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Blue Cube Imaging
Posts: 11,138
Ashland, Oregon, US


With CES (with PMA included) starting this week what are your hopes and predictions for new camera and photo gear announcements?

Me, I'm hoping for Olympus to introduce a pro version (rangefinder style) of a micro 4/3 camera.
Jan 05 13 10:30 am  Link  Quote 
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Motordrive Photography
Posts: 2,347
Lodi, California, US


Constant disappointment, but I still have a flicker of hope that Nikon
will replace D300s. With all the well deserved headline grabbing intros
of last two years, there is still a hole in the Nikon lineup.
Jan 05 13 10:42 am  Link  Quote 
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DougBPhoto
Posts: 37,564
Portland, Oregon, US


Motordrive Photography wrote:
Constant disappointment, but I still have a flicker of hope that Nikon
will replace D300s. With all the well deserved headline grabbing intros
of last two years, there is still a hole in the Nikon lineup.

As I'm finally thinking I'm gonna get a D800, this would be the perfect time for Nikon to release that D300s replacement, just to make matters more difficult for me.

I have given up trying to predict what Nikon will do, as it seems like they make a specific effort to do things that make so little sense and deliver products that still leave customers with "I wish it would" aspects.

Whether it is their Nikon 1 series lacking wired remote/wired release capabilities or their more professional products having ridiculously priced half-assed wifi solutions and a pathetic "user mode" plan.

I agree, I'm sure that whatever they do, it will bring disappointment.

Jan 05 13 10:53 am  Link  Quote 
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Good Egg Productions
Posts: 15,105
Orlando, Florida, US


How about a line of vertical grips with built in WiFi.

I do not understand why it's taking so long to put WiFi into these cameras.  Wireless "tethering" would be a huge deal.

And please don't make them $500.
Jan 05 13 10:54 am  Link  Quote 
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JPV_IMAGES
Posts: 388
Norwich, England, United Kingdom


A full frame 50-150 f2.8 Canon EF fit.
Jan 05 13 11:11 am  Link  Quote 
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SayCheeZ!
Posts: 17,734
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


PMA used to be the annual event where new photo products are announced.  Sure, some new photo product announcements also came during CES but the majority of it was during PMA.

Now that PMA has been absorbed by CES, it's gone from an event that filled a large convention hall into a couple of hard-to-find ballrooms in a hotel.  Last year very few major photo companies appeared at CES/PMA.  The few that did (ie: Kodak and Canon) were the ones that typically showed up at both events anyway.

With that said, I don't think we're going to see many new pertinent photo product announcements.

I would however love to see a fully manual digital camera similar to the Pentax K-1000 or YashicaMat 124G that many of us learned the craft on.  To this day it's quicker and easier for me to do the old fashioned "match needle" metering approach to achieve the effect I want.

I doubt my wish will ever come true.
And yes, I know that Pentax came out with a 'digital' version of the K-1000 already... but it's really nothing like the original film type of camera that I remember.
Jan 05 13 02:35 pm  Link  Quote 
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Robb Mann
Posts: 10,006
Baltimore, Maryland, US


Id love to see Nikon refresh their Tilt/Shift lens lineup. Its one area they are pretty far behind the competition in. They really need a 17mm lens, and desperately need to upgrade to a super-rotator type design.
Jan 05 13 07:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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fullmetalphotographer
Posts: 2,679
Fresno, California, US


The Nikon D4s should be coming soon. I am hoping for a new GraphFlex soon. wink
Jan 06 13 11:06 am  Link  Quote 
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Robb Mann
Posts: 10,006
Baltimore, Maryland, US


Im going to guess that the rumored Nikon 1 S1 will be an ultra compact body, since the Coolpix S1 is too, and the 1 shpuld be the smallest body out there.

Ill say wifi-enabled built in for smartphone compatibility. No interchangeable battery, No memory slot, but built-in 8 gig SD card. 10.1mp CX sensor, electronic shutter only. Built-in LED flash.
Jan 06 13 09:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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Robb Mann
Posts: 10,006
Baltimore, Maryland, US


Double post.
Jan 06 13 09:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Shot By Adam
Posts: 5,549
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


SayCheeZ!  wrote:
Now that PMA has been absorbed by CES, it's gone from an event that filled a large convention hall into a couple of hard-to-find ballrooms in a hotel.  Last year very few major photo companies appeared at CES/PMA.  The few that did (ie: Kodak and Canon) were the ones that typically showed up at both events anyway.

Certain industries' trade shows go the way of the dodo this way. If you've lived here in Vegas long enough you'd remember COMDEX. It was, by far, the largest trade show in the world. COMDEX used to bring upwards of 300,000 people into Vegas for the five day event. Hotel rooms would sell for $800/night at Caesars and were booked 2 years in advance. Every conference room in every hotel was booked solid for companies who didn't have a chance to get a booth on the show floor which encompassed the entire Las Vegas Convention Center and the Sands Expo center. It was just insane.

But then this weird thing called the "Internet" came around, plus a few major computer magazines that were 1/2" thick every month. There was so much news and information on everything about the computer industry, some of the companies who showed up for the show started thinking that all their press releases and new product updates were being announced all the time and people were able to get this news on a moment's notice, so what is the point of paying $1 million for a booth at the show? Not long thereafter, Intel, Apple, IBM and Creative Labs all decided to not do the event one year. The next year a hoard of major industry leaded decided not to show. The year after that the company that ran COMDEX went dead and that was the end of that.

So with forums and websites and mainstream media all doing the PR for all the camera companies, what's the point of spending an outrageous amount of money and resources to go do the show? And thus ends the era of PMA.

Jan 06 13 10:20 pm  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,524
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


anyone wish for a terabyte flash drive?
well your dreams have come true. Kingston just announced one.

http://techgage.com/news/ces-2013-kings … b-yes-1tb/
Jan 07 13 12:35 pm  Link  Quote 
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AJScalzitti
Posts: 12,249
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Shot By Adam wrote:

Certain industries' trade shows go the way of the dodo this way. If you've lived here in Vegas long enough you'd remember COMDEX. It was, by far, the largest trade show in the world. COMDEX used to bring upwards of 300,000 people into Vegas for the five day event. Hotel rooms would sell for $800/night at Caesars and were booked 2 years in advance. Every conference room in every hotel was booked solid for companies who didn't have a chance to get a booth on the show floor which encompassed the entire Las Vegas Convention Center and the Sands Expo center. It was just insane.

But then this weird thing called the "Internet" came around, plus a few major computer magazines that were 1/2" thick every month. There was so much news and information on everything about the computer industry, some of the companies who showed up for the show started thinking that all their press releases and new product updates were being announced all the time and people were able to get this news on a moment's notice, so what is the point of paying $1 million for a booth at the show? Not long thereafter, Intel, Apple, IBM and Creative Labs all decided to not do the event one year. The next year a hoard of major industry leaded decided not to show. The year after that the company that ran COMDEX went dead and that was the end of that.

So with forums and websites and mainstream media all doing the PR for all the camera companies, what's the point of spending an outrageous amount of money and resources to go do the show? And thus ends the era of PMA.

I worked COMDEX for Microsoft back in the day, it was a massive event but saddle trade shows don't do well at keeping pace with computer technology.  Cameras are much slower to change so expect them to hang on for a bit longer...

Jan 07 13 12:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Robb Mann
Posts: 10,006
Baltimore, Maryland, US


Looks like not much Nikon news. Just a release of previously announced stuff.

The Nikon S1 appears to be nearly identical to the J2.  The 6-14 CX lens looks like a sweet piece of glass, but ouch the price! D5200 finally coming stateside.

Hopefully more surprise announcements.
Jan 08 13 01:44 am  Link  Quote 
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Blue Cube Imaging
Posts: 11,138
Ashland, Oregon, US


Pretty disappointing so far...  sad
Jan 08 13 07:21 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jose Deida
Posts: 1,131
BLANDON, Pennsylvania, US


A 20MP MF full frame 6x7 digital back for 3k and $30.00 adapter plates big_smile
Jan 08 13 07:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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SayCheeZ!
Posts: 17,734
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Blue Cube Imaging wrote:
Pretty disappointing so far...  sad

Last year most of the camera companies made their biggest announcements in the second quarter.  PMA typically was held toward the end of the first quarter or the beginning of the second quarter (before it merged with CES).

I haven't been to the show today, and I'm not sure if I'm even interested enough in going at all because last year I heartfully thought that it wasn't worth my time.

With that said WPPI is much more geared toward the MM demographic and I'll be sure to attend that.  Hell, even Photoshop World held in September at Mandalay Bay seems to be more interesting than the current PMA.

Jan 08 13 10:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GER Photography
Posts: 7,536
Imperial, California, US


A Pentax D67!!!!!
Jan 08 13 10:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Brooklyn Bridge Images
Posts: 9,123
Brooklyn, New York, US


I have a camera
Why would I need a new one ??
http://www.boingboing.net/assets_mt/2010/11/22/tumblr_lavfeaNy181qzvu53o1_r1_500.gif
Jan 08 13 10:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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SayCheeZ!
Posts: 17,734
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


I made it over to CES/PMA this morning.
For the most part it really wasn't worth the effort.

Canon, Pentax, Sony, Nikon, and Fuji all had their booths in the main (center) hall.

Sony's booth had stuff from every division on display and was probably about the size of a football field.  A screen wrapped around the oval shaped booth and provided a first person view of a car racing game.  It really felt as if you were in the cockpit!

Canon mainly displayed their new printers, which are thinner and more sleek designs of the previous models.  They also had the Canon M and Cinema EOS on display.

Pentax had everything from Medium Format to pocket size mirrorless removable lens cameras.  They can be made in any custom color that you want.  Really cool little product.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/602669_10151188927622536_498076753_n.jpg
Pentax Medium Format DSLRs on display

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/734130_10151188927732536_2018559159_n.jpg
Small mirrorless cameras are available in any custom color combination


Olympus had a small conference room on the Mezzanine level of the convention center.  They may have had something on the main show floor too, but I didn't see it. 

I got to play with the OM-D, and they also showed a battery grip for it ($399) and an unusual "lens cap" lens ($50) which as the name implies, was a lens built into a lens cap, similar to but smaller than 'pancake lenses' that you may find for other cameras.




The actual PMA section was held in a ballroom at the LVH (formerly the Las Vegas Hilton).  The PMA used to FILL the south hall of the Convention Center, which by itself is still larger than most convention centers in other cities.  Now it's even smaller than it was last year, just a few rows of small booths mostly consisting of cheap accessory manufacturers from China

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/226786_10151188928242536_550348554_n.jpg
yeah, in this photo you literally can see about 1/3rd of the complete PMA show

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/3775_10151188928397536_557557482_n.jpg
you might have better luck at any of these PMA related events
Jan 11 13 03:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12,113
Tampa, Florida, US


I'm just hoping for a wider variety of porn stars in attendance. They make product announcements there too?
Jan 11 13 03:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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SayCheeZ!
Posts: 17,734
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Michael Pandolfo wrote:
I'm just hoping for a wider variety of porn stars in attendance. They make product announcements there too?

That's the other thing that used to make the convention a lot of fun... they'd have hot looking girls in micro mini skirts or short shorts at practically every booth.  Now it's basically old grey haired guys like me that are demonstrating the products and answering questions.

CES hasn't been affiliated with the porn industry for at least a decade.  When CES severed ties with the porn industry, Adult Video News (AVN) held a seperate convention AT THE SAME TIME as CES, so many people still associate the two different entities as being one.

This year will be the second year that the AVN convention will be held AFTER the CES show.  The AVN is next week.

Jan 11 13 03:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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Raoul Isidro Images
Posts: 5,974
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


A FULL FRAME 35mm digital compact.

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Olympus-mju-II.jpg

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Jan 11 13 03:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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Robb Mann
Posts: 10,006
Baltimore, Maryland, US


Blue Cube Imaging wrote:
Pretty disappointing so far...  sad

Yep. Biggest news seems to be about how crappy the launch/naming/concept of the new Polaroid Android phone/camera is.

Jan 12 13 05:54 am  Link  Quote 
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