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MoRina
Posts: 5,797
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US


Veronica Paige wrote:
I am not referring to you or to posing nude as low-class. I am referring to low-class images I've seen all to often on mature models' portfolios.

A very quick check of the numbers here on MM....1700 women from age 40 - 70 have been active here in the last 2 months.  Almost 20 times that number of models under age 40 have been active in the last 3 DAYS.

A model over 40 does not have any competition among models in that age category!  Photographers looking to shoot women in that age group will shoot every single one they can possibly find.  Trust me - you being here does not mean that other models over 40 will lose work.

You do not have to pull down the stock of other models in order to boost your own stock up.  Using terms like "low-class work" is unnecessary and narrow minded.

Jan 31 13 01:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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fullmetalphotographer
Posts: 2,774
Fresno, California, US


I will say it this way there are several over 40 models that I would like to shoot. Part of is there is a strength of character in the face that the 20 somethings don't have. As far as plastic surgery I have seen where minor tune ups have been fine then there are the train wrecks like Janice Dickinson, were you go for the love god. What is http://assets.modelmayhem.com/images/smilies/scary.pngis that I have seen 20 somethings who, look like Bruce Campbell from "Escape from LA".

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsC/2587-21917.jpg
Jan 31 13 02:42 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Veronica Paige
Posts: 18
Staunton, Virginia, US


MoRina wrote:

A very quick check of the numbers here on MM....1700 women from age 40 - 70 have been active here in the last 2 months.  Almost 20 times that number of models under age 40 have been active in the last 3 DAYS.

A model over 40 does not have any competition among models in that age category!  Photographers looking to shoot women in that age group will shoot every single one they can possibly find.  Trust me - you being here does not mean that other models over 40 will lose work.

You do not have to pull down the stock of other models in order to boost your own stock up.  Using terms like "low-class work" is unnecessary and narrow minded.

Thank you for pointing out the above numbers. I hope this is, in fact, the case. I am doing a great deal to study the business of modeling and appreciate all views, details, feedback, insight, etc. Given that you have much more experience than I do, I'm thrilled that you would visit and engage this topic as it seems to be a ground-breaking area in the field of modeling as a whole.

I'm sorry if you took offense to what I said about "low-class" work. Since beginning this thread, I have had the great pleasure of connecting with other mature models & been given a great deal of exposure to different work by them & much better portfolios than hat I had previously seen. I've no issue with nudes, nude shoots, or the like & will be doing my own very soon.

I feel very strongly that I do not want to compete or try to keep up with the younger models. I'm looking for ways to differentiate myself, my look, my port, etc. This thread has lead me to explore some options I hadn't previously, as well as confirmed some ideas I've had.

Truly, I wish you all the best.

Jan 31 13 04:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Veronica Paige
Posts: 18
Staunton, Virginia, US


fullmetalphotographer wrote:
I will say it this way there are several over 40 models that I would like to shoot. Part of is there is a strength of character in the face that the 20 somethings don't have. As far as plastic surgery I have seen where minor tune ups have been fine then there are the train wrecks like Janice Dickinson, were you go for the love god. What is http://assets.modelmayhem.com/images/smilies/scary.pngis that I have seen 20 somethings who, look like Bruce Campbell from "Escape from LA".

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsC/2587-21917.jpg

Freaky stuff! Very scary.

When I was out in CA, I noticed a great deal more plastic surgery, injectables,

Jan 31 13 04:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 8,355
Olney, Maryland, US


Veronica Paige wrote:
Do I have to get plastic surgery or botox to compete?

What are the best ways to differentiate myself and my work as a model from the 20-somethings?

No.

43 is the new 20 something.

Veronica Paige wrote:
While I'm not opposed to doing nudes, I know I am much better suited to commercial work and the nude work looks better on the younger girls, anyway.

I've seen some gorgeous mature models here, but what I see from their ports are mostly pix that are better suited to younger models, making their age stand out a bit more (IMHO)

Not so.

Jan 31 13 04:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 8,355
Olney, Maryland, US


Essence of Imagery wrote:
To be quite honest, I'd like to get some more "mature" models in my portfolio.  They are the ones who represent my true customer base, not the girls who like to pose for the camera, but those who have the money to spend on creating art.

+1

Jan 31 13 04:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 8,355
Olney, Maryland, US


Veronica Paige wrote:
That said, where is the work?

How far is Staunton from Olney?

Jan 31 13 04:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
MoRina
Posts: 5,797
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US


Veronica Paige wrote:
I feel very strongly that I do not want to compete or try to keep up with the younger models. I'm looking for ways to differentiate myself, my look, my port, etc. This thread has lead me to explore some options I hadn't previously, as well as confirmed some ideas I've had.

See, just by virtue of being over 40 and not lying about your age, you ARE differentiated. But, that's a good thing. 

Decide what your goals and limits are and start testing out the waters... it will give you a reality check whether they are realistic and attainable.

Have fun and good luck!

Jan 31 13 04:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Quentin Skyking
Posts: 296
Lancaster, Massachusetts, US


Mature models are HAWT!
Jan 31 13 04:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Veronica Paige
Posts: 18
Staunton, Virginia, US


Quentin Skyking wrote:
Mature models are HAWT!

xoxo

Yes we are!

Jan 31 13 04:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ArtGlo
Posts: 506
Peru, Illinois, US


fullmetalphotographer wrote:
I will say it this way there are several over 40 models that I would like to shoot. Part of is there is a strength of character in the face that the 20 somethings don't have. As far as plastic surgery I have seen where minor tune ups have been fine then there are the train wrecks like Janice Dickinson, were you go for the love god. What is http://assets.modelmayhem.com/images/smilies/scary.pngis that I have seen 20 somethings who, look like Bruce Campbell from "Escape from LA".

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsC/2587-21917.jpg

Bruce looks much better than that now! LOL!

Jan 31 13 04:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Veronica Paige
Posts: 18
Staunton, Virginia, US


Mark Salo wrote:

How far is Staunton from Olney?

I think it's about 2 & 1/2 hours. I'm just off route 81. Do you know Staunton? I used to live in N. VA, but got out of the rat race. (The only way to win the rat race is to get the *blank* out!)

Jan 31 13 04:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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DivaEroticus
Posts: 14,679
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US


Veronica Paige wrote:

Thank you for pointing out the above numbers. I hope this is, in fact, the case. I am doing a great deal to study the business of modeling and appreciate all views, details, feedback, insight, etc. Given that you have much more experience than I do, I'm thrilled that you would visit and engage this topic as it seems to be a ground-breaking area in the field of modeling as a whole.

I'm sorry if you took offense to what I said about "low-class" work. Since beginning this thread, I have had the great pleasure of connecting with other mature models & been given a great deal of exposure to different work by them & much better portfolios than hat I had previously seen. I've no issue with nudes, nude shoots, or the like & will be doing my own very soon.

I feel very strongly that I do not want to compete or try to keep up with the younger models. I'm looking for ways to differentiate myself, my look, my port, etc. This thread has lead me to explore some options I hadn't previously, as well as confirmed some ideas I've had.

Truly, I wish you all the best.

Sorry, but working over 40 is NOT groundbreaking.  I'm 49.  I work nude and other genres on as regular a basis as my day job allows.  I'm natural and I'm flawed.

Jan 31 13 05:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Secilia
Posts: 2
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico


44 here.
Jan 31 13 05:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Veronica Paige
Posts: 18
Staunton, Virginia, US


Secilia wrote:
44 here.

Yes! Glad to see others on this thread. That was my hope all along - to get other "mature" llamas engaged in conversation. To pick your brains, hear your insights, support each other.

For all intents

Jan 31 13 07:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Veronica Paige
Posts: 18
Staunton, Virginia, US


DivaEroticus wrote:
Sorry, but working over 40 is NOT groundbreaking.  I'm 49.  I work nude and other genres on as regular a basis as my day job allows.  I'm natural and I'm flawed.

No apologies - you ARE  groundbreaker! Rock on!

Jan 31 13 07:29 pm  Link  Quote 
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evelinagalli
Posts: 16
Glendale, California, US


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