I believe it's a big deal because people are making it a big deal. It's the first shock of finding out, but after awhile it'd be like...oh big deal.
If someone illegally hooked up video tapes in someones house and was recording a woman having sex with her husband and they broadcast it all over the net...should this woman be fired if she's a teacher because kids can see these videos?
I remember one time at a place I worked at a girl had a partial birth abortion...I think she was nearly 6 months along...these abortions are...well anyways it went around work and a lot of people were having a hard time respecting her after that. No one wanted to listen to her and anyone and everyone knew about something she told a woman there who was supposed to be a friend.
So anyways one day the owner of the company came out and said that people's personal choices don't mean that they aren't suited to be a boss there...and that anyone who can't respect their bosses or was talking about someone's personal business (and we knew who he meant)...would be the ones to go.
You better believe after that we all stfu. I can see where this was different but the point is once the boss put his foot down...it made a difference. The fact that people are going out of their way to bring up someone on the net from this woman's past and no one really knows why she had to do what she did...and we look down on her? That needs to change IMO because it was nobody's fucking business to begin with.
I get your 'what if' scenario.
Not cool do dig up someone's past if they are doing their job well.
Not fair for children to see their teacher in that light either.
-Ira wrote: Should not happen. Our puritanical society strikes again.
Suppose I am morally against alcohol. If I found out my child's teacher used and sold alcohol (in a legal manner) could I insist they be fired?
If the teacher signed a morals clause, which are usually pretty vague, just stuff about bring disrepute to the school, then yes you could.
Choices have consequences.
And I really question whether she should be teaching students simply because anyone with half a brain in their head would know that such stuff in their past is likely to cause trouble.
Thus she, if she had half a brain, went into this knowing she would most likely be bringing discord into the children's lives and the school if/when it got out.
Jojo West
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I find it hilarious at how us Americans claim to be so sexually liberated and adventurous. Our country was founded by prudes and controlled by Catholics and Christians. Anyone that honestly believes that we're sexually liberated needs a reality check. We blur CARTOON penises! Anyone who's sex doesn't fall along "conventional" lines (BDSM or anything like it) is thought to have some sort of horrible past filled with abuse. I can't begin to count how many times someone has said there's something wrong with people that like a little pain with their pleasure (the science behind it is awesome).
Yet we are surprised when a teacher is fired for having done porn at some point. Yeah there's the whole authority issue. Why aren't these kids parents getting upset at their children for searching for porn? Why was it ok for other teachers and administrators to have porn readily available on their phones? Why is ok for people to watch porn but the men and women that are in it are condemned for it? Because this country is just filled with hypocrites and bigots, that's why.
Jojo West wrote: I find it hilarious at how us Americans claim to be so sexually liberated and adventurous. Our country was founded by prudes and controlled by Catholics and Christians. Anyone that honestly believes that we're sexually liberated needs a reality check. We blur CARTOON penises! Anyone who's sex doesn't fall along "conventional" lines (BDSM or anything like it) is thought to have some sort of horrible past filled with abuse. I can't begin to count how many times someone has said there's something wrong with people that like a little pain with their pleasure (the science behind it is awesome).
Yet we are surprised when a teacher is fired for having done porn at some point. Yeah there's the whole authority issue. Why aren't these kids parents getting upset at their children for searching for porn? Why was it ok for other teachers and administrators to have porn readily available on their phones? Why is ok for people to watch porn but the men and women that are in it are condemned for it? Because this country is just filled with hypocrites and bigots, that's why.
Jojo West wrote: I find it hilarious at how us Americans claim to be so sexually liberated and adventurous. Our country was founded by prudes and controlled by Catholics and Christians. Anyone that honestly believes that we're sexually liberated needs a reality check. We blur CARTOON penises! Anyone who's sex doesn't fall along "conventional" lines (BDSM or anything like it) is thought to have some sort of horrible past filled with abuse. I can't begin to count how many times someone has said there's something wrong with people that like a little pain with their pleasure (the science behind it is awesome).
Yet we are surprised when a teacher is fired for having done porn at some point. Yeah there's the whole authority issue. Why aren't these kids parents getting upset at their children for searching for porn? Why was it ok for other teachers and administrators to have porn readily available on their phones? Why is ok for people to watch porn but the men and women that are in it are condemned for it? Because this country is just filled with hypocrites and bigots, that's why.
Who doesn't like porn!
*End rant*
Who doesn't understand that there is a place for it and places where it is neither the most productive nor appropriate place to be?
DMesser Photography wrote: This is getting ridiculous. Stacie halas was a science teacher, then the people in charge found out she had an 8 month career in porn in order to make some money during a financially difficult time. The porn industry is legal, it doesn't hurt anybody excelpt possibly the actors, she didn't rob a bank, she didn't kill anybody or rob anybody. She had sex on film. Evidently, those that were involved in getting her fired have lived a godly life. Maybe they should go back to religion in schools so they would remember that Christ said to the crowd who were going to stone Mary Magdalen that he without since shall cast the first stone. Evidently their were many in Oxnard that have lived a sinless life. She wasn't fired because she wasn't a good teacher. Also, teachers that go on strike do hurt others. They hurt the students who can't go to school during the strike. Maybe they should all be fired.
From this rant, it doesn't look as if you've ever worked a day in your life as an educator. If you had, you'd know that the parents can be bat-shit crazy & are hyperprotective of their children & will often create fauxtroversies because they can.
For better or worse, image matters in academia. The higher up you go (like if you're teaching college), the less people freak out about shit like that.
From this rant, it doesn't look as if you've ever worked a day in your life as an educator.
If you had, you'd know that the parents can be bat-shit crazy & are hyperprotective of their children. For better or worse, image matters in academia. The higher up you go (like if you're teaching college), the less people freak out about shit like that.
Educators and parents have a responsibility to the children in the growing years.
That doesn't make anyone batshit crazy, it makes them responsible.
The donkey show is not a part of the gig, past or present.
Yes there is. But as far as I can tell...she wasn't filming porn in the school, nor was she still filming porn.
It's ridiculous. Honestly why do I care if she did a couple guys on screen if she's doing a good job teaching, which is her CURRENT job?
How many teachers sleep with a different guy every weekend when they go out? (I know plenty)...how is that different, better or worse? How many of them do drugs (I know plenty of those too)? Or even worse, how many teachers are pedophiles?
If your kid's teacher did porn when she was 20 and you found out because your kid was searching for porn, you should be addressing the issue of "wtf were you looking for porn at your age" lol.
Jojo West
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Jules NYC wrote: Sex is awesome.
Porn doesn't do it for me.
It's just as entertaining as Reality TV
Lol, I don't watch it often or the regular cookie cutter stuff, I rather make my own. Hopefully no one will ever hack our home computer or we're screwed, no pun intended.
Yes there is. But as far as I can tell...she wasn't filming porn in the school, nor was she still filming porn.
It's ridiculous. Honestly why do I care if she did a couple guys on screen if she's doing a good job teaching, which is her CURRENT job?
How many teachers sleep with a different guy every weekend when they go out? (I know plenty)...how is that different, better or worse? How many of them do drugs (I know plenty of those too)? Or even worse, how many teachers are pedophiles?
If your kid's teacher did porn when she was 20 and you found out because your kid was searching for porn, you should be addressing the issue of "wtf were you looking for porn at your age" lol.
I met a teacher that was a Dominatrix and even she had the common sense to separate the two worlds. If you are a teacher, you can risk your job period.
Can't shelter your kid from the world forever.
I doubt I'd would have wanted to see a teacher I respected with a mouth full of jizz as a kid.
As a teenager I would have laughed my ass off and showed all my friends.
Jojo West wrote: If your kid's teacher did porn when she was 20 and you found out because your kid was searching for porn, you should be addressing the issue of "wtf were you looking for porn at your age" lol.
Jojo West wrote: If your kid's teacher did porn when she was 20 and you found out because your kid was searching for porn, you should be addressing the issue of "wtf were you looking for porn at your age" lol.
As anyone who has ever used a search engine knows, one need not be looking for porn to find it.
People should get their facts straight before going off on a subject. Here are the facts, and they are not in dispute.
The teacher, Stacie Halas worked in porn WHILE WORKING AS A TEACHER in a different school system.
In a BTS video she talked about what it was like to be a full-time employed teacher and porn star. She talked about how exciting it was because it was very dangerous and it would be the end of her career if anyone found out.
"Halas was then asked, “Do you think if they find out you’ll get fired?” She answered, “Questionable, probably.” The interviewer then asked if she had worked really hard to get her teaching post. “I did work really hard,” said Halas.
"In the behind-the-scenes clip, Halas, who used the stage name “Tiffany Six,” is asked by the interviewer whether her film career was “risky.” “It is risky, very risky for me. ‘Cause I am a teacher,” answered Halas, who was then working at a California public school (where she was employed prior to her Oxnard teaching post).
It isn't that she did this long before becoming a teacher. She did it AS A TEACHER. She even talked about it on camera. She is stupid. She knew the rules of the career and she broke them. She deserved to get fired. I don't think there is anything wrong with working in porn if its what you want. But it is silly to think you can do it while you are a teacher, talk about it on camera and then act shocked when employment laws are enforced.
Tim Little Photography wrote: People should get their facts straight before going off on a subject. Here are the facts, and they are not in dispute.
The teacher, Stacie Halas worked in porn WHILE WORKING AS A TEACHER in a different school system.
In a BTS video she talked about what it was like to be a full-time employed teacher and porn star. She talked about how exciting it was because it was very dangerous and it would be the end of her career if anyone found out.
"Halas was then asked, “Do you think if they find out you’ll get fired?” She answered, “Questionable, probably.” The interviewer then asked if she had worked really hard to get her teaching post. “I did work really hard,” said Halas.
"In the behind-the-scenes clip, Halas, who used the stage name “Tiffany Six,” is asked by the interviewer whether her film career was “risky.” “It is risky, very risky for me. ‘Cause I am a teacher,” answered Halas, who was then working at a California public school (where she was employed prior to her Oxnard teaching post).
It isn't that she did this long before becoming a teacher. She did it AS A TEACHER. She even talked about it on camera. She is stupid. She knew the rules of the career and she broke them. She deserved to get fired. I don't think there is anything wrong with working in porn if its what you want. But it is silly to think you can do it while you are a teacher, talk about it on camera and then act shocked when employment laws are enforced.
If the teacher signed a morals clause, which are usually pretty vague, just stuff about bring disrepute to the school, then yes you could.
Choices have consequences.
And I really question whether she should be teaching students simply because anyone with half a brain in their head would know that such stuff in their past is likely to cause trouble.
Thus she, if she had half a brain, went into this knowing she would most likely be bringing discord into the children's lives and the school if/when it got out.
That right there gets her the boot in my book.
If she signed a morals clause, she's doubly out.
I will state that when I started doing nudes and cam girl stuff...I pretty much ruled out working with kids. Could it still cause problems in my future? Maybe, but it's still my own damn business
Tim Little Photography wrote: People should get their facts straight before going off on a subject. Here are the facts, and they are not in dispute.
The teacher, Stacie Halas worked in porn WHILE WORKING AS A TEACHER in a different school system.
In a BTS video she talked about what it was like to be a full-time employed teacher and porn star. She talked about how exciting it was because it was very dangerous and it would be the end of her career if anyone found out.
"Halas was then asked, “Do you think if they find out you’ll get fired?” She answered, “Questionable, probably.” The interviewer then asked if she had worked really hard to get her teaching post. “I did work really hard,” said Halas.
"In the behind-the-scenes clip, Halas, who used the stage name “Tiffany Six,” is asked by the interviewer whether her film career was “risky.” “It is risky, very risky for me. ‘Cause I am a teacher,” answered Halas, who was then working at a California public school (where she was employed prior to her Oxnard teaching post).
It isn't that she did this long before becoming a teacher. She did it AS A TEACHER. She even talked about it on camera. She is stupid. She knew the rules of the career and she broke them. She deserved to get fired. I don't think there is anything wrong with working in porn if its what you want. But it is silly to think you can do it while you are a teacher, talk about it on camera and then act shocked when employment laws are enforced.
Jojo West wrote: If your kid's teacher did porn when she was 20 and you found out because your kid was searching for porn, you should be addressing the issue of "wtf were you looking for porn at your age" lol.
It only takes a few students to get the ball rolling. It's totally possible for children to know their teacher was a porn star without actually seeing the porn, kids talk.
The answer I think many kids would give to the "wtf were you looking for porn at your age" question is: "my classmate told me to look (or showed me) because it was our teacher".
JessieLeigh wrote: It only takes a few students to get the ball rolling. It's totally possible for children to know their teacher was a porn star without actually seeing the porn, kids talk.
The answer I think many kids would give to the "wtf were you looking for porn at your age" question is: "my classmate told me to look (or showed me) because it was our teacher".
It only takes a few students to get the ball rolling. It's totally possible for children to know their teacher was a porn star without actually seeing the porn, kids talk.
The answer I think many kids would give to the "wtf were you looking for porn at your age" question is: "my classmate told me to look (or showed me) because it was our teacher".
And that'll have a really negative affect on kids, because so few of them are having sex nowadays...
Jojo West
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Jules NYC wrote: Can't shelter your kid from the world forever.
I doubt I'd would have wanted to see a teacher I respected with a mouth full of jizz as a kid.
As a teenager I would have laughed my ass off and showed all my friends.
No need to shelter, it's called educating your children. The internet was very much around when I was a kid, and teenager. My father had the "naughty" channel at home and no "parental lock". Did I ever watch it, nope, I knew there were rules in the house. Did I search for porn, nope, I knew there were rules in the house. Laughed your ass off? Ha I think more like fapfest, lol. Maybe this is about all those old guys in the school board being pissed off because their teachers growing up weren't freaks? You know they all had that one teacher they fantasized about, lol.
JessieLeigh wrote: The answer I think many kids would give to the "wtf were you looking for porn at your age" question is: "my classmate told me to look (or showed me) because it was our teacher".
Which would in turn get them punished because they were dumb enough to do it, lol. Peer pressure is a pile of bollocks.
Tim Little Photography wrote: It isn't that she did this long before becoming a teacher. She did it AS A TEACHER. She even talked about it on camera. She is stupid. She knew the rules of the career and she broke them. She deserved to get fired. I don't think there is anything wrong with working in porn if its what you want. But it is silly to think you can do it while you are a teacher, talk about it on camera and then act shocked when employment laws are enforced.
No need to shelter, it's called educating your children. The internet was very much around when I was a kid, and teenager. My father had the "naughty" channel at home and no "parental lock". Did I ever watch it, nope, I knew there were rules in the house. Did I search for porn, nope, I knew there were rules in the house. Laughed your ass off? Ha I think more like fapfest, lol. Maybe this is about all those old guys in the school board being pissed off because their teachers growing up weren't freaks? You know they all had that one teacher they fantasized about, lol.
And that'll have a really negative affect on kids, because so few of them are having sex nowadays...
It most likely would have a negative impact on their learning, if they are too distracted by images of their teacher having anal sex to pay attention to what is being taught.
I am drawing a mental picture here of the teacher wearing a really nice lacy bra, and having her blouse unbuttoned "just so," occasionally leaning over her desk to make a lesson point. She would have the little bastards' rapt attention all right!
Jojo West
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JessieLeigh wrote:
It most likely would have a negative impact on their learning, if they are too distracted by images of their teacher having anal sex to pay attention to what is being taught.
They'd be doing that anyway if the teacher was attractive, lol.
It most likely would have a negative impact on their learning, if they are too distracted by images of their teacher having anal sex to pay attention to what is being taught.
Most teenage boys are having thoughts of anal sex whether its their teacher or not.
Jules NYC wrote: Educators and parents have a responsibility to the children in the growing years.
That doesn't make anyone batshit crazy, it makes them responsible.
The donkey show is not a part of the gig, past or present.
There's a difference between being responsible for the child & completely losing it.
A parent condoning their child plagarisizing a term because Little Johnny (& I quote) "was just so busy w/ all his activities it was the only way to complete it on time." God forbid one of those activities be time & resource management.
Or in some modified sports writeup, having a parent bitch that their child was only mentioned 13 times during the season while Child A was mentioned 17 times & another was mentioned 22 times. I mean seriously, you're crazy enough to tally each game write-up (which was more than 10) w/ how many mentions your kid has while comparing it to all the others. Do you have that much time on your hands?
Or the refs needing to call the police & escort an unruly parent off the field because he's dissatisified w/ how much his modified soccer kid is playing. Like seriously, its MODIFIED. The emphasis is skill development. You're 13 year old is not all of a sudden going to making the leap to varsity or the collegiate level.
Course you look at some of those kids & scratch your head wondering how they ever got that way. Then you meet some of the parents & it completely explains everything.
There's a difference between being responsible for the child & completely losing it.
A parent condoning their child plagarisizing a term because Little Johnny (& I quote) "was just so busy w/ all his activities it was the only way to complete it on time."
Or in some modified sports writeup, having a parent bitch that their child was only mentioned 13 times during the season while Child A was mentioned 17 times & another was mentioned 22 times. I mean seriously, you're crazy enough to tally each game write-up (which was more than 10) w/ how many mentions your kid has while comparing it to all the others. Do you have that much time on your hands?
Or the refs needing to call the police & escort an unruly parent off the field because he's dissatisified w/ how much his modified soccer kid is playing. Like seriously, its MODIFIED. The emphasis is skill development. You're 13 year old is not all of a sudden going to making the leap to varsity or the collegiate level.
Course you look at some of those kids & scratch your head wondering how they ever got that way. Then you meet some of the parents & it completely explains everything.
I hear you.
Some parents are really 'out-there'.
I've heard every wacko story (many friends that are teachers).
I think with general learning and extra cirricular activities there is enough to deal with minus the general theme of this thread:)
PS, one of my teacher friends got hit by a soccerball (by intention? hummm pfff) by a kid with no proper parental guidance...
She blacked out and had to go through intensive speech therapy and relearning basic stuff because the ball hit her in the head so bad.
I will state that when I started doing nudes and cam girl stuff...I pretty much ruled out working with kids. Could it still cause problems in my future? Maybe, but it's still my own damn business
Tim Little Photography wrote: People should get their facts straight before going off on a subject. Here are the facts, and they are not in dispute.
The teacher, Stacie Halas worked in porn WHILE WORKING AS A TEACHER in a different school system.
In a BTS video she talked about what it was like to be a full-time employed teacher and porn star. She talked about how exciting it was because it was very dangerous and it would be the end of her career if anyone found out.
"Halas was then asked, “Do you think if they find out you’ll get fired?” She answered, “Questionable, probably.” The interviewer then asked if she had worked really hard to get her teaching post. “I did work really hard,” said Halas.
"In the behind-the-scenes clip, Halas, who used the stage name “Tiffany Six,” is asked by the interviewer whether her film career was “risky.” “It is risky, very risky for me. ‘Cause I am a teacher,” answered Halas, who was then working at a California public school (where she was employed prior to her Oxnard teaching post).
It isn't that she did this long before becoming a teacher. She did it AS A TEACHER. She even talked about it on camera. She is stupid. She knew the rules of the career and she broke them. She deserved to get fired. I don't think there is anything wrong with working in porn if its what you want. But it is silly to think you can do it while you are a teacher, talk about it on camera and then act shocked when employment laws are enforced.
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