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Looknsee Photography
Posts: 20,889
Portland, Oregon, US


Ryan Leaf kicked out of drug treatment center.

What a loser!

But then again, I figure that people like Ryan Leaf & Len Bias are why sports teams are more careful when they draft athletes.
Jan 17 13 01:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Orca Bay Images
Posts: 32,233
Lodi, California, US


::cough::JAMARCUS::cough::
Jan 17 13 02:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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K E E L I N G
Posts: 39,773
Peoria, Illinois, US


Looknsee Photography wrote:
Ryan Leaf kicked out of drug treatment center.

What a loser!

But then again, I figure that people like Ryan Leaf & Len Bias are why sports teams are more careful when they draft athletes.

You may be a little confused about the Len Bias situation. 

But in theory I agree with you.  Anytime you are investing tens of millions of dollars in an individual you'd have to be a fool not to investigate the hell out of them.

Jan 17 13 02:20 pm  Link  Quote 
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ChrisFischerPhotography
Posts: 852
Otsego, Minnesota, US


The funniest part is that, before the '98 draft, there were legitimate debates over whether Peyton Manning or Ryan Leaf would be the better NFL QB.

The '98 season was also Randy Moss' rookie season, when the Vikings went 15-1. Damn, that season was good times. Well, until that FG in the NFC title game...
Jan 17 13 04:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Farenell Photography
Posts: 17,870
Albany, New York, US


ChrisFischerPhotography wrote:
The funniest part is that, before the '98 draft, there were legitimate debates over whether Peyton Manning or Ryan Leaf would be the better NFL QB.

I remember that!

The high stakes of the NFL is probably only the biggest casino'like crapshoot next to the modern day stock market.

Passing on perceived problem children can land you a bust like Lawrence Phillips. Or those perceived problem children can be complete gold like Warren Sapp.

Don't even get me started on the people that EVERYONE misses (in some cases like multiple times) like Tom Brady (taken in the 6th round in 2000) or Victor Cruz (going undrafted) or Kurt Warner (undrafted & spent a few year in the Arena League...or was it over in Europe).

Jan 17 13 08:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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billy badfinger
Posts: 806
Tampa, Florida, US


I'm a fan only cuz' he provides endless entertainment and laughs!!!
The guy had the world on a string...
Huge NFL contract,dating the daughter of another millionaire,living in a beautiful city...

Complete FAIL...

In a way,I kinda' blame the Chargers upper mngmt...they didn't pay attention to
some pretty glaring problems the kid had.
Jan 18 13 09:38 am  Link  Quote 
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K E E L I N G
Posts: 39,773
Peoria, Illinois, US


Farenell Photography wrote:

I remember that!

The high stakes of the NFL is probably only the biggest casino'like crapshoot next to the modern day stock market.

Passing on perceived problem children can land you a bust like Lawrence Phillips. Or those perceived problem children can be complete gold like Warren Sapp.

Don't even get me started on the people that EVERYONE misses (in some cases like multiple times) like Tom Brady (taken in the 6th round in 2000) or Victor Cruz (going undrafted) or Kurt Warner (undrafted & spent a few year in the Arena League...or was it over in Europe).

Didn't he actually spend a year bagging groceries?

Jan 18 13 09:38 am  Link  Quote 
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billy badfinger
Posts: 806
Tampa, Florida, US


I think Kurt Warner WAS actually bagging groceries at a Winn-Dixie or
Piggly-Wiggly when he got his phone call...Great story!!!

He's the anti-Leaf...
Jan 18 13 09:40 am  Link  Quote 
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37photog
Posts: 692
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US


K E E L I N G wrote:
Didn't he actually spend a year bagging groceries?

Warner did, yeah.  Or that's the story, might be embellished a bit, like he did it part time or the summer after college.

Always felt Leafs skyrocket to #2 pick was unwarranted.  He was basically a LB at QB.  Tim Tebow if Tebow had no running ability. But his team at Washington St had a great season, but I was a bit skeptical of the hype.  For me, I've seen too many QB busts if I were a GM, I would only draft QB's in the 2nd or 3rd round, unless its a late 1st rd pick like Matty Ice, Flacco or Rodgers.  Even a Top 5 pick is a 50% success rate (Tim Couch, Jamarcus Russell, Rick Mirer)

Jan 18 13 09:45 am  Link  Quote 
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