I've been asked for a quick cell phone pic before a shoot before (even though my portfolio pics aren't touched up, and I don't wear much makeup) but it's whatever. If it makes them feel more comfortable shooting with me, I don't have a problem with it. Taking pics of my naked butt and sending them to someone I've never met, on the other hand, would make me a little uncomfortable. It's really up to you. If you really want to work with this photographer, and you think it could cost you the shoot, maybe you should. Unless you really feel strongly against it, or this guy is giving you creep vibes.
A)I can see why someone would want to "see" the area in question I think a description doesnt really cut it. For example describe the color blue without referring to the color of other objects
B)If you dont want to hassle with photos tell the photographers that
C")Yes they could have a legitimate concern that your appearance isn't suitable for their work
D)A really close up detail shot of skin isnt fappable in my book
E)Yes there are possible technical reasons Example if I have a model where I am trying to cover "flaws" as opposed to one that has "perfect" skin my lighting choices will be different.
Your profile specifies you do nudes but you portfolio has one nude shot and that's tight topless. You're negotiating a bodyscape shoot. IMO, it's not unreasonable to ask for shots of your stretch marks. The photographer is probably just wanting to know how much postprocessing work your body will require.
If you're worried about the photographer wanting fap material, maybe you should reconsider doing nude work.
I have been doing this for over 40 years. If I am going to pay a model or fly her in from out of town, I often will not book her without seeing her nude first (assuming that it is for a nude shoot). A girl can look a lot different with her clothes off than with her clothes on. I don't care how well you describe yourself.
Yes, Polaroids or cellphone images are fine. They need not be professional so long as they are clear.
If it is for a local group shoot, or the rare TF, I really don't care. If money is on the line, then I don't want surprises. Of course, for local models, if it is for a major project, I will be meeting them at the studio before I book them as well.
I can't tell you if these guys do or do not have ulterior motives. I can tell you that you would never get into Playboy if they haven't seen you nude. For any kind of major project, you won't work for me unless I have seen you in advance as well.
Yeah, the more I think about it... this guy is going to see you naked anyway, it's not that big of a deal. And a LCD flash should get them to show up, I don't think it would be as big of an endeavor as you describe.
illusion studios wrote: "He wants me to photograph them so he can see what they look like, even though when he asked I described them to the enth degree"
Some Photographers can get a better idea by "seeing" what the stretch marks look like rather than what they look like by being described.
I can understand that, but what I don't understand is why he would agree to the shoot and set the date when he knew I had stretch marks, but now, all of the sudden, he needs to see them up close. We've been planning the shoot for weeks, and the info about my stretch marks has been on my bio the whole time. But only as of today did he mention needing to see a picture of them before we shoot.
Just to be clear, if this is a legit request that people make all the time and there is a perfectly good reason for it, then I have no problem taking the pictures.
Orca Bay Images wrote: Your profile specifies you do nudes but you portfolio has one nude shot and that's tight topless. You're negotiating a bodyscape shoot. IMO, it's not unreasonable to ask for shots of your stretch marks. The photographer is probably just wanting to know how much postprocessing work your body will require.
If you're worried about the photographer wanting fap material, maybe you should reconsider doing nude work.
The part about fapping was supposed to be a joke. Since I would be taking the pictures really close you wouldn't be able to see if a picture of my arm or my butt anyway. I'll remove it since its not coming across like that.
After having a model show up for a shoot involving nude work who didn't bother to mention pre-shoot having had a child since the photos in her portfolio were made, with the result being we couldn't do topless photos without both hands doing Wonder Bra duties, I have asked models who don't have current topless photos to send me self-portraits. And while I have not used these photos as a reason to cancel a shoot, I have changed the nature of one shoot from nude to implied based on what baby and gravity had done.
In most cases stretch marks and the like can be photoshopped. I worked with one model who claimed to have a scar on her forehead that I couldn't see in real life or in her photos, but I retouched it "away" to make her happy. But I am not capable of making models thinner or breasts perkier, so when models don't have current body shots I frequently request them, for the same reason as I'd request naked face shots.
You mention in your bio about people not reading them(I agree most dont)...Maybe he just read the details and is wondering whats in store for the shoot.
Sounds like you have made your mind already this guy is evil ???
GPS Studio Services wrote: I have been doing this for over 40 years. If I am going to pay a model or fly her in from out of town, I often will not book her without seeing her nude first (assuming that it is for a nude shoot). A girl can look a lot different with her clothes off than with her clothes on. I don't care how well you describe yourself.
Yes, Polaroids or cellphone images are fine. They need not be professional so long as they are clear.
If it is for a local group shoot, or the rare TF, I really don't care. If money is on the line, then I don't want surprises. Of course, for local models, if it is for a major project, I will be meeting them at the studio before I book them as well.
I can't tell you if these guys do or do not have ulterior motives. I can tell you that you would never get into Playboy if they haven't seen you nude. For any kind of major project, you won't work for me unless I have seen you in advance as well.
No money whatsoever is being exchanged.
I'm not worried about being seen nude. I have no problem providing the pictures if this is a reasonable request.
You mention in your bio about people not reading them(I agree most dont)...Maybe he just read the details and is wondering whats in store for the shoot.
Sounds like you have made your mind already this guy is evil ???
I'm really not trying to come across like that. Its just that in the beginning of planning I assumed that before setting a date to work with me that he would have read my bio. I understand not reading stuff before you message somebody, but once a date has been set and you are going to do actual work with the person, I don't see why someone wouldn't do their research until the very last stages of planning. Why set a date with me if he wasn't 100% sure I'd be right for the project he has in mind? His request came out of left field and seems like something that he should have asked me before he even set a date to work with me, if he is worried that my stretch marks will make me all wrong for the project.
Jordan L Duncan wrote: I can understand that, but what I don't understand is why he would agree to the shoot and set the date when he knew I had stretch marks, but now, all of the sudden, he needs to see them up close. We've been planning the shoot for weeks, and the info about my stretch marks has been on my bio the whole time. But only as of today did he mention needing to see a picture of them before we shoot.
Just to be clear, if this is a legit request that people make all the time and there is a perfectly good reason for it, then I have no problem taking the pictures.
Yes, there can be perfectly legitimate reasons for asking, but I agree that it is odd that he agreed to the shoot and then asked. The few times I've had to make such a request, it was before setting a date.
I can understand that, but what I don't understand is why he would agree to the shoot and set the date when he knew I had stretch marks, but now, all of the sudden, he needs to see them up close. We've been planning the shoot for weeks, and the info about my stretch marks has been on my bio the whole time. But only as of today did he mention needing to see a picture of them before we shoot.
Just to be clear, if this is a legit request that people make all the time and there is a perfectly good reason for it, then I have no problem taking the pictures.
Sounds like he is hesitant about the whole idea now. Maybe the photographer is unsure of himself. Who knows! Since you did tell him upfront about the marks, He should've asked for photos of them then, Not after setting the date etc.. If you really want to shoot with him, Take some cell phone shots and send them. If you're worried about the whole idea, Cancel the shoot.
I have missed details before that I caught when taking a 2-3rd look at a bio
There are things on the photographers end you may not realize..Like how many models this guy might have in the booking phase at the same time.
Other reasons you dont know about that are legit.
This is the reason I select seasoned or experienced models in this area for my nude projects, portfolios are loaded with what I need.
If I was to shoot with you I would do the same thing. I shoot mainly film and photoshoping is out of the equation. Even if I was shooting digital, it would be great to see what I was going to work with but most recent general appearance is suffice to inspire how I would like to photograph you... It's not a wild request being that your port is void of any reference.
a picture is worth a thousand words. if you mention it in your bio it should be visible in your portfolio or you should be willing to send images upon request. some guys don't know photoshop or don't own photoshop or don't want to spend all day in photoshop. they have a right to choose models where the skin is good so they won't have to do much retouching. of course they may not realize that skin can change (we've seen that on high school seniors in just a couple days time).
If you are doing work where those parts of your body are going to be photographed, and you do not have photos that illustrate what the photographer can expect, then it could be a completely legitimate request.
Without more information, such as red flags from the photographer indicating reasons for you to be suspicious of motives, it sounds like it is a reasonable and legitimate request that matches the context of the potential shoot.
If that explanation matches with your thinking and assessment of the situation, I think we have the answer, yes?
Art Silva Photography wrote: This is the reason I select seasoned or experienced models in this area for my nude projects, portfolios are loaded with what I need.
If I was to shoot with you I would do the same thing. I shoot mainly film and photoshoping is out of the equation. Even if I was shooting digital, it would be great to see what I was going to work with but most recent general appearance is suffice to inspire how I would like to photograph you... It's not a wild request being that your port is void of any reference.
This is the response I was hoping to get. Thank you very much for your honesty.
twoharts wrote: a picture is worth a thousand words. if you mention it in your bio it should be visible in your portfolio or you should be willing to send images upon request. some guys don't know photoshop or don't own photoshop or don't want to spend all day in photoshop. they have a right to choose models where the skin is good so they won't have to do much retouching. of course they may not realize that skin can change (we've seen that on high school seniors in just a couple days time).
I have no problem providing the pictures, it would not embarrass or upset me for someone else to see them. I just am not familiar with this type of request which is why I wanted to ask for advice on this topic. In fact, I plan on saving the pictures so that in the future if someone asks me for stretch mark pics again, I will have some already on hand.
I 100% agree with you. If I am not right for the project then I understand that. My feelings won't be hurt. But I assumed that when he set a date to work with me that he had chosen me for his project, stretch marks and all. I don't think it was wrong of me to assume that. Now that the shoot is approaching, he suddenly wants to see pictures of them, which threw me. I suppose he could have his reasons, which might be to do with light or posing. Hopefully he won't decide to cancel the shoot based on my stretch marks but if he does, then oh well. I won't be upset, but I will feel as if he should have requested the pics early on before ever setting a shoot date.
After receiving all of this information, I now realize how important it is for him to have a visual reference and I will be taking the pictures in the morning and sending them.
DougBPhoto wrote: If you are doing work where those parts of your body are going to be photographed, and you do not have photos that illustrate what the photographer can expect, then it could be a completely legitimate request.
Without more information, such as red flags from the photographer indicating reasons for you to be suspicious of motives, it sounds like it is a reasonable and legitimate request that matches the context of the potential shoot.
If that explanation matches with your thinking and assessment of the situation, I think we have the answer, yes?
Yep. I think you are right. I have no received any other red flags. I just am not familiar with being asked for pictures like that. But now I am and I know what to do from now on.
Thank you very much. I appreciate your honest answer and respectful tone.
illusion studios wrote: Some Photographers can get a better idea by "seeing" what the stretch marks look like rather than what they look like by being described.
aw, c'mon, this is the visual arts! somebody who can't visualize gotta make you wonder!?!
Jordan L Duncan wrote: I'm really not trying to come across like that. Its just that in the beginning of planning I assumed that before setting a date to work with me that he would have read my bio. I understand not reading stuff before you message somebody, but once a date has been set and you are going to do actual work with the person, I don't see why someone wouldn't do their research until the very last stages of planning. Why set a date with me if he wasn't 100% sure I'd be right for the project he has in mind? His request came out of left field and seems like something that he should have asked me before he even set a date to work with me, if he is worried that my stretch marks will make me all wrong for the project.
That would be nice, but . . .
I've had models set up shoots with me, and gotten five or six cycles of messages in, before the got around to saying that they don't want to shoot nudes. I mean, LOOK AT MY PORT!!!!
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