Her face expression I know it's cold but it looks like she's sucking in her stomach real hard and it makes her face look unflattering, also don't like her pose
It's all a bit contrived..
I really like the image! Beautiful model, location and light. The only things I would have changed would be, have the model shift her weight so the knee closest to the camera has the bend ( makes for a nicer s curve) and I would have ( if possible) moved to the left a bit to change the POV to eliminate her hand entering the dark area of the background...
In my view the biggest error in judgement on these is the usually the framing/composition.
Question: what is the shot about? The model? The environment? Both?
If it's going to be about both (which I believe it should be) then the environment should not be minimized. It should be large, and the model should exist within it. Something framed much wider with the model sitting on a thirds intersection would be immensely more interesting. A powerful pose as an isolated element against a vast wall of ice, with perhaps a dramatic angle - then you've got something.
Here the model isn't sharing the frame with the ice, she's dominating. While in the case of most model shots this is the right thing to do, but this I believe is one of the rare exceptions.
Looking at other images in your port, you seem to have followed this idea for other shots. I think those work a whole lot better. Perhaps this was a change for you compositionally.
I don't believe this set has been played out. If an ice scene has called "played out" then I don't what to call a white backdrop lol.
I dislike her pose, I don't know if its your editing or the model, but it looks like shes sucking her stomach in quite dramatically. Also the pose itself doesnt compliment the scene at all unfortunately.
You have an amazing location, and you stick a cheesy pinup model into it.
Seriously, the location just screams for art nudes. This image is just silly. What a waste of everyone's time and effort and putting the model through the pain of being so cold.
DAN CRUIKSHANK
Posts: 1,646
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
It isn't the strongest in the series.
IMO, the best shots in your frozen series are the shots that are slightly wider, and where the llama is interacting with the landscape. Those shots seem more impressive and authentic. This shot doesn't have the drama or intensity...
Looks like an inexperienced llama???
I would also lose the hat. The boots (I understand they are necessary) cause enough distraction as is.
I am slightly jealous of your frozen locations
ultimate dream
Posts: 837
London, England, United Kingdom
Doesn't work for me, is just a naked girl standing there. Not trying to be rude but anyone with an iphone would have capture the exact same thing if they were standing next to you.
lighting is flat, model seems too posed.
You have access to a wonderful location, try do something creative with it.
Am coming down hard on you because your B&W images are by far better than these ice shots of yours. Your B&W shots show so much creativity in them, how come you don't put the same amount of effort into these icy shots?
John Allan wrote: It's really an obvious and awkward cut-n-paste job.
If you're going to do this sort of thing, you need to really up your photoshop skills.
wow, you really think this is a cut and paste? maybe you should get rid of any digital device you own then.
Good Egg Productions wrote: You have an amazing location, and you stick a cheesy pinup model into it.
Seriously, the location just screams for art nudes. This image is just silly. What a waste of everyone's time and effort and putting the model through the pain of being so cold.
The location deserves better.
+100
smh
ETA: I just looked at your portfolio and some of your B&W location work from 2010 is really quite nice and in general terms 100x better than your newer colour stuff.
I have no idea why you decided to start shooting nonsense like this, and in hideous colour too, but stop. Just stop!
ETA: I just looked at your portfolio and some of your B&W location work from 2010 is really quite nice and in general terms 100x better than your newer colour stuff.
I have no idea why you decided to start shooting nonsense like this, and in hideous colour too, but stop. Just stop!
Anna Adrielle
Posts: 17,059
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium
not a fan. I think it looks cheap, and just says "hey, I got a cute girl to pose nude for me in the cold.". there's nothing more to it. Looks like something that would be on a cheap calendar of a local factory that makes icecubes or something like that.
what works is the location. a-ma-zing location. do it justice please
I look at this and keep thinking "auto-trader". I know the warm body/cold ice motif has been a hook for you but it seems like you're placing so much faith in that figure and setting relationship that you've stopped thinking about all the other aspects that go into creating an interesting or attractive image.
A quick look through your portfolio indicates both that you are stuck unproductively on producing repetitive variations of this type of image and that you are capable of much better work.
The best advice I can offer is that you should absolutely ban yourself from producing or displaying images of this type and concentrate on monochromatic works and small studies for a year or two.
I know you are asking about this one image but I feel this applies to all your work.
The difference between your frozen water to moving water it totally different. Your waterfall images are great, artist great light etc. However the ice images you seem to forget you're a great photographer and I say this kindly b/c your watefalls are great. Maybe think about what you are doing for the waterfalls and apply it to the ice images.
You have the models and great location work on the connection the models have to the viewer.
I think that nudes in nature are difficult because many times the two elements kind of ruin the other. In the ones of these that you have posted recently, I just keep thinking that I wishi could see more of the waterfall I wish you would pull back, or get rid of the model and get closer. You really need to play with scale more. Try having her be smaller and or larger in the frame. Show more waterfall. You really need to play with the interaction with the background.
Is this at starved rock? There are some majestic waterfalls out there, share the magisty with us. You are either too close or nor close enough.
Like I say art nudes in nature is very difficult, you have set up quite a challenge for yourself.
As far as your process do you test out camera and model locations before they disrobe? I think it would be helpful to test a lot of things out.
John Allan wrote: It's really an obvious and awkward cut-n-paste job.
If you're going to do this sort of thing, you need to really up your photoshop skills.
Michael Pandolfo wrote: When does this series end? 3+ years of models in front of frozen waterfalls? Is there really anything new to say? Different model...same day.
I dunno I think this idea could be really cool if done right, if op keeps pushing. I think op is a little blinded by the experience and is seeing more in these pictures than we are. If he can look at them objectively some real progress could be made quickly. I really want to see the pictures when the composition and light issues are solved. Seriously I think there is potential for some super awesome shots. (which is probably why I am being so wordy, and repeaty)
If op cares about my advice I would say do a shoot with out naked ness so there is more time for experimentation.
the model is alright looking, not great but has a nice body.. her facial expression and accessories are not working for me whatsoever. i love the location though... wish the lighting and pose were more dramatic and serious overall.
Things that work:
The background is pretty (though framed poorly)
Things that don't work:
The model looks awkwardly short in that setting/pose/boots
Weird hip piercings draw attention
Strained expression (probably from cold, maybe boredom)
Her skin is over edited
Boring pose for such a neat location
The fuck is she doing with her hat?
Bad cropping of the background
Looks like it was taken by a cellphone
pose isnt good
should have gotten more of the context in the shot around her to show more of the location, right now its not very convincing
the good: location
good attempt - try to hire better models next time
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