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Photographer
STUDIO 9
Posts: 2
Houston, Texas, US


Do models want to eventually be actors?  We ask because we produce films.
Jan 30 13 03:15 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Good Egg Productions
Posts: 15,440
Orlando, Florida, US


There's a very short shelf life on modeling.

Acting has no expiration date.



So if they want to stay in the industry, they SHOULD want to become actors.
Jan 30 13 03:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Awesome Headshots
Posts: 2,369
San Ramon, California, US


F I L M wrote:
Do models want to eventually be actors?  We ask because we produce films.

Most of the models who book me for comps have recently been asking for a headshot from their selection as well as their comp shots.

I don't think the model/actor correlation is anything new. Charlize Theron, Mark Wahlberg, Kim Basinger, Famke Jansen just to name a few.

big_smile

Jan 30 13 03:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
STUDIO 9
Posts: 2
Houston, Texas, US


yes.. and it should be promoted more on MM
Jan 30 13 03:29 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
varton
Posts: 2,307
New York, New York, US


F I L M wrote:
Do models want to eventually be actors?  We ask because we produce films.

The real question is not if they would want to be actors just for the asking, but if they really have any talent  useful to you in order to perform as actors or actresses.
I find that actors make better models for some of my shoot needs, but I doubt the opposite will work out effortlessly.
In this field it is not uncommon to see people with  the desire to tackle different things, but their mileage will vary.

Jan 30 13 04:28 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
MB JenB
Posts: 3,036
Clarksville, Tennessee, US


F I L M wrote:
Do models want to eventually be actors?  We ask because we produce films.

I'd like to practice this now.

Jan 30 13 04:49 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Phane
Posts: 2,029
Rockville, Maryland, US


My goal is to eventually act passion lies in acting
Jan 30 13 04:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Gianna Virginia
Posts: 178
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US


Yes, acting is one of my passions as well as writing. My goal is to act, model, and write full time.
Jan 30 13 05:21 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Brett Hunt
Posts: 1,797
Washington Court House, Ohio, US


most successful models are great actors. They preform with out a script
Jan 30 13 05:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rays Fine Art
Posts: 6,164
New York, New York, US


Under the best circumstances they are very much related fields.  Modeling is acting without words and dancing without music.  At least, good modeling is.

IMHO as always, of course.
Jan 30 13 05:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jean Renard Photography
Posts: 2,048
Los Angeles, California, US


The fields have some things in common but not enough to guarantee an automatic or easy transition.

Both fields, modeling and acting, deserve respect.  Wanting to be either and becoming one or the other is not the same thing and requires work, not wishful thinking.

LA is filled with unemployed models and actors who think they can cross into each other's world without working at it, adding to the numbers of folks who are simply not working because they are not good enough or simply not the right fit.

Despair not, there is always reality TV....
Jan 30 13 06:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Lucy Breeze
Posts: 49
Markham, Ontario, Canada


I've only started modelling because I love acting.  I agree with the whole acting without words, Telling a great story with words is one thing, without words is another.
Jan 30 13 07:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
H A Z E
Posts: 82
London, England, United Kingdom


Brett Hunt wrote:
most successful models are great actors. They preform with out a script

+1

Jan 30 13 08:08 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Raoul Isidro Images
Posts: 6,143
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


F I L M wrote:
Do models want to eventually be actors?

They sure do.

But the part that hits reality like a ton of bricks is when these models start to utter a word, such as a simple line on a script.

A big burly Rambo neanderthal looks good for the part, but when he utters the line: "I am your worst nightmare." sounding like Jar Jar Binks, all hell breaks loose.

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Jan 30 13 08:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jean Renard Photography
Posts: 2,048
Los Angeles, California, US


Raoul Isidro Images wrote:

They sure do.

But the part that hits reality like a ton of bricks is when these models start to utter a word, such as a simple line on a script.

A big burly Rambo neanderthal looks good for the part, but when he utters the line: "I am your worst nightmare." sounding like Jar Jar Binks, all hell breaks loose.

.

Your point exactly


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQFho0_G1VI

Jan 30 13 08:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
EdwardKristopher
Posts: 3,375
Tempe, Arizona, US


F I L M wrote:
Do models want to eventually be actors?  We ask because we produce films.

Doesn't everyone?!

Jan 30 13 08:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sullen Garbo Siren
Posts: 11
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Pretty sure at least 90% of models want to be actors. I've known a lot of models who are GREAT models, but just don't have the confidence to act. I've been acting since I was 12, so I've been around both types for half of my life.

There is absolutely a shelf-life on acting, at least for females. How many 30something actors do you know who don't end up playing the part of "the mom"? It's like, boom, you hit 30, you're now "the mom".
Jan 31 13 12:37 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
devpics
Posts: 834
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia


Modelling is a type of acting, where you don't say anything and stand still. Sometimes critics sneer at sucessful models who try acting but in fact many performers train as actors/models/singers, it's often the luck of the drawer as to what they suceed at first
Jan 31 13 01:48 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Abigail Rich
Posts: 5
London, England, United Kingdom


Well I feel that the answer is Yes, I do both, with TV commercials, TNT's Leverage, and Hangover III. Which do I prefer, now that's the tough question and I guess that it comes down to the project....If you are lucky to have a mixture of both then it works for the best, at least it does for me.

So Break a leg y'all!!!!
Jan 31 13 01:57 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ImageCRAFTbyAleks
Posts: 30
Albany, New York, US


When I mentor someone who I believe has "modeling" potential, I strongly advocate that the talent take some acting or voice (broadcast speaking) lessons. This advice would hold true for anyone pursuing modeling in a secondary market where fashion opportunities are limited to a 'back-to-school' fashion show in the local mall or a 'wedding' show at some hotel meeting room. Markets like mine have opportunities for models (talent) in television commercial work for local companies but this may require a model being able to speak/deliver lines on camera. These endeavors usually are mainstream character stuff... busy executives, homemakers, parents, next-door-neighbor types. This region is also heavy on medical and health services so there's work for brochure/pamphlet campaigns geared to the service provided in addition to the television commercials.

To me, if the talent is serious about their career, they will pursue EVERY avenue for exposure available in their region. I even hold this to be true for many big cities as well. If you are fortunate to be up for becoming the branded face for a company, like "Flo" in the insurance ads, you best not be a one-trick pony that's only capable of stills.

Acting doesn't mandate lofty thespian prowess, just the ability to read copy effectively to get the message over to an audience while maintaining a (hopefully memorable) connection to the viewer.

Then I advise to continue adding skills to their reading capacity... i.e. some dance, maybe singing, horseback riding, skiing, etc. For instance, we have ski resorts in this area that do seasonal promotional campaigns and shoot locally. So... ski if you want a shot at some of that money.

The best thing about adding acting skills to a modeling repetoire is the enhancement of your career potential and the liklihood of extending your talent value past the "desirable" modeling ages. (Remember the "You're soaking in it" Palmolive dishwashing liquid lady?) If you want to work, bring as much to the table as you can. Utilize every bit of talent that you have... and I'm speaking about the above board stuff. Talents that further your ambition is your own business. smile

Lastly, there are two models in my MM book that make far more money consistently than any of the folks that I've featured that are younger and all buffed out. Why? Because they do character work... as print models, TV commercials, and small parts in film or episodic television... so much so that they don't have to do anything else. (Such as wait tables, sell waterless cookware at home parties, or dress up as the Statue of Liberty to pitch tax services on the street corner.) They actually make real money doing what they want to do in this field.

While I know that not everyone can speak effectively on camera, ya still gotta try if you don't know you can't. And if not that, then parasail, or snorkle, or learn martial arts, or learn to drive stick... anything that can land you another gig. Remember, nearly every "super" model is capable of doing a TV pitch, even if it's very marginal talent... ex. Covergirl.

If you're limited to smouldering boo-boo eyes with a surly come-f**k me mouthset,
well... everyday another dozen or two join this site with that same look... so yours better be riveting.

You've gotta hold them with whatever you've got for as long as you can. Adding skills can help do that. The very worst thing you can ever hear in this field is when someone who can hire you says: "Thank you. Next!"
Jan 31 13 05:37 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ImageCRAFTbyAleks
Posts: 30
Albany, New York, US


Sullen Garbo Siren wrote:
Pretty sure at least 90% of models want to be actors. I've known a lot of models who are GREAT models, but just don't have the confidence to act. I've been acting since I was 12, so I've been around both types for half of my life.

There is absolutely a shelf-life on acting, at least for females. How many 30something actors do you know who don't end up playing the part of "the mom"? It's like, boom, you hit 30, you're now "the mom".

If you're a "working" mom that gets a paycheck... how is this bad?

Jan 31 13 05:49 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Harold Rose
Posts: 2,925
Calhoun, Georgia, US


F I L M wrote:
Do models want to eventually be actors?  We ask because we produce films.

I would say that is is an individual thing,,    over the years several top actresses have pass through my studio...   In the 50's  most that I can think of did not have a  acting future planned..    After about  the early 70's   it became a valuable  future  goal..   

    One of the first nudes  series I shot   (1955)  the up comming model,  had no idea of acting being  her ultimate goal.    2 years later,  she got a break,  Called me and ask if I would not publish  those first photos.    Although we did many  commercial jobs  over the years,   and she rose to the top of the movie star ranks,,,   she knew very well that I would not  break the trust that we had..  EVERYONE WALKS THEIR OWN PATH..

Jan 31 13 06:42 am  Link  Quote 
Film/TV Producer
David W Richardson
Posts: 24
Gastonia, North Carolina, US


Brett Hunt wrote:
most successful models are great actors. They preform with out a script

Unfortunately, that doesn't mean they perform well WITH a script.

Having talent is a plus.  But there's a lot more to film acting than just being able to perform dialogue in character.  That's why training and experience are so important.  Actors have to be able to hit their marks without looking at them.  They have to remember exactly what body moves they made at what points in the dialogue, so they can re-create them accurately in subsequent takes.  There's a lot of the technical in acting.

It also helps to be familiar with the lingo used on the set, so when a director says "Go back to your one" or "Cheat left", they'll know what to do.

I think models can make great actors.  But, like anything else, it takes a mixture of talent, training and hard work.

Jan 31 13 09:16 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ImageCRAFTbyAleks
Posts: 30
Albany, New York, US


David W Richardson wrote:

Unfortunately, that doesn't mean they perform well WITH a script.

Having talent is a plus.  But there's a lot more to film acting than just being able to perform dialogue in character.  That's why training and experience are so important.  Actors have to be able to hit their marks without looking at them.  They have to remember exactly what body moves they made at what points in the dialogue, so they can re-create them accurately in subsequent takes.  There's a lot of the technical in acting.

It also helps to be familiar with the lingo used on the set, so when a director says "Go back to your one" or "Cheat left", they'll know what to do.


I think models can make great actors.  But, like anything else, it takes a mixture of talent, training and hard work.

I agree, but I believe "models" should at least try to see if they have this ability. In essence, the above observation holds true for models as well. Some folks just don't know how to pitch a "look" other than 'deer caught in headlights' successfully. Other models can't walk a catwalk well. While 'acting' can be a whole career onto itself, being camera capable isn't. It amounts to having a comfort level and ease to being yourself while exuding a charisma that engages the audience. This is a similar desired result in front of a still camera as well. There are many 'actors' who really don't act... they continually play themselves. They just have something that reads well with an audience. IF a model discovers they have added abilities and skills, and have a desire to expand their opportunities, they should give themselves a fair shot and explore the option. Great acting is like saying the goal is always Lance Armstrong, minus the better living through pharmaceuticals aspect, when riding a bike to get to the store still beats just walking. There's a lot of passable and entirely acceptable on-air talent without a Clio, Tony, Emmy, or Oscar in their future.

Jan 31 13 09:49 am  Link  Quote 
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