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WmBirch
Posts: 239
Akron, Ohio, US


http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/17014625
Another photographer and I have been discussing  if this is nude, implied,  or what.
Jan 31 13 01:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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GPS Studio Services
Posts: 33,484
San Francisco, California, US


It depends on who u ask
Jan 31 13 01:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
WmBirch
Posts: 239
Akron, Ohio, US


GPS Studio Services wrote:
It depends on who u ask

asking   YOU,  and anyone who sees this.

Jan 31 13 01:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
MoRina
Posts: 5,455
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US


It's a nude with bodypaint.
Jan 31 13 01:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Viator Defessus Photos
Posts: 929
College Station, Texas, US


What he's saying here is that there's not necessarily 1 "right" answer to this question. It's going to vary from person to person. Usually in these cases the only answer that matters is the one you choose for yourself.

That said, I would tend to consider it implied.
Jan 31 13 01:54 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Suicide and Redemption
Posts: 102
Clayton, Georgia, US


I'd consider it body painting/Implied
Jan 31 13 01:56 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
John Horwitz
Posts: 2,548
Raleigh, North Carolina, US


the model does not shoot nudes - says so on her profile
Jan 31 13 01:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
hs photography
Posts: 468
Houston, Texas, US


I would say nude but  somewhat obscured.
Jan 31 13 01:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DAN CRUIKSHANK
Posts: 1,774
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Ask a Mod

Apparently this is NSFW:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/30591006

But this is OK:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31196900

Your shot might be considered nude because of the visible outline of nipple...
Jan 31 13 02:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
M U S E
Posts: 226
Durham, North Carolina, US


MoRina wrote:
It's a nude with bodypaint.

Agreed.

If this is an "implied" shot then that makes all bodypaint implied nudity. Not in my opinion....if you are bodypainted you are still nude.

Jan 31 13 02:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
thePhotosmith
Posts: 424
Durham, North Carolina, US


MoRina wrote:
It's a nude with bodypaint.

+1

Jan 31 13 02:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
WmBirch
Posts: 239
Akron, Ohio, US


Thank you all.
Jan 31 13 02:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Abbitt Photography
Posts: 11,136
Oakland Acres, Iowa, US


MoRina wrote:
It's a nude with bodypaint.

That's how I'd describe it also.

Jan 31 13 02:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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PTPhotoUT
Posts: 1,934
Salt Lake City, Utah, US


She is partially covered with opaque body paint. So not nude.
Jan 31 13 02:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
James Morgan aka Maddog
Posts: 101
Burlison, Tennessee, US


This is one of those syntax grey area.  Technically, if the genitalia or nipples can be clearly seen.. It's nude.  Any non-clothing that prevents them from being seen: towel, ribbon, body posture, prop, or appendage.. Technically that's implied if the model is not dressed to society's current standards.  Body paint is a hard area to address.. I've seen body paint done so well that the model can walk out in public because people aren't paying to close attention.. But all it takes is one person to notice and it can be a police issue.

If this was in my portfolio I'd mark it as adult - 18 over only just to be on the safe side of any possible legal issue.
Jan 31 13 02:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
-The Dave-
Posts: 8,515
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


DAN CRUIKSHANK wrote:
Ask a Mod

Apparently this is NSFW:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/30591006

But this is OK:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31196900

Your shot might be considered nude because of the visible outline of nipple...

By MM rules your first image is NSFW and can not be displayed as an Avatar or on your Bio page.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/help/rules/images

Jan 31 13 02:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Brian Scanlon
Posts: 767
Encino, California, US


It's like we need to define nude as if you can tell what is there, it's nude or we need another category to cover this case (be it body paint or wet t-shirt or whatever)
Jan 31 13 02:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
r T p
Posts: 2,715
Los Angeles, California, US



"Nudity or nakedness is the state of wearing no clothing."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudity
Jan 31 13 02:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
S W I N S K E Y
Posts: 24,309
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US


WmBirch wrote:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/17014625
Another photographer and I have been discussing  if this is nude, implied,  or what.

of course it's nude..make up does not equal clothes..

http://i.imgur.com/m8TQi.png

Jan 31 13 02:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
M U S E
Posts: 226
Durham, North Carolina, US


S W I N S K E Y wrote:

of course it's nude..make up does not equal clothes..

+1

Jan 31 13 02:42 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Daeda1us
Posts: 1,067
Little Rock, Arkansas, US


WmBirch wrote:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/17014625
Another photographer and I have been discussing  if this is nude, implied,  or what.

I generally consider body paint "nude".

Jan 31 13 02:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NameChanged
Posts: 371
Kansas City, Missouri, US


I would say it is six of one and half a dozen of the other ... LOL
Jan 31 13 02:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Decay of Memory
Posts: 568
Asheville, North Carolina, US


Most noticeably, it's gold.
Jan 31 13 03:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ontherocks
Posts: 22,076
Salem, Oregon, US


it seems like models who don't do nudes will do bodypaint. so for them it isn't nude. to me if i can see nipples it's nude.

as far as mayhem i don't know if you have to mark them 18+ or not. i would be inclined to mark it as NSFW myself.
Jan 31 13 03:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
EdwardKristopher
Posts: 3,338
Tempe, Arizona, US


I would consider it Body Painted, yet Implied is the closest I would believe it to be.
Jan 31 13 03:56 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
mphunt
Posts: 872
Missouri City, Texas, US


Model doesn't shoot nudes, so I guess not.
Jan 31 13 04:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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Good Egg Productions
Posts: 14,710
Orlando, Florida, US


Why does it matter?

If you want to know if a model will do a particular idea, ask the model if she'll do it.  The only person's opinion that matters is the model.
Jan 31 13 04:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Terrell Gates
Posts: 1,012
Santa Fe, New Mexico, US


Pretty much....  (o:}
Jan 31 13 04:12 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 7,788
Olney, Maryland, US


WmBirch wrote:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/17014625
Another photographer and I have been discussing  if this is nude, implied,  or what.

I'm reminded of medieval scholars debating how many teeth a horse has.

Nude or not, it doesn't matter.  Does the OP move in social circles that will judge him for photographing this image?  Does he care?  It will do him no good to argue semantics with his peers.

Jan 31 13 04:29 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Sal W Hanna
Posts: 6,547
Huntington Beach, California, US


DAN CRUIKSHANK wrote:
Ask a Mod

Apparently this is NSFW:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/30591006

But this is OK:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31196900

Your shot might be considered nude because of the visible outline of nipple...

Butt crack/No Butt crack. Hence why one is ok and the other is not.

WmBirch wrote:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/17014625
Another photographer and I have been discussing  if this is nude, implied,  or what.

It's bodypaint, it would be implied if more skin was showing in private areas.

Jan 31 13 04:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
NicoleNudes
Posts: 3,725
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Yes, she just has gold stuff on her
Jan 31 13 04:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Davos Photography
Posts: 6
North Canton, Ohio, US


In my opinion this is Implied, since any 'inappropriate' parts are not readily seen, however I would still mark it as 'NSFW'/'Mature' because there are some audiences that would claim it to be to revealing.
Jan 31 13 05:03 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
-Ira
Posts: 2,166
New York, New York, US


Its nude.  Yet non revealing.
Jan 31 13 07:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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GPS Studio Services
Posts: 33,484
San Francisco, California, US


GPS Studio Services wrote:
It depends on who u ask
WmBirch wrote:
asking   YOU,  and anyone who sees this.

You will notice that there is no agreement here.  The answers vary all across the board.  That was the reason for my reply.

Feb 01 13 04:21 pm  Link  Quote 
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Raoul Isidro Images
Posts: 5,544
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Yes she would be nude: before, during and after the shoot, and after the shower.

Even if she was facing the other way, she would still be nude, no?

.
Feb 01 13 06:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
wagnerLA
Posts: 52
Los Angeles, California, US


I would classify as "covered" nude.
Feb 01 13 06:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 11,749
Olivet, Michigan, US


John Horwitz wrote:
the model does not shoot nudes - says so on her profile

Well, that settles it.  big_smile

Of course, by that logic, THIS isn't a nude either (18+)
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/18773353

Feb 01 13 07:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Nikki Magnusson
Posts: 6,841
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


implied...

theres no uncovered goodies..

and thats that... http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/142/d006ac7e2fb94fd49cbecfe56d278bc7/l.gifhttp://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/141/83794924d19943afa2a365622d1d9fe1/l.gifhttp://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/43/3c652048ad4144b2b346d2bbb5870272/l.gif
Feb 01 13 07:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
MIDNIGHT EXPRESS
Posts: 499
Pomona, California, US


WmBirch wrote:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/17014625
Another photographer and I have been discussing  if this is nude, implied,  or what.

No, shes covered

Feb 01 13 07:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Cynna Stylz MUA
Posts: 216
New York, New York, US


Although covered, there is still too much nippy at view. This would make my 12yo nephew sooooo happy. Otherwise it is a beautiful pic.
Feb 01 13 08:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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