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its free hosting but it is unprofessional to have a locked down profile if you need it to be viewed by random people casting Jan 12 13 10:14 am Link I would not take someone seriously that only sent me to a facebook page to view their work. Facebook is a great business tool in addition to having a website, it's not meant to be used instead of a website. Jan 12 13 10:16 am Link Pistol Foto wrote: This is actually incomplete... In December 17th Facebook via Instagram announced changes to it's terms of service to provide Instagram with a perpetual right to sell users' content without payment or notification, and requires the content owner to represent and warrant to Instagram that Instagram's use will not violate any third party rights, including publicity and privacy rights. Jan 12 13 01:14 pm Link I do have a facebook account....I do have some of my work there (for friends to see) I would NEVER send a client there or here!. I don't take anyone seriously that hasn't at least invested in a website portfolio. It's not expensive.... And don't anyone tell me you can not afford a website while you stop at Starbucks for your latte.... go to happy hour.... Buy cigarettes... just don't...please. Jan 12 13 06:10 pm Link rick lesser wrote: as far as screening people....absolutely go to FACEBOOK. I have an ad running right now for a customer service rep at my store and the first thing I do is go to Facebook.... I look at who the persons friends are, who their significant other is.... what their "likes" are...How they chat among their peers... I eliminate about 50% of my applicants just from their FB pages. You can tell everything you need to know about someone on FB Jan 12 13 06:28 pm Link I sense that Facebook is on its way out and deleted my account. I have switched to Google+ That said, I would never make a social network my primary point of contact. I actually determined that the facebook model was bad for my business. PRIVACY REASONS: "Text friends wherever they are. Reach friends on mobile or chat, and know when they see your messages." Can Facebook go one day without a new anti-privacy tweak? So basically the days of receiving a message, looking at it and saying "meh, I'll get back to it when I have time to think about it, or when I'm done doing real work in the real world, or when I'm off the toilet..." those days are not good enough for Facebook. Now the people you're ignoring for a couple of minutes/hours have the luxury of *knowing* it and you can have all the drama that comes when they're offended. Facebook tweaks its privacy settings left and right, without warning, and without giving a clear way to opt-out. They also removed the permissions that once existed to allow you to control who sees when you are commenting on a page, photo, or "liking" a post, making it a free-for-all. Also, despite my repeated denials to allow them to use geolocating (a stalker or home-invader's dream) on my posts or to access my mobile, they kept pushing it. Say you're a business owner, and you are on Facebook to network. You comment on a link or photo of one of your contacts. Then one of your friends starts chatting with you on the page of this person they've never met, making your client feel awkward. Or your competition starts to follow who you are talking to and what is being said to try and take advantage of the network you have built up and weasel their way into your work. Both of these have actually happened to me. It's ripe for poachers. I have even had a couple of awkward moments where I had to apologize for Facebook "friends" (people who had added me through shows rather than people I really knew socially) who overstepped and started responding to my clients posts to request work whenever they saw I had reached out to them. I have better control over the social/business circles at G+ . I also like the idea that I can reach a broader audience with invites by not restricting myself to only sending to people who are on the platform, like Facebook does. They also fave a far better gallery feature to display work with a mouseover that allows you to view an entire gallery easier, rather than having to slog through clicking multiple images one by one, or navigating backwards to the main gallery. Hangouts allows up to 9 people to video chat at once, and has a lot of potential for project collaborations. One of the reasons I had been staying with Facebook is the idea of networking, but truth be told, Facebook is a *horrible* venue to do business. I have not gotten a single paying gig through the site that I hadn't already met while out in the real world. In fact, when when contacts did reach me, and did so through Facebook's messages or chat, it was lost under spam and clutter, or in the "hidden" mailbox and garnered nothing but a slower response time and precious business time wasted digging for a message that could have been answered swiftly and kept organized by projects in actual email. I also couldn't refer back to it after a certain period of time. I also find that people are more likely to want my labor for free if their primary point of contact is Facebook. The idea that they "know you" because they are a Facebook friend makes some feel entitled to favors, even if you've only met in person a couple of times. I find that at least for my own business the labor time spent slogging through posts to find something relevant versus the cut in actual production time isn't worth it (especially with the privacy chiseled away and other people in the industry piggybacking on my own labor for their contacts and overstepping business boundaries) . I would rather produce and market more efficiently...and make in-person connections in a more personal and less time-sucky way. Beer is good business. Networking Tips: Why Facebook And LinkedIn May Not Pay Off http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/0 … 97441.html I know, I sound like a commercial. But I did my homework before deleting, and I've always been a good trend-spotter. Business is better than ever. THAT SAID...I still don't use it as a primary contact. It is a supplemental for my actual site. (which I have to get back to redesigning behind the scenes). Jan 13 13 02:10 am Link Pinup Fantasies wrote: Exactly, between my time here, and my regular primary e-mails I don't have time to play on facebook either which is what a lot of the activity there looks like to me, playing!! Jan 13 13 04:04 am Link For everyone who has a website and no Facebook account, how do you market your website? I've been around long enough to know that just putting a webpage up isn't going to get you any traffic without doing something else. What do you do? Jan 13 13 09:14 am Link Mary wrote: Right! You can get a real nice site for pennies now a days.. there is no excuse! Plus hiring someone to rework a template instead of starting from scratch is Very affordable. Jan 13 13 10:16 am Link Sand Angel Photography wrote: Google/SE. I keep working on SEO. SE trumps everything else. Jan 13 13 10:17 am Link rick lesser wrote: All I can say is.. get yourself a Facebook page. It's quicker to update than your average website, it's yet another form of networking and it's completely free. Jan 13 13 10:33 am Link tl;dr all posts The OP's respondents need to learn to use FB: How to send a public link for one of your FB albums. http://www.facebook.com/help/124590517619792/ Jan 13 13 11:20 am Link Lucinda at Being Fab wrote: Totally with ya here, I said something along the lines of this in a previous post in this thread. I had this happen quiet a few times on my page. Jan 14 13 05:15 am Link I actually just published an article on this topic The Makeup of Social Media: http://cahootsblog.com/2013/01/15/the-m … ial-media/ I think that it is all about how you use facebook for makeup artistry and how you present it. Is it a substitute for a website? No, but you can upload pics so easily it can be the best place to view one's most up to date portfolio. Klara Jan 16 13 10:20 am Link I don't think it's professional for portfolios - but many agencies are telling new models to have a facebook business page or fan page *whatever it's called* with only their model snapshots - headshots - stats, etc. on there. So they can take a look at them online and I'm sure check out their status to get an idea of how they behave online. I don't think I'd have that public if it were me. Jan 16 13 04:47 pm Link Ash Mathews wrote: this!Not an ok option if you want to be viewed as a "pro"...... Jan 17 13 12:51 pm Link I have a professional website http://www.michaelclements.com.au/ And I have FB. I'd be pretty stupid to not take advantage of free publicity and promotion. Jan 17 13 01:02 pm Link Anyone who has read the exceptionally greedy, and exploitive FB terms of service is very foolish to post any image of value on such a rights grabbing site. (Or does no one read?) Jan 17 13 01:15 pm Link rick lesser wrote: send me a link to facebook and i will not book you Jan 17 13 01:18 pm Link I don't send people to facebook to look at my work but I accept work booked from facebook. It's just another platform IMO but I don't send people to MM to view my work either -- that's what my website is for. I have booked more paid work via facebook than I have MM. Jan 17 13 01:37 pm Link i personally have facebook, but i also have a dedicated website (currently being re-designed) that i direct people to if needed. i see no fault in using facebook as a medium, much like using flickr, photobucket, 500px, deviantart...these are all just social mediums to help put that persons name into someone elses head. the more you use them, the more likely someone will think of you when showing their friends or looking for a new llama, photographer or H/MUA. same thing as using MM here as a medium. Jan 17 13 02:04 pm Link Good Egg Productions wrote: Exactly...even Solomodels just announced the end of Solomodels.com because of Social Media and they have a new service ready. Jan 17 13 02:24 pm Link Star wrote: A whole lot faster to chat with people on Facebook than to try to do it here. I just had one person who was responding to me every five days at best. Finally got them to add me on Facebook and we had a shoot booked only 45 minutes later from the back and forth FB chat. Jan 17 13 02:29 pm Link I think it's unprofessional to send people to your facebook to like your page.If you're serious about your craft then you should have web site. If can't spend the money to do that then you're not ready to play with big boys.I have F/B fan page and don't even use it,because my work speak for its self,I don't need a million likes,I'm not blogger,sorry if this offense anyone...its just my opinion. Jan 17 13 05:21 pm Link Keila Sone wrote: agree as I stated before..... Just wanted to add.... Would you find a doctor, plumber, car repair shop on FB? Well, maybe some of you would but most people prefer to see that someone is at least established enough to have invested $100.00 and a few days into their business... Jan 17 13 06:58 pm Link Sand Angel Photography wrote: I have plenty of ways people can contact me. I try to move conversation on MM off here and on to email where it is very easy to communicate quickly. We each get a record of all the communication and I can attach images, PDF files of a mood board or a model release. Jan 17 13 07:20 pm Link Keila Sone wrote: Funny. I get the same impression about people who don't have both. Jan 18 13 06:25 am Link Im with Mary. (I feel like Im stalking you Mary! lol) I always say, if you don't invest in yourself why would anyone else? I'll even move on to the next if your website is a train wreck. 70% of sites I click on are, particularly in this industry and the wedding industry. I swear I want to spam people with me giving a make over!(I do web stuff in the side) Even some web developers.. they can develop but they lack design savvy. ok enough about that thats a whole other topic... I think dont Star meant she wouldn't communicate through fb ever but dont just send a fb to apply for a gig. Send your website. FB is unreliable, I want to track convo through my email for anything professional. Fb also does not show your work in its best light either. Connect fb you your website. This thread was never a question of utilizing it to network. Jan 18 13 07:52 am Link Sand Angel Photography wrote: Sand Angel Im going to have to disagree on your last statement. Plenty of professionals work without using SM much or at all. Its not the be all of business. And at times I am that busy where I have no time to post on SM. I find SM to be time consuming without enough return. I spend my time trying to rank my website for all my keywords to page one. Referrals and Google/SE is where I get my return. I had all the social media, played with it for years. Even blew up on the almighty Fb 3 years back but it changed and became useless for me. I deleted most of my SM accounts. The Facebook train was great 3 years ago and now its run its course just like this site has. It suits big business more. Jan 18 13 08:15 am Link rick lesser wrote: It is unprofessional to use FB as a primary portfolio/contact... But at the same time, it's not hard to create a FB account so you can stay connected. Word of mouth will always be the most effective form of promotion.. Facebook is word of mouth on steroids. Why not use it? Jan 18 13 08:26 am Link DAN CRUIKSHANK wrote: This is my basic stance as well. I usually post my work on my website first and at a minimum post several photos onto Facebook as a teaser with a link back to the better photos on my website. And then I tag everyone I know (if they are in the photos) which means everyone they know will see my work. Jan 18 13 09:12 am Link I send people to my facebook. Though I have two different accounts. One is my personal account, and the other is just a fanpage. For me, MM is not worth the extra money to pay a monthly fee. I had VIP for 3 or 4 months. But my area is very small and I couldn't justify it anymore. (the first page of last active users, has people that haven't been activate in months) FB allows me to show off all my work and communicate with people. I should add, I never get contacted on MM for paid or TF work. Not once! One FB I get probably a few a week. (which for me is good since I'm just starting) Jan 18 13 09:40 am Link I do have some work on facebook that I do not have "here" but there is enough in my MM port..... I find facebook to be much more useful for casting and networking really..... I often connect with models and production team people "there" who turn out to be on MM but there was no way for me to really encounter them here..... Jan 18 13 09:44 am Link I had someone send me a photo idea to open in deviant art and I need an account to open it? Nope! Make it accessible to you to collaborate as a team! Jan 18 13 10:24 am Link if not facebook,…. there is deviantart.com if you want bookings quick,…. theres craigslist (there is people who are always hiring/casting) want to show off your pix with/without comments,... weheart it.com or tumblr.com the more accounts to show your work the easier for people to find you… via google, bing, yahoo, stumble apon thus easier to get gigs therefore easier to pay your bills!  Feb 08 13 01:08 am Link I'm on facebook, and its how i get 90% of my jobs, i live in a smaller community and in this city Facebook is the WAY to network  I'm in the process of watermarking all of my images, but honestly you do what works in your area, in my little neck of the woods Facebook is how i get work... and I'm ok with that Feb 08 13 11:49 am Link rick lesser wrote: Then why ask anyone to explain anything else? Feb 08 13 01:03 pm Link only Mongolian on Model Mayhem if you add me or like me, I will too. Let's network. Facebook link: https://www.facebook.com/emunkhbileg Fan Page: https://www.facebook.com/enmunkhbileg MM link: https://www.modelmayhem.com/Muugi/ Instagram: munkhbileg Nov 26 13 11:54 am Link I have a facebook "fan" account, but I personally don't find it all that professional. I know tons of MUAs and photographers that JUST use that place of an actual portfolio/website. With all of the domain websites out there it just seems silly not to have a site for a potential client to view your work. Heck even MM is sufficient enough if you really didn't want to put a lot of time and money into one. Nov 26 13 03:49 pm Link Muugi wrote: Are you kidding me? you just brought back a thread from Feb 2013 to increase your friend count? Nov 26 13 09:46 pm Link |
