florida, it's fairly subjective as to what is legal and illegal.. And the legislature has attempted to more tightly define things.. I mean, you are aware that there are teens posing in bra and panties for places like Sears, Kmart, Target, etc, right?? Again, it's not illegal, but context is important.. Though admittedly, it may give one a bad rep.. Dec 31 12 01:01 pm Link No, I mean REAL lingerie. Not like regular target/sears bras and panties, I'm talking Fredricks of Hollywood Dec 31 12 01:03 pm Link Tropical Photography wrote: They were actually prosecuted in Colorado, not Florida. Florida responded by changing their laws to specifically target them. I know they list a Florida address. I think they are doing most of their production in Colorado now to avoid the new Florida statutes. Dec 31 12 01:03 pm Link Shelbiee Savage wrote: And your point is? That's not porn by any stretch of the imagination nor is it illegal in most places. Please, before you go crazy spreading rumors, get your facts straight. Dec 31 12 01:05 pm Link Shelbiee Savage wrote: Shooting a teen in lingerie isn't Kiddie Porn. I know you're 16 but are you effin' serious? Dec 31 12 01:06 pm Link Shelbiee Savage wrote: Aaron Lewis Photography wrote: Umm, that would depend on the lingerie and the specific poses. There has been one case where a non-nude image was found to violate 18 USC 2256. It is certainly possible for a lingerie shot with a minor to be illegal. It is also possible for it to be perfectly legal. It depends on a lot of things. Dec 31 12 01:07 pm Link Everybody run for your life! Teen angst and a bunch of ridiculous drama about perverts! OH NO, ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!!! ...come back when you're older, kid. Dec 31 12 01:08 pm Link Michael Pandolfo wrote: +1 Dec 31 12 01:08 pm Link  Moderator Warning!If you cannot be helpful to the O.P. please move on without rude or condescending comments. Dec 31 12 01:09 pm Link twoharts wrote: The rules are open to interpretation, and we have no idea what the messages actually said. In any case, contacting a mod would give the OP the correct answer as to the messages being inappropriate or not. Dec 31 12 01:10 pm Link Shelbiee Savage wrote: That isn't illegal. Maybe a bit distasteful but not illegal. Many fashion models who do sexy lingerie and clothing for editorials and ads are under 18. Fredrick's and VS are more adult in nature but neither are pornographic. Dec 31 12 01:10 pm Link  Moderator Note!Shelbiee, Please use the Contact A Mod feature to contact us regarding this. http://www.ripoffreport.com Dec 31 12 01:10 pm Link ei Total Productions wrote: Shelbiee Savage wrote: Umm, that would depend on the lingerie and the specific poses. There has been one case where a non-nude image was found to violate 18 USC 2256. It is certainly possible for a lingerie shot with a minor to be illegal. It is also possible for it to be perfectly legal. It depends on a lot of things. Understood but there's still a pretty major overreaction here, wouldn't you agree? Dec 31 12 01:10 pm Link Aaron Lewis Photography wrote: The O.P has a valid question. There have been cases where images were not within the guidelines of what we allow. Dec 31 12 01:14 pm Link Blue Cube Imaging wrote: The OP didn't pose a question. Nor did she pose a valid concern. The OP made an accusation based on ignorance. Dec 31 12 01:16 pm Link Beware of what? A complete overreaction. Please don't go out in public or to the beach as you may be shocked by the attire of teens these days. Dec 31 12 01:18 pm Link Then instruct her to use CAM so that we can help her. Dec 31 12 01:18 pm Link OP, you need to CAM the profile you are referring to. That way it can be dealt with accordingly. Dec 31 12 01:20 pm Link Blue Cube Imaging wrote: I did. Even gave her the link. Dec 31 12 01:22 pm Link Michael Pandolfo wrote: Thank you. What "we" allow and yelling and screaming kiddie porn related to MM in a public forum while making false accusations is pretty harsh. Dec 31 12 01:28 pm Link The definition of child pornography was meant to be precise but like anything else in the law isn't. It is illegal to show a juvenile in a sexual context. The problem with that is what is a sexual context to one isn't to another. Our concept of sexual depends on education, religion, and upbringing. If she finds it objectionable then she shouldn't do it. But, on the other hand, she shouldn't force her beliefs or paranoia on others. She may have thought she was doing right but like so many others thinking they are doing right, made the mistake of thinking that her way of thinking is the right way for everyone. Some call that extremists, some call it immature, some call right wing religious fanaticism. Regardless what you call it, it really does not belong in such a place as a MM forum. Dec 31 12 01:38 pm Link |
