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Agustin_0
Posts: 17
Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Argentina


So I noticed that my retouch's get a horrible coloring when I upload them to MM. My images end up looking way more desaturated and yellow-ish than the one I see in Photoshop. Does anyone know why and how to fix this? Thanks in advance!
Jan 11 13 10:11 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Toto Photo
Posts: 2,621
Belmont, California, US


I believe I've read sRGB doesn't shift dramatically, but do a search on this topic if you want a definitive answer as it comes up often.
Jan 11 13 10:31 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
730372
Posts: 1,952
Abbeville, Alabama, US


Convert to sRGB from your working colour profile (AdobeRGB?) before creating the JPG.

Edit/'Convert to profile' in Photoshop.
Jan 11 13 10:35 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12,116
Tampa, Florida, US


I don't convert the working profile but rather use the "Save for Web" feature and convert to srgb there so it's not affecting the .psd file. But either way, you need to save the image with the srgb profile for web use.
Jan 11 13 10:42 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ontherocks
Posts: 22,348
Salem, Oregon, US


i do mine in sRGB and size to fit within 800x850. so far i haven't noticed anything horrible. unlike Facebook!
Jan 11 13 10:55 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Krunoslav Stifter
Posts: 3,850
Santa Cruz, California, US


Agustin_0 wrote:
So I noticed that my retouch's get a horrible coloring when I upload them to MM. My images end up looking way more desaturated and yellow-ish than the one I see in Photoshop. Does anyone know why and how to fix this? Thanks in advance!

Probably looking at the images in noncolor managed browser. What web browser are you using and can you do an experiment?

In Photoshop go to View > Proof Setup > Monitor RGB and see if you notice the same change with the image as you do when you uploaded to web.

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/920/64784531.jpg

If you do than that most likely means that you are using a non color managed application (web browser) and you are using color managed application (Photoshop) and you are seeing the difference. You can work around that but first we need to know what we are dealing with and if indeed this is the case.

Jan 11 13 11:03 am  Link  Quote 
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Grace Photographic
Posts: 7,977
Abingdon, Virginia, US


Size your images before you upload them to MM.
If you don't then all EXIF information will be striped (including the color profile) which can have some very undesirable effects.

From:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/mystuff/mana … load_photo

Model Mayhem only accepts the JPG filetype. So if you have a GIF or some other wacky image, you will need to change it to a JPG in an image editor first.

Photos must be greater than 200px in width and 300px in height, and 7kb in file size.

Photos must not contain more than 4 million total square pixels (e.g., 4000px x 1000px), or exceed 800kb in file size. Photos wider than 800px will automatically be resized, which will also strip EXIF and color space info.

Edit:
Ok... after looking at your EXIF of this shot:
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/13 … 189eab.jpg

Embedded color profile: “(unrecognized embedded color profile 'ProPhoto RGB')”

Convert to sRGB (or Save for Web) before uploading.

This one however was stripped:
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/13 … a7750e.jpg

File Comment: CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 95
File: 1,199 × 800 JPEG
312,805 bytes (0.30 megabytes)     Image compression: 89%
Color Encoding: WARNING: No color-space metadata and no embedded color profile: Windows and Mac web browsers treat colors randomly.

Images for the web are most widly viewable when in the sRGB color space and with an embedded color profile. See my Introduction to Digital-Image Color Spaces (http://regex.info/blog/photo-tech/color-spaces-page1/) for more information.
Image URL: http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/13 … a7750e.jpg
Apply other tools to this image via ImgOps.com.

Exif viewed using Jeffery's EXIF viewer:
http://regex.info/exif.cgi

Jan 11 13 11:11 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Agustin_0
Posts: 17
Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Argentina


Oh thanks so much guys!! I resized to 800px wide and used Save for web and everything looks great now!

@Krunoslav: I did what you said and the colors changed to the ones that resulted once I uploaded my images to MM. I'm using Chrome for mac and Photoshop CS6, and I don't know what that Proof Setup tool works for, but the methods provided by the others worked like a charm anyway.

Thanks everyone, again!
Jan 11 13 11:25 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Neil Snape
Posts: 9,456
Paris, Île-de-France, France


The icons are not color managed, the images are. IF you save your images in sRGB, they will be displayed on a calibrated monitor correctly. If your screen is not, you will display whatever the combo of the video card and screen make, sometimes far off what is really assigned in the document.
Jan 11 13 11:28 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Krunoslav Stifter
Posts: 3,850
Santa Cruz, California, US


Agustin_0 wrote:
Oh thanks so much guys!! I resized to 800px wide and used Save for web and everything looks great now!

@Krunoslav: I did what you said and the colors changed to the ones that resulted once I uploaded my images to MM. I'm using Chrome for mac and Photoshop CS6, and I don't know what that Proof Setup tool works for, but the methods provided by the others worked like a charm anyway.

Thanks everyone, again!

What you were seeing was probably a non tagged image, so the browser did not know how to read it, saving for web converts and taggs the image with sRGB that is considered web standard. But people with wide gamut monitors or monitors that don't default to sRGB have issues  with images that are not tagged. Maybe MM strips down the profile and Chrome can't show the colors properly since it doesn't have embed profile but instead it defaults to what every monitor is. This can cause nasty color problems. But you fixed it so it doesn't matter anymore. smile

Jan 11 13 12:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Nick82
Posts: 3
Corunna, Michigan, US


One of my images is greenish in the thumbnail preview but when enlarged a somewhat normal color.
Jan 12 13 05:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Peano
Posts: 4,106
Lynchburg, Virginia, US


Nick82 wrote:
One of my images is greenish in the thumbnail preview but when enlarged a somewhat normal color.

Somewhat? If your browser is color-managed, it'll look normal. If your browser isn't color managed, ProPhoto RGB is bad choice, and that's what you have embedded in the larger image.

Here's a comparison of ProPhoto RGB and sRGB as seen on a browsers without color management:

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9563/comparey.jpg

Moral of the story: If it's going on the web, convert it to sRGB.

Jan 12 13 05:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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