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Shon D.- Homme
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Michael Kerrek wrote:
I didn't say "easy", or painless, or any number of other things that have your oh-my-god-someone-thinks-giving-birth-is-easy defensiveness all a-twitter.

I said "not noteworthy," and "not an accomplishment", and compared it to another biological function that is routinely carried out without fanfare (unless you're being potty-trained). You hopped on the mommy high-horse too quickly, and dropped your reading comprehension on the way.

Doing something that is done literally thousands of times every day around the globe, and has been happening this way for almost 200,000 years (modern humans)- it is not "impressive" or an "accomplishment".
Little Queenie wrote:
First of all, I've never given birth but I've witnessed plenty of live births as I'm preparing to have my own. Even before I was pregnant I at least recognized giving birth as being the most physically traumatic experience any person can go through that is a natural process of life. Just because it happens regularly doesn't make it less of an accomplishment. Many women can choose to not have children or to end their pregnancies and many do make that choice. Many women are also opting to have c-sections and many women still die from giving birth.

I think it's rather short sighted for you to tell women that having a child isn't an accomplishment and compare it to having a shit when you can't have a child.

But...

Little Queenie wrote:
Well lets just give em a mother fucking award. Your reproductive systems work! Hooray!!!

Jan 02 13 10:29 am  Link  Quote 
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Little Queenie
Posts: 6,213
Indio, California, US


Shon D.- Homme wrote:

Michael Kerrek wrote:
I didn't say "easy", or painless, or any number of other things that have your oh-my-god-someone-thinks-giving-birth-is-easy defensiveness all a-twitter.

I said "not noteworthy," and "not an accomplishment", and compared it to another biological function that is routinely carried out without fanfare (unless you're being potty-trained). You hopped on the mommy high-horse too quickly, and dropped your reading comprehension on the way.

Doing something that is done literally thousands of times every day around the globe, and has been happening this way for almost 200,000 years (modern humans)- it is not "impressive" or an "accomplishment".

But...

I was saying that in reference to te fact that this is going to be all we hear about for the next year. Just because getting pregnant and giving birth is an accomplishment doesn't mean it has to hear about it all the damn time.

Many women do it without it being national news.

Jan 02 13 10:54 am  Link  Quote 
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London Fog
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Wow so much web time devoted to Kimmy! Let me tell you now, it was a pleasure priming that fat ass for Daddy O!
Jan 02 13 11:32 am  Link  Quote 
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Nedah Oyin
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Small Fruit Pits wrote:
Is London Fog the father? big_smile

LMAOOO..!! I saw 'Kim Kardashian' and London Fog on the same thread and had to click, and here is Cherry heading me way off at the pass..

Jan 02 13 11:37 am  Link  Quote 
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Viral Photo
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Richmond, Virginia, US


The poor offspring.
Jan 02 13 11:51 am  Link  Quote 
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JochsBeauty
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Ann Arbor, Michigan, US


I feel sorry for those chairs she sits in.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/jessicca143/24428_10152396907305584_728203857_n.jpg
Jan 02 13 11:55 am  Link  Quote 
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Mike Kelcher
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Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Somebody actually had sex with her? Wow!  How can we be sure?  I didn't realize that a person drunk enough to do that could still "perform".  Could she have used a turkey baster?
Jan 02 13 12:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mike Kelcher wrote:
Somebody actually had sex with her? Wow!  How can we be sure?  I didn't realize that a person drunk enough to do that could still "perform".  Could she have used a turkey baster?

Post your pic and I'm sure MMer's could hold the same opinion of you.

You people are nuts.

Jan 02 13 12:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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-Nicole-
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Madison, Wisconsin, US


People are MAD.
Jan 02 13 12:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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T
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-Nicole- wrote:
People are MAD.

I know and it's like WHAT THE FUCK??? get a life.

Jan 02 13 12:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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London Fog
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London, England, United Kingdom


T wrote:

I know and it's like WHAT THE FUCK??? get a life.

Hey, chill out, it's just a bit of fun!

Just wait for another 7-8 months from now, that's when the fun will really start!

Jan 02 13 12:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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London Fog
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-Nicole- wrote:
People are MAD.

We are, completely, totally fucking insane! Wouldn't anyone be after having to watch reality TV as it is now?

Jan 02 13 12:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mike Kelcher
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T wrote:

Post your pic and I'm sure MMer's could hold the same opinion of you.

You people are nuts.

...and they would be entitled to their opinion, regardless of what it is. That doesn't make anyone nuts and "you people" should know that.

Oh...the father is Kanye West...well....that explains it. I suppose he didn't have to be drunk. After calling the POTUS a racist on national TV, it's obvious that he lacks good judgement....even if he can follow a $40 million trail of money to a porn star named Kim.

Jan 02 13 12:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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-Nicole-
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London Fog wrote:

We are, completely, totally fucking insane! Wouldn't anyone be after having to watch reality TV as it is now?

There's your problem wink

That child will be beautiful (lets face it, the Kardashian/Jenner clan has amazing genes) and will never want for anything.

Regardless of Kims ass size, I'm sure she'll be a great mother.

Jan 02 13 12:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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London Fog wrote:

Hey, chill out, it's just a bit of fun!

Just wait for another 7-8 months from now, that's when the fun will really start!

You telling me to chill? Dude, I don't care about Kim, Kanye or you. Trust me...I'm chilled.

Jan 02 13 12:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mike Kelcher wrote:

...and they would be entitled to their opinion, regardless of what it is. That doesn't make anyone nuts and "you people" should know that.

Oh...the father is Kanye West...well....that explains it. I suppose he didn't have to be drunk. After calling the POTUS a racist on national TV, it's obvious that he lacks good judgement....even if he can follow a $40 million trail of money to a porn star named Kim.

And you're a birther! Your opinion doesn't hold much weight with me. Sorry Charlie!

Jan 02 13 12:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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Shon D.- Homme
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Virginia Beach, Virginia, US


Mike Kelcher wrote:

...and they would be entitled to their opinion, regardless of what it is. That doesn't make anyone nuts and "you people" should know that.

Oh...the father is Kanye West...well....that explains it. I suppose he didn't have to be drunk. After calling the POTUS a racist on national TV, it's obvious that he lacks good judgement....even if he can follow a $40 million trail of money to a porn star named Kim.

Fuck Bush, though. Kanye was right.

Jan 02 13 12:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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Anna Adrielle
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Mike Kelcher wrote:

...and they would be entitled to their opinion, regardless of what it is. That doesn't make anyone nuts and "you people" should know that.

Oh...the father is Kanye West...well....that explains it. I suppose he didn't have to be drunk. After calling the POTUS a racist on national TV, it's obvious that he lacks good judgement....even if he can follow a $40 million trail of money to a porn star named Kim.

you're trying to jump on the bashingtrain by being all cool and "eww someone had sex with her??"... dude, she got famous by a sextape. I' sure literally thousands of men all over the world would gladly have sex with her. It's not like she's unattractive...

Jan 02 13 12:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paige Morgan
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While I find Kim K.'s public persona/general "Famous for being famous" deal annoying, she is a pretty woman. I don't get the hail of hate being launched on her looks.
Jan 02 13 12:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mike Kelcher
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Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Shon D.- Homme wrote:

Fuck Bush, though. Kanye was right.

Even Kanye didn't think he was right after he thought about it, which is why he later apologized.

Jan 02 13 12:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mike Kelcher
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Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Anna Adrielle wrote:
you're trying to jump on the bashingtrain by being all cool and "eww someone had sex with her??"... dude, she got famous by a sextape. I' sure literally thousands of men all over the world would gladly have sex with her. It's not like she's unattractive...

I never said she was unattractive or lacked fame. Thousands of men gladly have sex with camels annually. That doesn't make camels awesome, or unattractive.

Jan 02 13 12:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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London Fog
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-Nicole- wrote:

That child will be beautiful (lets face it, the Kardashian/Jenner clan has amazing genes) and will never want for anything

Hahahahahahahahahaha.....joke of the year, and only Jan 2nd!

Jan 02 13 12:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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DarcieK
Posts: 10,872
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada


Congrats to them.

I feel bad for Khloe though. She's been trying for years to have a baby with no luck.

Oh, and yes, Kim is still married, but not because she wants to be, it's because her ex-husband has too much pride to admit that the marriage wasn't a fraud.
Jan 02 13 01:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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Cynthia Serrano
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Newark, New Jersey, US


DougBPhoto wrote:
Congratulations, that is really great for her...


I'm a gonna let you finish, but Beyonce had one of the best pregnancies of all time!!!

Lmao!! This thread is hilarious but I still don't care about her, kanye or her baby lol

Jan 02 13 01:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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Anna Adrielle
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DarcieK wrote:
Congrats to them.

I feel bad for Khloe though. She's been trying for years to have a baby with no luck.

oh yeah that's right, didn't even think about that... must be hard when your sisters have kids and you really want to get pregnant but can't sad

Jan 02 13 02:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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Egypt Jordan
Posts: 82
San Antonio, Texas, US


I like Kim when she shuts up and models= AMAZING PICTURES

But anyways...

I don't understand how she "tired" for so long, with the men she has been with in her past, but Kanye and plant one in it with no problem.

I feel bad for Khloe, she deserves and baby more than Kim does.
Jan 02 13 03:39 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jason Haven
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Washington, District of Columbia, US


T wrote:

Post your pic and I'm sure MMer's could hold the same opinion of you.

You people are nuts.

I've always loved internet opinions.

Personality aside, I'd hit that in a heart beat.

Now, if she were annoying enough, and I was given the chance, I might pass because I don't feel like dealing with nonsense. But that's a totally different story. big_smile

Jan 02 13 03:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mike Kelcher
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Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


ASYLUM - Photo wrote:

I've always loved internet opinions.

Personality aside, I'd hit that in a heart beat.

Now, if she were annoying enough, and I was given the chance, I might pass because I don't feel like dealing with nonsense. But that's a totally different story. big_smile

It would not concern you that she happens to be married?

I'd never mess with another man's wife, even if they are separated and even if she's worth $40 million. Vows and promises mean something to me. To some, my values might seem strange because she's famous and worth so much, but I won't mess with another man's wife....just out of principle.

Jan 02 13 06:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mike Kelcher
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nevermind.
Jan 02 13 06:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Koryn
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Asheville, North Carolina, US


Paige Morgan wrote:
I don't get the hail of hate being launched on her looks.

It's kind of sad actually, because my lower-half measurements are pretty similar to hers. I just have a big booty, but don't have any titties to balance it out. I also avoid wearing clothing that shows off my bottom, or fits snugly on my butt, so no one really notices much, unless I'm in leggings or swimwear. And then, people ask me constantly if I have butt implants.

Ultimately, when people talk shit about Kim Kardashian's body, it's a little bit insulting. Kids in middle school fucking TORTURED me over the fact I had a big ass; that was back in the days when Dean Johnson was the "it girl," and you never saw a pear-shaped woman in the media, outside of rap music videos.

It just goes to show that, no matter how people claim to love and "embrace" women with bigger bottoms, it's all a bunch of bullshit. For the most part, the only thing that's *really* considered acceptable to a huge number of people -at least in the US- is a tiny little body, with disproportionately large boobs. God forbid someone be slim with a big butt!!! It might cause the world to explode.

I used to want to believe that people were starting to be more open-minded about body-type diversity, and finding a variety of shapes acceptable and beautiful. Not so sure anymore.

Jan 02 13 06:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Shon D.- Homme
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Virginia Beach, Virginia, US


Mike Kelcher wrote:

Even Kanye didn't think he was right after he thought about it, which is why he later apologized.

He apologized and yet you're still pressed about it? Tell mama what the problem is, sweetie... I'm here.

Jan 02 13 06:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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Shon D.- Homme
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Virginia Beach, Virginia, US


ShivaKitty wrote:
It's kind of sad actually, because my lower-half measurements are pretty similar to hers. I just have a big booty, but don't have any titties to balance it out. I also avoid wearing clothing that shows off my bottom, or fits snugly on my butt, so no one really notices much, unless I'm in leggings or swimwear. And then, people ask me constantly if I have butt implants.

Ultimately, when people talk shit about Kim Kardashian's body, it's a little bit insulting. Kids in middle school fucking TORTURED me over the fact I had a big ass; that was back in the days when Dean Johnson was the "it girl," and you never saw a pear-shaped woman in the media, outside of rap music videos.

It just goes to show that, no matter how people claim to love and "embrace" women with bigger bottoms, it's all a bunch of bullshit. For the most part, the only thing that's *really* considered acceptable to a huge number of people -at least in the US- is a tiny little body, with disproportionately large boobs. God forbid someone be slim with a big butt!!! It might cause the world to explode.

I used to want to believe that people were starting to be more open-minded about body-type diversity, and finding a variety of shapes acceptable and beautiful. Not so sure anymore.

Right, there's this big presumption that EVERYONE finds big butts unattractive. NOT SO.

Jan 02 13 06:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paige Morgan
Posts: 4,058
New York, New York, US


ShivaKitty wrote:
It's kind of sad actually, because my lower-half measurements are pretty similar to hers. I just have a big booty, but don't have any titties to balance it out. I also avoid wearing clothing that shows off my bottom, or fits snugly on my butt, so no one really notices much, unless I'm in leggings or swimwear. And then, people ask me constantly if I have butt implants.

Ultimately, when people talk shit about Kim Kardashian's body, it's a little bit insulting. Kids in middle school fucking TORTURED me over the fact I had a big ass; that was back in the days when Dean Johnson was the "it girl," and you never saw a pear-shaped woman in the media, outside of rap music videos.

It just goes to show that, no matter how people claim to love and "embrace" women with bigger bottoms, it's all a bunch of bullshit. For the most part, the only thing that's *really* considered acceptable to a huge number of people -at least in the US- is a tiny little body, with disproportionately large boobs. God forbid someone be slim with a big butt!!! It might cause the world to explode.

I used to want to believe that people were starting to be more open-minded about body-type diversity, and finding a variety of shapes acceptable and beautiful. Not so sure anymore.

It's odd you mention this. I also have epic hips/butt (40") but have just enough cleavage to almost balance it out (still pear shaped).

It is the one thing I didn't get made fun of for. For a boyish/angular face, my mops of unruly curls or my extreme paleness, sure.

But never for the hip/waist ratio.


The only thing that used to bother me was that as a teenager was that the slimmer women would get the "That's my wife!" catcalls, but when myself or another curvier woman walked down the street, it was always something far more explicitly sexual.


The inherent sexualization of a curvier frame and the cultural assumptions that came with it bothered me, and sometimes still do.

(Perhaps this is the source of my long standing habit of preferring to bare only small amounts of skin in day to day life. A slender woman in a crop top and cutoffs is beach ready and cute......me in a slightly above the knee sundress and heels is "slutty" if random passers by are to be believed)

It's almost a weird offshoot of the Madonna/whore complex....the Audrey Hepburn vs. Marilyn Monroe corollary LOL

Jan 02 13 06:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paige Morgan wrote:
A slender woman in a crop top and cutoffs is beach ready and cute......me in a slightly above the knee sundress and heels is "slutty" if random passers by are to be believed)

I work at a gym now, and it was strongly *suggested* that I wear those tight exercise pants that go to the mid-calf. I don't know what they're called, but it's a certain cut of pants that are popular right now. I normally wear very loose-fitting sweats with a fitted top.

The one day that I actually tried wearing a pair of the suggested pants, not only did my ass bounce up and down uncomfortably when I was climbing stairs, but it just didn't look... professional.

The other female trainers can wear those tight pants and look okay in them. I looked like I was about to shoot a porn movie that happened to be set in a fitness facility. Not cool.

Jan 02 13 07:04 pm  Link  Quote 
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WR Photographics
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Mike Kelcher wrote:
Somebody actually had sex with her? Wow!  How can we be sure?  I didn't realize that a person drunk enough to do that could still "perform".  Could she have used a turkey baster?

That was my thought. If Kardashian can get pregnant, it's just proof that people will have sex with goats.

Jan 02 13 07:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paige Morgan
Posts: 4,058
New York, New York, US


ShivaKitty wrote:

I work at a gym now, and it was strongly *suggested* that I wear those tight exercise pants that go to the mid-calf. I don't know what they're called, but it's a certain cut of pants that are popular right now. I normally wear very loose-fitting sweats with a fitted top.

The one day that I actually tried wearing a pair of the suggested pants, not only did my ass bounce up and down uncomfortably when I was climbing stairs, but it just didn't look... professional.

The other female trainers can wear those tight pants and look okay in them. I looked like I was about to shoot a porn movie that happened to be set in a fitness facility. Not cool.

I never wear shorts/short pants for this reason. Considering I'm also short torsoed, it's just a bad look all the way around. Insta smutty and 10 lbs heavier visually all in one go. big_smile

Jan 02 13 07:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Garry k
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Shon D.- Homme wrote:

Fuck Bush, though. Kanye was right.

No ...

Obama was right about Kanye

Jan 02 13 08:15 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mike Kelcher
Posts: 12,711
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Mike Kelcher wrote:
(edit...about Kanye West).... After calling the POTUS a racist on national TV, it's obvious that he lacks good judgement.
Shon D.- Homme wrote:
Fuck Bush, though. Kanye was right.
Mike Kelcher wrote:
Even Kanye didn't think he was right after he thought about it, which is why he later apologized.
Shon D.- Homme wrote:
He apologized and yet you're still pressed about it? Tell mama what the problem is, sweetie... I'm here.

Well mamma, it's like this. Kanye West lacks good judgement and he admits it. Neither he, Kim, nor you concern me enough to have me "pressed" about anything.

Jan 02 13 09:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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Cherrystone
Posts: 35,965
Columbus, Ohio, US


Nedah Oyin wrote:

LMAOOO..!! I saw 'Kim Kardashian' and London Fog on the same thread and had to click, and here is Cherry heading me way off at the pass..

big_smile

Jan 02 13 09:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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T
Posts: 53,547
Washington, District of Columbia, US


Mike Kelcher wrote:

Mike Kelcher wrote:
(edit...about Kanye West).... After calling the POTUS a racist on national TV, it's obvious that he lacks good judgement.
Shon D.- Homme wrote:
Fuck Bush, though. Kanye was right.
Mike Kelcher wrote:
Even Kanye didn't think he was right after he thought about it, which is why he later apologized.

Well mamma, it's like this. Kanye West lacks good judgement and he admits it. Neither he, Kim, nor you concern me enough to have me "pressed" about anything.

So do you but at least Kanye admits it. wink

Jan 02 13 09:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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