SensualThemes
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: No, governments created trademark law to serve humanity.
Funny, but I can find NO historical basis that shows that.
Neither can you.
The brits allowed Bass Ale to trademark the logo to serve humanity, or to prevent crappy competitors from runining the company? Methinks the owners of bass asked the crown for help
The old Roman swordmaker was protecting humanity or encouraging repeat business when he marked his swords?
Because it's not going to stay at life plus 70. It's going to get longer and longer and longer. And that violates the spirit of why it exists and you should protest that.
SensualThemes
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: Because it's not going to stay at life plus 70. It's going to get longer and longer and longer. And that violates the spirit of why it exists and you should protest that.
I disagree. As long as it is renewable, and a company has use to renew, they should be allowed to do so.
Once renewal doesn't have value it will expire...and go to Pd
If Ihave an image making my grandkids money in 150 yrs....Iwill have sodone my job
The purpose of a patent is to give the inventor a fair reward and return, but then to finally turn the thing over to become the base on which the next guy builds his invention.
SensualThemes
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
The purpose of a patent is to give the inventor a fair reward and return, but then to finally turn the thing over to become the base on which the next guy builds his invention.
So if Ipatent an item and in 200 years that item is still profitable, Ishould lose it?
People BASE THINGS off patented items all the time. It's COPYING THEM that is prohibited.
SensualThemes
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: Then why do generic drugs exist?
The same reason Ican buy a generic and fully legal version of a current song for use in my ads, and not from the author. Because the original furthered the public good so much someone found a legal way to clone it...just different enough
THEY DID THE CLONE TO MAKE MONEY. NOT FOR PUBLIC GOOD
That's america
But that shouldn't prevent me from selling my original
Pinups4 wrote: But that shouldn't prevent me from selling my original
You have this all quite wrong.
A patent is a detailed explanation on paper in balck and white about how to copy a product. It comes with the caveat that it is illegal to copy the product for, say, 20 years.
After 20 years you can copy it all you want. The directions for HOW to copy it are right in the patent.
SensualThemes
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Swoyersville, Pennsylvania, US
NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: You have this all quite wrong.
A patent is a detailed explanation on paper in balck and white about how to copy a product. It comes with the caveat that it is illegal to copy the product for, say, 20 years.
After 20 years you can copy it all you want. The directions for HOW to copy it are right in the patent.
How long after sony's patented walkman did knockoffs hit
the street? Far under 20 years.
Ipad? Months
Ginsu knives?lol
Name an invention that sold and it was copied immediately.
Underlying our trademark policy is the general law of trademarks. Trademarks exist to help consumers identify, and organizations publicize, the source of products. Some organizations make better products than others; over time, consumers begin to associate those organizations (and their trademarks) with quality. When such organizations permit others to place their trademarks on goods of lesser quality, they find that consumer trust evaporates quickly. That's the precise situation that Mozilla seeks to avoid. People's trust in our name and products is crucial to us—especially, when it comes to intangible products like software, trust is all consumers have to decide on which product to choose. We also are the caretakers of the trust our community members have placed in us. We created this Trademark Policy to protect both the public's and our community's trust in the Mozilla Marks.
To protect the interests of trademark owners in many new contexts,
trademark law has expanded and uprooted the doctrine from its
policy of protecting consumers. To facilitate this expansion,
consumer interests are often ignored or manipulated to conform to
the interests of mark owners. This Article introduces consumer
investment in trademarks as a model to bring public interests back
into trademark doctrine.
Use of the consumer investment model would keep trademark doctrine on a
principled path that preserves the public interest in using marks as
information tools. The model offers a new way of examining
difficult issues involving the unauthorized use of brands on the...
Trademark law has long been recognized as serving two purposes — protecting
consumers from being confused or deceived about the source of goods or
services in the marketplace, and encouraging merchants to stand behind their
goods or services by protecting the goodwill they have developed in their trademarks.
As the Supreme Court has noted...
From its common law roots to the modern Lanham Act,3 trademark
law has served the two, usually parallel, goals of protecting consumers
and protecting the sellers they patronize.4 More than sixty
years ago, the Senate Committee on Patents described trademark law
as, on the one hand, “protect[ing] the public so that it may be confident
that, in purchasing a product . . . , it will get the product which it
asks for and wants to get,” and, on the other hand, protecting a trademark
owner’s expenditure of “energy, time, and money in presenting
to the public the product . . . from . . . misappropriation by pirates and
cheats.”5
Though trademark law’s “true” original purpose is debated,6 the
consumer-protection and seller-protection stories both have long pedigrees.
7 This is unsurprising, as they are often described as flip sides of
the same coin.8
SensualThemes
Posts: 3,018
Swoyersville, Pennsylvania, US
NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: Underlying our trademark policy is the general law of trademarks. Trademarks exist to help consumers identify, and organizations publicize, the source of products. Some organizations make better products than others; over time, consumers begin to associate those organizations (and their trademarks) with quality. When such organizations permit others to place their trademarks on goods of lesser quality, they find that consumer trust evaporates quickly. That's the precise situation that Mozilla seeks to avoid. People's trust in our name and products is crucial to us—especially, when it comes to intangible products like software, trust is all consumers have to decide on which product to choose. We also are the caretakers of the trust our community members have placed in us. We created this Trademark Policy to protect both the public's and our community's trust in the Mozilla Marks.
SensualThemes
Posts: 3,018
Swoyersville, Pennsylvania, US
NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: Purposes of Trademark Law
From its common law roots to the modern Lanham Act,3 trademark
law has served the two, usually parallel, goals of protecting consumers
and protecting the sellers they patronize.4 More than sixty
years ago, the Senate Committee on Patents described trademark law
as, on the one hand, “protect[ing] the public so that it may be confident
that, in purchasing a product . . . , it will get the product which it
asks for and wants to get,” and, on the other hand, protecting a trademark
owner’s expenditure of “energy, time, and money in presenting
to the public the product . . . from . . . misappropriation by pirates and
cheats.”5
Though trademark law’s “true” original purpose is debated,6 the
consumer-protection and seller-protection stories both have long pedigrees.
7 This is unsurprising, as they are often described as flip sides of
the same coin.8
I don't think Rolex are to bothered. If your buying a Rolex then you'll know how they work and what to look out for.
So that's why they got sued a factory in Thailand and not only won a large award but got the court to give them the right to see the factory's books and control who the products of that factory are sold to?
You're trading on the fact that if I find one or two people that say not that I'm wrong, but that both are of equal weight, that I actually have the balls to post it.
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