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CDP Photo
Posts: 2,095
Brooklyn, New York, US


Viktorija Sketika wrote:
I'm new here, and just wondering did the photographers are able to read profile of models.
After I get posted in MM I got invited to fiends or shots as nude!!! (tons of invites)
As far  I have seen only some nude shots are tasteful, but the tons of them are cheap.
Its in my profile no nude?
Please shear some ideas.
Models, how u surviving thru this?

Only shoot nude with me. It's OK because I am like a doctor, (I'm not a doctor but I'm LIKE a doctor), very tactful, very gentle, very respectful and business like but humorous and fun.

Jan 07 13 02:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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CDP Photo
Posts: 2,095
Brooklyn, New York, US


Creative Image wrote:
Has anyone here that has been making fun of her ever lived in a country that does not have English as a native language?  I have.  Germany.  And no one EVER made fun of me other than maybe a chuckle from someone I knew well.  On the contrary, people were always helpful, correcting me in very gentle ways.

But that's this forum: not pictures or it didn't happen, but English or you're stupid. 

Thanks to those who really helped her.

I'm fine in Italy but silly stupid in France, but everyone there has always been nice.

Jan 07 13 02:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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1873 Images
Posts: 355
Binghamton, New York, US


Viktorija Sketika wrote:
I'm fluent in my mother language Latvian,  I am fluent in Russian to,
I'm sorry about my English, its My 2 y in North America, but hopefully, the message was clear, and THKS.  For some advices already.

We americans are really a bunch of jerks when it comes to other languages.  Wish I'd taken the time to learn another one, but at 50+ I think it's too late for me and reminds of this.

http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/00000/0000/700/727/727.strip.gif

Jan 07 13 03:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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hbutz New York
Posts: 3,206
Ronkonkoma, New York, US


Nowhere, other than on Model Mayhem, do people become so offended at being offered a job that they need to vent their issues on a public forum.
Jan 07 13 03:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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Fotografica Gregor
Posts: 4,107
Alexandria, Virginia, US


it is the "fresh meat" syndrome I'm afraid

because you are new, some hope that you may be gullible - or at least pliable -

any new model here gets a bit of that -


set your limits and stick to them and you will be fine

once you wade through some of the muck,  this is a decent enough place to network.....
Jan 07 13 03:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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salvatori.
Posts: 3,804
State College, Pennsylvania, US


oops.
Jan 07 13 03:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jackson frontier photos
Posts: 531
Joplin, Missouri, US


Viktorija Sketika wrote:
I'm new here, and just wondering did the photographers are able to read profile of llamas.
After I get posted in MM I got invited to fiends or shots as nude!!! (tons of invites)
As far  I have seen only some nude shots are tasteful, but the tons of them are cheap.
Its in my profile no nude?
Please shear some ideas.
Models, how u surviving thru this?

They say no or don't respond I suspect.

Jan 07 13 04:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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SPRINGHEEL
Posts: 38,192
Gibraltar, Michigan, US


Viktorija Sketika wrote:
I'm new here, and just wondering did the photographers are able to read profile of models.
After I get posted in MM I got invited to fiends or shots as nude!!! (tons of invites)
As far  I have seen only some nude shots are tasteful, but the tons of them are cheap.
Its in my profile no nude?
Please shear some ideas.
Models, how u surviving thru this?

That's beautiful

Jan 07 13 04:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Caveman Creations
Posts: 580
Fort Worth, Texas, US


1873 Images wrote:

We americans are really a bunch of jerks when it comes to other languages.  Wish I'd taken the time to learn another one, but at 50+ I think it's too late for me and reminds of this.

http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/00000/0000/700/727/727.strip.gif

We really are, aren't we!? I must confess, when I first read the headline, what others have said is exactly what I was thinking. "Don't talk to me about reading, until you can write!" But then I stopped a second and saw that she is in Toronto. Then, after reading her profile, I get it. And I commend you OP.

Even for broken English, you got your point across well, and have received some sound advice. What "Moving Pictures" has written for you, is better worded. change that and it will help......some. wink I really am an arrogant bastard......... Now, I have to ask myself if I still believe the French are rude......big_smile

Jan 07 13 05:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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Viktorija Sketika
Posts: 19
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada


Not only what I wrote before,  new its starting came spams. or look like spams in my inbox. But I can handle with this:)
So many opportunities, to check people just using Google FB etc...
Like somebody say Fresh meet syndrome.
THKS folks
Jan 07 13 05:39 pm  Link  Quote 
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Damianne
Posts: 15,975
Austin, Texas, US


Luckily there aren't a ton of nude photographers in Edmonton.

PM this guy and ask him how to join the Edmonton facebook group, that's probably going to be your main source of booking for the area.
Jan 07 13 06:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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291
Posts: 11,911
SEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK, California, US


Viktorija Sketika wrote:
I'm new here, and just wondering did the photographers are able to read profile of models.
After I get posted in MM I got invited to fiends or shots as nude!!! (tons of invites)
As far  I have seen only some nude shots are tasteful, but the tons of them are cheap.
Its in my profile no nude?
Please shear some ideas.
Models, how u surviving thru this?

SPRINGHEEL  wrote:
That's beautiful

and wronkled.

Jan 07 13 07:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of the nude
Posts: 11,868
Olivet, Michigan, US


Viktorija Sketika wrote:
I'm new here, and just wondering did the photographers are able to read profile of models.
After I get posted in MM I got invited to fiends or shots as nude!!! (tons of invites)
As far  I have seen only some nude shots are tasteful, but the tons of them are cheap.
Its in my profile no nude?
Please shear some ideas.
Models, how u surviving thru this?

Last time I counted, I had EIGHT nude images of models who said "no nudes" in their profile included in my portfolio.  In several cases, I didn't find out we were doing nudes until they announced it at the shoot.  Other times, they readily agreed, or suggested it.  Profiles are often far from the truth.

Jan 07 13 09:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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ontherocks
Posts: 22,427
Salem, Oregon, US


dudette, chill. she's from latvia. i'm guessing english isn't her first language. it wasn't pretty but i understood. apparently some models quit mayhem straight away because they get so many offers for nudes (and beyond).

Becks wrote:
Do the models can write? wink

Jan 07 13 09:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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ontherocks
Posts: 22,427
Salem, Oregon, US


some models will sometimes do more than what they say in their profile so don't be surprised if photographers ask. ignore them or just say "no thanks". if they get mean about it then report them to a moderator:
http://www.ripoffreport.com

have fun and stay safe!
Jan 07 13 09:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of the nude
Posts: 11,868
Olivet, Michigan, US


Francisco Castro wrote:
She's from Latvia. English obviously isn't her mother language so I would cut her some slack.

Grammar aside, she does have a point. I have had too many model (who clearly state in clear English that they don't shoot nudes) friends who start out who complained of the same thing. It's like a swarm of piranhas chomping at fresh meat.

I'm planning a nude shoot right now with a model whose profile says "NO NUDES, DON'T EVEN ASK."  She's fine with us shooting nudes.  Had things half way planned on FB before I saw her MM, or it might not have happened. 

As I said above, plenty of models who say "no nudes" in their profile will agree, or even ASK to shoot nudes.  Hell, I know of a couple traveling nude models whose profile says "no" to nudes.  One girl's profile has "No" checked, and the text says she'll only shoot "up to Playboy style."

Jan 07 13 09:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of the nude
Posts: 11,868
Olivet, Michigan, US


Caveman Creations wrote:
We really are, aren't we!? I must confess, when I first read the headline, what others have said is exactly what I was thinking. "Don't talk to me about reading, until you can write!" But then I stopped a second and saw that she is in Toronto. Then, after reading her profile, I get it. And I commend you OP.

Even for broken English, you got your point across well, and have received some sound advice. What "Moving Pictures" has written for you, is better worded. change that and it will help......some. wink I really am an arrogant bastard......... Now, I have to ask myself if I still believe the French are rude......big_smile

Something about her grammar said "ESL" to me, rather than "illiterate."

By the way "Edmonton" is a long, long, ways from "Toronto."

Jan 07 13 09:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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all_names_are_taken
Posts: 337
Ankeny, Iowa, US


Ignoring a message: super, super easy.  I don't even know why you'd bother blocking someone.  How difficult is it, really, to ignore some text on the internet?

Granted, I do shoot nudes, so I have a "whatever" approach to stuff anyway.
Jan 07 13 09:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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-JAY-
Posts: 6,580
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Viktorija Sketika wrote:
Its in my profile no nude?

95% or more of my nude shoots are with models who have "Nudes: No" selected. I just ask those who I feel have the right look.

Jan 07 13 09:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kayz-Modelling
Posts: 294
Plymouth, England, United Kingdom


Pixie Flitzy wrote:
Even though many models say on their profiles that they will not do nudes, they still do with photographers of their choosing. Simply tell the photographers that you are not interested. It is not a big deal that they ask you.

+1
There are a few options you can take:
1) Politely decline their offer, explaining you don't shoot nudes. (What I would personally do.)
2) Completely ignore the offer and move on with your day. (Not my choice, but others may say the easiest)
3) Read the offer, get pissed off that they're not reading your entire profile and you're getting offers you don't want to take then have a bad day because you're in a foul mood... (completely pointless and doesn't end well for anyone.)

As Pixie said, they're asking because a lot of models who state they don't shoot nude in fact do but only with a few photographers and they don't know if you're one of them or not.
There's no harm in asking. Don't get mad about it, that's an utter waste of time, just move on and accept jobs that you want to do.

Kayz

edit:-
If they start getting angry/nasty/abusive about you declining their offer then do what Twoharts suggested and CAM them.

Jan 08 13 03:38 am  Link  Quote 
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Fashion and Flesh
Posts: 37
CARDIFF BY THE SEA, California, US


The spiritism of the model and the photographer determines the nuture and nakiness of the shoot. As a spiritual purson, I fine that wobegone philopsoslies get me a lot of nude agreements and sesitude, expresiors which much belongs most often in chyrches and wholly places.
Jan 08 13 03:42 am  Link  Quote 
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RKD Photographic
Posts: 3,265
Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany


A lot of models say they don't shoot nudes but have 'art' listed as one of their shooting-areas. This is where confusion can arise.

To many, 'art' is shorthand for 'art-nude' (and as all photography is subjectively 'art' what else would it mean in a model profile?), so people ask.

Also many models say they don't shoot nudes to simply weed out the creeps.
I too have shot nudes with models who state they do not on their profile - usually as a second booking once trust/rapport has been established.
Jan 08 13 04:50 am  Link  Quote 
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RKD Photographic
Posts: 3,265
Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany


Fashion and Flash wrote:
The spiritism of the model and the photographer determines the nuture and nakiness of the shoot. As a spiritual purson, I fine that wobegone philopsoslies get me a lot of nude agreements and sesitude, expresiors which much belongs most often in chyrches and wholly places.

What?

Spiritism?
Nakiness?
Puson?
Wobegone?
Philopsoslies?
Sesitude?
Expresiors?
Chyrches?

Ok we make fun of people not having English as a first language, but even Google translate does better than this...


*edit* please forgive me - my irony-meter is switched off at the moment due to my 2-year old forcing me to watch yet another DVD of Mickey-Mouse's Clubhouse with her...my brain is literally melting...

Jan 08 13 04:52 am  Link  Quote 
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SPRINGHEEL
Posts: 38,192
Gibraltar, Michigan, US


Fashion and Flash wrote:
The spiritism of the model and the photographer determines the nuture and nakiness of the shoot. As a spiritual purson, I fine that wobegone philopsoslies get me a lot of nude agreements and sesitude, expresiors which much belongs most often in chyrches and wholly places.

Just perfect

Jan 08 13 06:31 am  Link  Quote 
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salvatori.
Posts: 3,804
State College, Pennsylvania, US


Fashion and Flash wrote:
The spiritism of the llama and the photographer determines the nuture and nakiness of the shoot. As a spiritual purson, I fine that wobegone philopsoslies get me a lot of nude agreements and sesitude, expresiors which much belongs most often in chyrches and wholly places.

If you didn't read through the thread and are not aware that English isn't the OP's first language, maybe you should edit this.

If you did read through the thread and made this post anyway, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Jan 08 13 06:52 am  Link  Quote 
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Hugh Alison
Posts: 2,112
Aberystwyth, Wales, United Kingdom


Francisco Castro wrote:

She's from Latvia. English obviously isn't her mother language so I would cut her some slack...

Much like we do with some Americans who misguidedly believe English is their mother language.

;-)

Jan 08 13 07:31 am  Link  Quote 
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Hugh Alison
Posts: 2,112
Aberystwyth, Wales, United Kingdom


Fashion and Flash wrote:
The spiritism of the model and the photographer determines the nuture and nakiness of the shoot. As a spiritual purson, I fine that wobegone philopsoslies get me a lot of nude agreements and sesitude, expresiors which much belongs most often in chyrches and wholly places.

Hmm.

" I have found that these young ladies eager and willing to "try modeling" just for the excitement of something different from their humdrum lives in small town America. " 

Word has a grammar checker.

Glass houses.

Jan 08 13 07:33 am  Link  Quote 
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Damianne
Posts: 15,975
Austin, Texas, US


salvatori. wrote:

If you didn't read through the thread and are not aware that English isn't the OP's first language, maybe you should edit this.

If you did read through the thread and made this post anyway, you should be ashamed of yourself.

He's been posting weird stuff like that in other threads too.

Jan 08 13 07:37 am  Link  Quote 
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testingphotography
Posts: 185
Seattle, Washington, US


RDK Photographic said...

"*edit* please forgive me - my irony-meter is switched off at the moment due to my 2-year old forcing me to watch yet another DVD of Mickey-Mouse's Clubhouse with her...my brain is literally melting..."

Ha Ha, I remember when my kids were small coming to realize I needed more time with adults when one Saturday morning watching TV with my 2 and 6 year olds; the phone rang and I was miffed that by answering the phone I might miss Papa Smurf finding a way out of trouble.

Jan 08 13 07:40 am  Link  Quote 
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Autumn Rose Brightly
Posts: 1,097
Crowley, Texas, US


David Reams Photography wrote:
RDK Photographic said...

"*edit* please forgive me - my irony-meter is switched off at the moment due to my 2-year old forcing me to watch yet another DVD of Mickey-Mouse's Clubhouse with her...my brain is literally melting..."

Ha Ha, I remember when my kids were small coming to realize I needed more time with adults when one Saturday morning watching TV with my 2 and 6 year olds; the phone rang and I was miffed that by answering the phone I might miss Papa Smurf finding a way out of trouble.

Hahaha, tell me about it. I'm a full-time nanny and I've been stuck watching Chuggington for the last three hours >sad

Jan 08 13 08:13 am  Link  Quote 
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291
Posts: 11,911
SEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK, California, US


Fashion and Flash wrote:
The spiritism of the model and the photographer determines the nuture and nakiness of the shoot. As a spiritual purson, I fine that wobegone philopsoslies get me a lot of nude agreements and sesitude, expresiors which much belongs most often in chyrches and wholly places.

SPRINGHEEL  wrote:
Just perfect

and just plain drappy shit.

Jan 08 13 08:19 am  Link  Quote 
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Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 27,667
Dearborn, Michigan, US


Becks wrote:
Do the models can write? wink

She is from Latvia!

Jan 08 13 04:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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Aaron Lewis Photography
Posts: 5,083
Catskill, New York, US


Becks wrote:
Do the models can write? wink

Seriously. I can't even decipher that.

Jan 09 13 11:07 am  Link  Quote 
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Raoul Isidro Images
Posts: 6,145
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Viktorija Sketika wrote:
I'm new here, and just wondering did the photographers are able to read profile of the models.
After I get posted in MM I got invited to fiends or shots as nude!!! (tons of invites)
As far  I have seen only some nude shots are tasteful, but the tons of them are cheap.
Its in my profile no nude?
Please shear some ideas.
Models, how u surviving thru this?

Can't resist to fix this:

I'm new here, and I was just wondering if photographers ever read the actual profile of models...

Like, after joining and posting here in MM, I get invitations to do nudes, (tons of it!).

As far as I am concerned, I have only seen a handful of nudes done in a tasteful manner. Tons of them, like the rest, are el cheapo.

My profile says: No Nudes. So why pester me with these invites?

Would like to know your ideas on this.

Other models, how do you handle this? How do you survive the avalanche of nude requests?


.

Jan 10 13 03:31 am  Link  Quote 
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KonstantKarma
Posts: 2,513
Hickory, North Carolina, US


Try this:

"Not at this time, but thanks! I don't need money."
Jan 10 13 06:31 am  Link  Quote 
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D-Light
Posts: 608
Newcastle, Limerick, Ireland


From reading your profile, it's perfectly clear that you don't do nude shoots.

You're new and there's a lot of photographers here who are only interested in getting some girl to take off her clothes. New models, it seems, are easier to persuade, than someone with a few shoots under her belt.

Give it a month or two and it will stop. You may still get the odd fool who will try but it will not be a major problem any more.

In the mean time, be very careful with what you put on your profile and in mails. Get someone with better english to advise you. You may think something is clear but with your grammer, it may not be or some smart ass could twist it to mean the opposite.
Jan 10 13 07:29 am  Link  Quote 
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D0127H
Posts: 1,135
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada


Becks wrote:
Do the models can write? wink

How's your Latvian? ; )

Jan 10 13 07:54 am  Link  Quote 
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Damianne
Posts: 15,975
Austin, Texas, US


Raoul Isidro Images wrote:

Can't resist to fix this:

I'm new here, and I was just wondering if photographers ever read the actual profile of models...

Like, after joining and posting here in MM, I get invitations to do nudes, (tons of it!).

As far as I am concerned, I have only seen a handful of nudes done in a tasteful manner. Tons of them, like the rest, are el cheapo.

My profile says: No Nudes. So why pester me with these invites?

Would like to know your ideas on this.

Other models, how do you handle this? How do you survive the avalanche of nude requests?


.

If'n you're gonna fix it, you might want to make sure your sentence construction isn't also awkward.

Jan 10 13 08:04 am  Link  Quote 
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D-Light
Posts: 608
Newcastle, Limerick, Ireland


1873 Images wrote:
Wish I'd taken the time to learn another one, but at 50+ I think it's too late for me and reminds of this.

It's never too late. I learned Dutch and German is my late 40's and I'm now learning Hungarian and Romanian, at 52. The reason being, I have a use for all. Until 46 years of age I only spoke English and Irish.

It's impossible to learn any language without regular contact with speakers of it. If everyone around you speaks English, why learn another language, unless you have use for it.

English speakers get knocked all the time because of their lack of other languages but would the Dutch, for example, learn English, if it was of no use to them?

Jan 10 13 08:04 am  Link  Quote 
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Boho Hobo
Posts: 25,351
Portland, Oregon, US


Becks wrote:
Do the models can write? wink

Francisco Castro wrote:
She's from Latvia. English obviously isn't her mother language so I would cut her some slack.

Grammar aside, she does have a point. I have had too many model (who clearly state in clear English that they don't shoot nudes) friends who start out who complained of the same thing. It's like a swarm of piranhas chomping at fresh meat.

This IS MM.

MEAT is the name of the game, isn't it for most?

Jan 10 13 08:08 am  Link  Quote 
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