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Photographer
frankgr
Posts: 24
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Assuming the original shooting setup was fairly straight forward ie the subjects were standing in front of a white or off-white background and the light was bounced off a white ceiling. i asked the photographer and he says he did them on location in a small white 'wedding tent' / gazebo.

How do you think the photoshop post production is done. He is not keen to share this info. Starting off with a de-saturation layer, I then tried putting a new solid col fill layer over the backgound layer and trying different blend modes and opacities to no avail.
The skin tones and background are almost the same col.

Can anyone shine some light on how to do it?
http://www.frankgross.com/temp/example/67&9.jpg
Thanks in advance.
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Jan 08 13 06:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
William Kious
Posts: 8,841
Delphos, Ohio, US


You could get pretty close to this messing around with HSL in Lightroom (pushing the saturation and luminosity of different colors.) Fiddling with the clarity slider would be helpful, too. You could do the same thing in Photoshop with adjustment layers.
Jan 08 13 06:13 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
frankgr
Posts: 24
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


if only it were so simple as a hsl layer :-)
Jan 08 13 06:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
gpmcguire
Posts: 1,169
Brooklyn, New York, US


is this sort of what you want- if so i can try to explain

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31224451  18+
Jan 08 13 06:41 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
frankgr
Posts: 24
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


thanks but I cant view the link. There is an error message "Image Not Viewable Worksafe Mode 'On'". maybe it's something on my end? I'm new around here so I may not have certain settings right.
Did you see the image I linked in my OP ?
Jan 08 13 06:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
gpmcguire
Posts: 1,169
Brooklyn, New York, US


yes I saw your link - I was wondering if you thought mine was close enough to it - that way I could explain

go to my port look for this "Toggle Worksafe Mode: Off | On" on the upper right and change your settings
Jan 08 13 07:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
bmiSTUDIO
Posts: 1,733
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US


Increasing contrast and decreasing skin tones. Even though I do all my own retouching, I'm not a graphic artist, so I'm not sure how complicated the process is.
Jan 08 13 07:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
frankgr
Posts: 24
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Thanks for pointing me to that toggle switch. Yes your shot is pretty close I think. Of course there are differences - the type of light ie soft/hard, the color in the example is perhaps 'creamier'. But in general I think your image achieves a similar proximity between background and skin col
Jan 08 13 07:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Random Name
Posts: 65
Spokane, Washington, US


gpmcguire,

I think what OP may be refrencing is how (like your image) the skin tones are desaturated (not sure this has to do with a specific background color or just a coincidence of a white background) while the clothing retains much more of the color.

In any case, kudos on your image, and i would be curious to know how you achieved that effect.
Jan 08 13 07:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Random Name
Posts: 65
Spokane, Washington, US


Ha! ninja'd

smile
Jan 08 13 07:12 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
gpmcguire
Posts: 1,169
Brooklyn, New York, US


in lightroom
first i drop the vibrance and saturation
in split toning i pick the color i want in highlights and up the saturation I do the same for shadows too
in tone curve I adjust to my taste usually upping lights

in the image you posted i would think he adjusted saturation of the clothing

i then export to PS and adjust color balance to bring back some redness to the skin
and adjust hue/saturation

at this point I have set adjustments to my taste and i just tweak them per image

basically I am removing then adding color
Jan 08 13 07:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
frankgr
Posts: 24
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Thank you very much for sharing.
I will try it out tomorrow morning (too tired now to do it).
I don't have LR but all the same adjustments should work just the same in ACR & PS - I assume you were referring to working on a raw file in LR before PS.
Thanks again - I'll post back after working on it a bit.
Jan 08 13 07:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
gpmcguire
Posts: 1,169
Brooklyn, New York, US


you can download lightroom for a 30 day free trial
Jan 08 13 07:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
frankgr
Posts: 24
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Thanks, I could do that but are you saying you cant do exactly the same thing in ACR (adobe camera raw) prior to photoshop? It also has vibrance & sat sliders and split toning sliders and curves ....

is the method you explained the same as the one you used in that very cool shot (of yours) of a model in a white cube (plexiglass?)  "confined"
Jan 08 13 07:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
gpmcguire
Posts: 1,169
Brooklyn, New York, US


frankgr wrote:
Thanks, I could do that but are you saying you cant do exactly the same thing in ACR (adobe camera raw) prior to photoshop? It also has vibrance & sat sliders and split toning sliders and curves ....

is the method you explained the same as the one you used in that very cool shot (of yours) of a model in a white cube (plexiglass?)  "confined"

i have never used ACR - i learned in lightroom but by what you say they seem close

the cube shot of ekaterina is almost as "in camera" with minor adjustments plus some retouching

victoria was adjusted a lot (because I f'd up) to get the cube itself to be as close as possible to ekaterina's

and yes the same way as the other image just not as much

Jan 08 13 07:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Peano
Posts: 4,106
Lynchburg, Virginia, US


The three images you linked to all look to me like B/W images that were colorized.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7144/colorizef.jpg
Jan 08 13 08:13 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
dave phoenix
Posts: 1,299
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Peano wrote:
The three images you linked to all look to me like B/W images that were colorized.

yep, i agree they have a hand-tinted look.

"hand tinting photoshop" would be a good search keyword to start with.

Jan 08 13 08:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
gpmcguire
Posts: 1,169
Brooklyn, New York, US


dave phoenix wrote:

yep, i agree they have a hand-tinted look.

"hand tinting photoshop" would be a good search keyword to start with.

thank you

Jan 08 13 08:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
KA Style
Posts: 1,583
Syracuse, New York, US


Looks like a Lightroom preset I have. I downloaded a new version of LR and I havent put all my presets in the new one so I cant remember the name of the preset...

They have some great freebie LR presets on the net you can download.

This kind of looks like what you're looking for.

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g462/KGlam1/Banners/DSC_6291_zps06d5f3bf.jpg
Jan 08 13 08:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
frankgr
Posts: 24
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


gpmcguire's:
I'm going to try out gpmcguire's workflow suggestion today.
On reading it again, it seems 'all' the highlights, or 'all' the shadows are going to be affected by the split tone sliders so this means the color of the skin and background already have to be the same, or very similar,  to ake on the same col tone. But lets wait & see....

ka style:
I do like the example you've posted. Can you share that workflow or preset ?

hand tinting:
This is what I've been trying to do prior to posting here for help.
It's not really the same. Or maybe it's just me.I tried tons of ways & tweaks ?
Jan 09 13 04:25 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
frankgr
Posts: 24
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


in these 2 new examples , the lighting is different (from one another and from the example posted in my OP) and so is the background, col and contrast.
But I don't think the post is very different - is it?

http://www.frankgross.com/temp/example/p1.jpg

http://www.frankgross.com/temp/example/12bh.jpg

I have tried forever to do a hand tinted b/w effect without success
Jan 09 13 04:43 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Peano
Posts: 4,106
Lynchburg, Virginia, US


frankgr wrote:
I have tried forever to do a hand tinted b/w effect without success

You might find some helpful guidance here:

http://www.innographx.com/forum/viewtop … =12&t=1788

Jan 09 13 04:51 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
frankgr
Posts: 24
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Hand tinting suggestions -
thanks for the link.
I'll see if I can improve my hand tinting process.
My method has basically been to duplicate the col bkground layer, & place a b/w adj. layer (e.g.  ch mixer) between them. Then change the opacity of the b/w layer to allow the top layer col to come through (using painted layer masks if necessary).
Also try different blend modes for the top col layer &/or the b/w layer.
No luck.
I've also tried placing a new solid col layer on the top, with col blend mode, to act as an overall 'filter' - nope.

gpmcguire -
I ran trough your steps to see if I can even get into the ballpark, but no luck. I get stuck right off the top when I drop the Vibrance and Saturation, basically reducing the image to B/W.
You said - "basically I am removing then adding color"
When I try and add the col back with the split-tone hilite & shadow & their respective saturation sliders, I don't get anything like where we want to go, so no point in taking the next steps to a col adj layer etc
Jan 09 13 05:33 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
KA Style
Posts: 1,583
Syracuse, New York, US


frankgr wrote:
.

ka style:
I do like the example you've posted. Can you share that workflow or preset ?

Thanks.

Its just a one click process with the presets, its all already done for you. I may have tweaked exposure, contrast, desaturate, or clarity a bit.. I did these photos a while back so I dont exactly remember but I know I didnt do much work processing this shoot.( I do know it was a freebie preset though) I cant remember the name of the preset. I do 90% of my workflow in LR. I mainly just do skin work and layout spreads/story boards in PS. Only 2 programs I use.

With LR presets post processing is quick because a lot of them are a one click process with some minor tweaks which you can copy and apply to the others or even batch process. Just like its really easy to make a preset.. do the work, copy, and then name it. Its like a PS action but better and quicker IMO. No layers just adjusting some sliders in LR.

If I were you download some and try them out. smile

I know I got a bunch from here- http://www.presetsheaven.com/

Jan 09 13 05:40 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Joseph William
Posts: 2,002
Chicago, Illinois, US


KA Style wrote:

Thanks.

Its just a one click process with the presets, its all already done for you. I may have tweaked exposure, contrast, desaturate, or clarity a bit.. I did these photos a while back so I dont exactly remember but I know I didnt do much work processing this shoot.( I do know it was a freebie preset though) I cant remember the name of the preset. I do 90% of my workflow in LR. I mainly just do skin work and layout spreads/story boards in PS. Only 2 programs I use.

With LR presets post processing is quick because a lot of them are a one click process with some minor tweaks which you can copy and apply to the others or even batch process. Just like its really easy to make a preset.. do the work, copy, and then name it. Its like a PS action but better and quicker IMO. No layers just adjusting some sliders in LR.

If I were you download some and try them out. smile

I know I got a bunch from here- http://www.presetsheaven.com/

I'll be your friend forever if you open that image in light room and check the name of the action...

Jan 09 13 05:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
KA Style
Posts: 1,583
Syracuse, New York, US


Joseph William  wrote:
I'll be your friend forever if you open that image in light room and check the name of the action...

Well, I cleaned out my presets because i dont use a bunch anymore.. but I just used the standard LR Color Creative Bleach Bypass preset, adding a little warmth with the temp slider and added a bit more contrast and got a very similar look. smile

To add: email me and ill send a preset I made thats real close...

Jan 09 13 06:19 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Joseph William
Posts: 2,002
Chicago, Illinois, US


KA Style wrote:

Well, I cleaned out my presets because i dont use a bunch anymore.. but I just used the standard LR Color Creative Bleach Bypass preset, adding a little warmth with the temp slider and added a bit more contrast and got the same look. smile

Thanks buddy!  I will take that as an answer, but also the image history should have the name of the preset...

Jan 09 13 06:28 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
KA Style
Posts: 1,583
Syracuse, New York, US


Joseph William  wrote:
Thanks buddy!  I will take that as an answer, but also the image history should have the name of the preset...

I dont have it, Ive cleaned out my LR and that set. That set is from back in 2011..

Jan 09 13 06:38 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
AKMac
Posts: 322
London, England, United Kingdom


I think there is also a subtle, 'watery' blur going on in the original images, which is part of the overall look. I've tried to illustrate it here, but it may not be clear at this resolution.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21186335/Untitled-1.jpg
The block on the left is normal, the one in the middle has a very slight blur behind it (multiply mode), and the one on the right is the same as the middle one but slightly sharpened in front of the blur.
Jan 09 13 07:09 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
frankgr
Posts: 24
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Maybe there is some blur - not sure.
The photographer said he had them standing close to the background hence the 'shadow'.
But that's not my main problem :-)
Jan 09 13 07:35 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
frankgr
Posts: 24
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Having said that, while I'm trying to figure out how to get the monochromatic effect, how did you do the blur - is it an overall gaussian blur of 3-6 px ?
Jan 09 13 06:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
AKMac
Posts: 322
London, England, United Kingdom


The radius is totally dependent on the image ppi. For this I just duplicated the layer, blurred it, reduced the opacity to close to zero, and put it into multipl mode.
The reason I mentioned the diffused effect was that I think it's virtually impossible to replicate a look unless you deal with the whole look. Its a Gestalt thing.
Jan 09 13 11:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Valenten Photography
Posts: 265
Balikpapan, Kalimantan Timur, Indonesia


I believe Vibrance, in Camera Raw/Lightroom, would help you reach this effect, along with a little low-opacity sepia/yellowish color filter
Jan 14 13 07:30 am  Link  Quote 
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