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Natural Means
Posts: 287
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Do you find much interest in the photis from MM and do you think it helps with networking?

Cheers

:-)
Jan 08 13 01:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Srefis Limited
Posts: 885
Asheville, North Carolina, US


Natural Means wrote:
Do you find much interest in the photis from MM and do you think it helps with networking?

Cheers

:-)

I think it's a waste. This is "Model Mayhem" not "Landscape Cataclysm".

Jan 08 13 01:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kaouthia
Posts: 3,080
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


It can be handy if you often mix the two. smile

http://www.jbcmedia.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSC_7012.jpg

The model may want to know you can make the environment around 'em not look completely crap, as well as them. wink
Jan 08 13 01:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Valenten Photography
Posts: 149
Balikpapan, Kalimantan Timur, Indonesia


Srefis Limited wrote:

I think it's a waste. This is "Model Mayhem" not "Landscape Cataclysm".

This.

Photographers are here to be judged on their model photographing skills, not their landscapes stuffs skills. I remember one of my models showing me pictures taken by a guy who usually does landscape photography, and complaining about how crap they were... smile

Jan 08 13 01:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Natural Light Studios 2
Posts: 14
Menlo Park, California, US


Valenten Photography wrote:

This.

Photographers are here to be judged on their model photographing skills, not their landscapes stuffs skills. I remember one of my models showing me pictures taken by a guy who usually does landscape photography, and complaining about how crap they were... smile

I laugh whenever I see remarks like these.  I include some landscapes in this port, because I like them, and they remind me daily of the awesomeness of nature.  Whether anyone else likes them or not isn't important to me, and I'm comfortable enough at this stage of my career that I don't care what most MM'ers think of my photography, either.  I've been there and done that, and long since moved beyond it.   

Personally, I think a few landscapes in (in my case) a second port shows a diversity of skills, they are examples of the control of natural light, and, in some cases, they are how I scout locations for my model shoots.  For those who understand the significance, they relate very closely to the model work I show on MM.

Those who don't like them, simply need not look.

Jan 08 13 02:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FiveOne November
Posts: 159
Rochester, New York, US


Models AS landscapes...that's another story! smile
Jan 08 13 02:08 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ChristerArt
Posts: 2,786
Cambridge, England, United Kingdom


Read the comments..=*^)

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/070705/02/468ca2272e57c.jpg

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/3354447

If nothing else it shows you're not a one trick pony.
Jan 08 13 02:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY
Posts: 4,441
Jacksonville, Florida, US


Natural Light Studios 2 wrote:

I laugh whenever I see remarks like these.  I include some landscapes in this port, because I like them, and they remind me daily of the awesomeness of nature.  Whether anyone else likes them or not isn't important to me, and I'm comfortable enough at this stage of my career that I don't care what most MM'ers think of my photography, either.  I've been there and done that, and long since moved beyond it.   

Personally, I think a few landscapes in (in my case) a second port shows a diversity of skills, they are examples of the control of natural light, and, in some cases, they are how I scout locations for my model shoots.  For those who understand the significance, they relate very closely to the model work I show on MM.

Those who don't like them, simply need not look.

This.......I also have some in my portfolio not model related, but it does show diversity in my works.

Jan 08 13 02:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ESR Photography
Posts: 368
Austin, Texas, US


Natural Light Studios 2 wrote:

I laugh whenever I see remarks like these.  I include some landscapes in this port, because I like them, and they remind me daily of the awesomeness of nature.  Whether anyone else likes them or not isn't important to me, and I'm comfortable enough at this stage of my career that I don't care what most MM'ers think of my photography, either.  I've been there and done that, and long since moved beyond it.   

Personally, I think a few landscapes in (in my case) a second port shows a diversity of skills, they are examples of the control of natural light, and, in some cases, they are how I scout locations for my model shoots.  For those who understand the significance, they relate very closely to the model work I show on MM.

Those who don't like them, simply need not look.

+1,000,000!!!

Jan 08 13 02:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 11,734
Tampa, Florida, US


Valenten Photography wrote:
This.

Photographers are here to be judged on their model photographing skills, not their landscapes stuffs skills. I remember one of my models showing me pictures taken by a guy who usually does landscape photography, and complaining about how crap they were... smile

Yes, my sole purpose in life and my motivation for photography is to make others such as yourself happy and do my best at choosing the images that you find acceptable.

Photographers are here for many reasons...not just the reasons you think they should be.

If you don't like landscape, or pet, or children, or male nudes, or autos, or product photography, or any other content than models, wonderful. Don't look. But don't tell others what they should be here for.

It must be difficult putting up with all these people who don't think like you.

Jan 08 13 02:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 11,734
Tampa, Florida, US


Valenten Photography wrote:
I remember one of my models showing me pictures taken by a guy who usually does landscape photography, and complaining about how crap they were... smile

I remember one of MY models (a mountain) telling me about all the uninspiring  photographers who would perform Suicide Girls shoots in front of her. She commented how they should expand their horizons.

Jan 08 13 02:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Raoul Isidro Images
Posts: 4,270
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Where you live right now... you are bombarded and surrounded by the most beautiful landscapes and some of them just a few minutes drive from home!

You can't escape it.


http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/379134_292141784151557_1918952358_n.jpg
Google Pin on Bondi Beach Copyright© Raoul Isidro  (the pin is 5 stories high, 50 feet)

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Jan 08 13 02:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
JBerman Photography
Posts: 954
New York, New York, US


I don't see how having a landscape in your port can hurt you.
I have access to this view - how can i resist?
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100920/09/4c978ad41dd8e.jpg
Jan 08 13 02:54 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jeffrey M Fletcher
Posts: 3,591
Asheville, North Carolina, US


Probably not so useful in mass as it would seem to avoid the point. But hey, you never know when a model is going to get tired of greenscreen and go looking for someone who can competently shoot her/him in nature.
Jan 08 13 02:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
MCPHOTO
Posts: 539
Duvall, Washington, US


when i first started on here I had a couple. But not now.
Jan 08 13 02:59 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kaouthia
Posts: 3,080
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


Valenten Photography wrote:
Photographers are here to be judged

By whom?  You?

Why should I care what you think? smile

Jan 08 13 03:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
MainePaintah
Posts: 1,207
Saco, Maine, US


I have 2 landscape paintings in my port, and they serve a valuable purpose.

I love to "comment for comment", and having a couple of landscape paintings in a port full of nude figure paintings lets those models that do not like to comment on nudes an alternative to comment on.
Jan 08 13 03:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ForeverFotos
Posts: 5,359
Slidell, Louisiana, US


Valenten Photography wrote:

This.

Photographers are here to be judged on their model photographing skills, not their landscapes stuffs skills. I remember one of my models showing me pictures taken by a guy who usually does landscape photography, and complaining about how crap they were... smile

Many of the truly outstanding fashion photos featured in the magazines that deal with that miniscule segment of the photo industry actually pose their models (and their garments) in front of outstanding scenery. Maybe those magazine editors forgot to ask your "model" what she thought about that. I'm sure they will not forget to do that in the future, right?

Jan 08 13 03:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Yum Yum Photo
Posts: 442
Park Ridge, New Jersey, US


In my real book I have landscapes....

In fashion you just dont shoot models..... You have shots which involve elaboarate sets and involve landscapes.....

Having a diverse portfolio is always good....

I think models here do like to see you can do good landscapes with models......

I also models need to learn to model outside a photographers studio....
Jan 08 13 03:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kaouthia
Posts: 3,080
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


Yum Yum Photo wrote:
also models need to learn to model outside a photographers studio....

Amazes me how many models have said to me "this is really exciting, never shot on location before, it's always in a studio".

Personally, I'd much rather be shooting on location than stuck in a studio.

Jan 08 13 03:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Farenell Photography
Posts: 16,597
Albany, New York, US


It can illustrate photographic competence for the model, especially if the photographer has an expertise in something beyond people related photography.

Now whether that competence can be incorporated or be useful for that specific model, Lord only knows.
Jan 08 13 03:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Hero Foto
Posts: 827
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Valenten Photography wrote:

This.

Photographers are here to be judged on their model photographing skills, not their landscapes stuffs skills. I remember one of my models showing me pictures taken by a guy who usually does landscape photography, and complaining about how crap they were... smile

"Working photographers earn a living by making (and keeping) their clients happy. They don't seek approval of other photographers because, quite frankly, that doesn't pay the bills." - P.L.

Jan 08 13 03:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Yum Yum Photo
Posts: 442
Park Ridge, New Jersey, US


http://onthisdayinfashion.com/?p=2590

Link to famous story of Diana Vreeland and Giorgio Sant'Angelo and a famous shoot in the desert.
Jan 08 13 04:03 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Valenten Photography
Posts: 149
Balikpapan, Kalimantan Timur, Indonesia


Natural Light Studios 2 wrote:

I laugh whenever I see remarks like these.  I include some landscapes in this port, because I like them, and they remind me daily of the awesomeness of nature.  Whether anyone else likes them or not isn't important to me, and I'm comfortable enough at this stage of my career that I don't care what most MM'ers think of my photography, either.  I've been there and done that, and long since moved beyond it.   

Personally, I think a few landscapes in (in my case) a second port shows a diversity of skills, they are examples of the control of natural light, and, in some cases, they are how I scout locations for my model shoots.  For those who understand the significance, they relate very closely to the model work I show on MM.

Those who don't like them, simply need not look.

Well it depends on whether you're using MM for networking and finding new models or not. You're here to show you're good at portraits. Putting other pictures is the aim of a website.

Jan 08 13 04:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Valenten Photography
Posts: 149
Balikpapan, Kalimantan Timur, Indonesia


ForeverFotos wrote:

Many of the truly outstanding fashion photos featured in the magazines that deal with that miniscule segment of the photo industry actually pose their models (and their garments) in front of outstanding scenery. Maybe those magazine editors forgot to ask your "model" what she thought about that. I'm sure they will not forget to do that in the future, right?

You misunderstood me (i think). The guy was taking good pictures of landscapes, and he wanted to shoot with her. But eventually the picts turned out crap. My point is that the skills to take great landscapes are not the same than for models. Not sure to follow you...

Hero Foto wrote:
"Working photographers earn a living by making (and keeping) their clients happy. They don't seek approval of other photographers because, quite frankly, that doesn't pay the bills." - P.L.

Bah, I'm just answering the question of this topic. I believe it's more interesting to show portraits pictures than model pictures on a model website. However, maybe some people have some "marketing strategies" that include posting landscape pictures. I don't really care, I just think it does not correspond to the modelling niche...

Edit : so yeah, in other words and as I won't be taken for the guy who's sure his thoughts are the only true ones : I don't have a BIG problem with this, but I believe it's irrelevant to this website. It's obviously up to the photographer to take the decision, I am just saying that I have a negative point of view regarding this topic's question smile

Jan 08 13 04:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Yum Yum Photo
Posts: 442
Park Ridge, New Jersey, US


I think photographer like to argue......
Jan 08 13 04:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
MaxImage
Posts: 16
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


I really don't see the point of landscapes in your port. If your model images don't prove you can shoot then tossing in a landscape isn't going to help. I treat it the same way you would a printed portfolio. Models, landscapes, comercial, whatever as separate books. Also, if you only have a basic account why waste a slot with a landscape?
Jan 08 13 04:21 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
MaxImage
Posts: 16
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Then again, you could always do both like this guy...

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/29272091
Jan 08 13 04:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Yum Yum Photo
Posts: 442
Park Ridge, New Jersey, US


Never heard of model as a category in a portfolio.... Fashion/Editorial.... Portraits... Landscapes... Street Photography....
Jan 08 13 04:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Natural Means
Posts: 287
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Yum Yum Photo wrote:
I think photographer like to argue......

No we don't! :-)

Thanks for thoughts - the question was really aimed at those that have decided to include landscapes, and there was some useful perspective - many thanks.

Jan 08 13 04:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Images by MR
Posts: 6,039
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


IMO... I don't think non model related photos belong on this site.  If you have such photos maybe best to link to another site to showcase them.

Just my thoughts ~ MR
Jan 08 13 04:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
MaxImage
Posts: 16
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Yum Yum Photo wrote:
Never heard of model as a category in a portfolio.... Fashion/Editorial.... Portraits... Landscapes... Street Photography....

Okay... the point was regarding keeping catagories focused not about labels.

Jan 08 13 05:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
afplcc
Posts: 5,735
Fairfax, Virginia, US


Natural Means wrote:
Do you find much interest in the photis from MM and do you think it helps with networking?

Cheers

:-)

Most shots in my portfolio have landscapes in them, but they're artistic nudes shot with rocks or a waterfall or shadow-and-light patterns.  And yes, I get a lot of interest.  Occassionally it's "wow, I'd like to shoot at that spot, where is it?" (from photographers or models) to "gee, I love this work, let's shoot" or "cool backdrop".

But b/c this is MODEL mayhem, I don't put my abstract work in here, or old photojournalism work, or sports, or children's portraits, or anything that doesn't involve models.

Ed

Jan 08 13 05:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Karl Johnston
Posts: 7,255
Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada


those bastards, how dare they!
Jan 08 13 05:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,113
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


the waterfall never flakes or demands to bring an escort.  the rockies never asked for all the raw files
Jan 08 13 06:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
KevinMcGowanPhotography
Posts: 3,945
Houston, Texas, US


Valenten Photography wrote:

This.

Photographers are here to be judged on their model photographing skills, not their landscapes stuffs skills. I remember one of my models showing me pictures taken by a guy who usually does landscape photography, and complaining about how crap they were... smile

I swear...I don't look at the photos.. I'm just here to read the articles smile

Jan 08 13 06:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,113
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


KevinMcGowanPhotography wrote:

I swear...I don't look at the photos.. I'm just here to read the articles smile

you are comparing MM to playboy????????? i didnt know gore vidal had an account here

Jan 08 13 06:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
KevinMcGowanPhotography
Posts: 3,945
Houston, Texas, US


AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:

you are comparing MM to playboy????????? i didnt know gore vidal had an account here

Welll.......maybe not PB but....

I really do learn stuff on here..and some of the OPs are just TOO damn funny and entertaining for words! smile

I've shot a bit of fashion for magazines,  but I'm not a fashion shooter.

I hope they let me stay... smilesmile

Jan 08 13 06:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GER Photography
Posts: 6,241
Imperial, California, US


As hard as it is to find a reliable model  here on MM, I have, of late, been contemplating a foray into the world to seek out landscapes and the odd butterfly to photograph.:-)))
Jan 08 13 06:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,113
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


KevinMcGowanPhotography wrote:

Welll.......maybe not PB but....

I really do learn stuff on here..and some of the OPs are just TOO damn funny and entertaining for words! smile

I've shot a bit of fashion for magazines,  but I'm not a fashion shooter.

I hope they let me stay... smilesmile

i am a fashion shooter with no fashion for magazines and they dont dare try to kick me out smile

Jan 08 13 06:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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