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Jaz S
Posts: 124
Orlando, Florida, US


I know I've heard over and over again that around 2pm is the worst.. (1-3). Due to harsh lighting, shadows, etc.
If that's the case, would around 11am and 12pm be around the same? Or should you really only shoot the first few hours after the sun comes up or down?
I would love your experienced opinions! Thanks!

edit: and of course I mean outdoor shoots :p
Feb 01 13 04:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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Raoul Isidro Images
Posts: 6,105
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


I doesn't matter what time of day as long as the sky behaves like a soft box. borat

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Feb 01 13 04:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kaouthia
Posts: 3,152
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


Any time of day works for me.  You can always put up flags or diffusers, add flash, stand your subject in open shade, all kinds of stuffs. smile
Feb 01 13 04:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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MM Nudes
Posts: 62
Los Angeles, California, US


That time of day when you don't have your camera with you would be the worst sad
Feb 01 13 04:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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SPV Photo
Posts: 768
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


2:00 AM would probably suck. tongue
Feb 01 13 04:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mirror With A Memory
Posts: 285
New York, New York, US


The only bad time is when you don't make time to take a photograph.
Feb 01 13 04:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Good Egg Productions
Posts: 15,319
Orlando, Florida, US


Around 3pm in August in Orlando outside.
Feb 01 13 04:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kyle T Edwards
Posts: 430
St Catharines, Ontario, Canada


It depends - what kind of light aren't you looking for?
Feb 01 13 04:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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fullmetalphotographer
Posts: 2,756
Fresno, California, US


Jaz S wrote:
I know I've heard over and over again that around 2pm is the worst.. (1-3). Due to harsh lighting, shadows, etc.
If that's the case, would around 11am and 12pm be around the same? Or should you really only shoot the first few hours after the sun comes up or down?
I would love your experienced opinions! Thanks!

edit: and of course I mean outdoor shoots :p

The worst time of the day is when you are at the end of a shoot and you find out the clients check bounces higher than Apollo 11.

There are always work arounds the best thing to do is scout the location in advance and see how the light falls.

Feb 01 13 04:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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ArtGlo
Posts: 506
Peru, Illinois, US


Jaz S wrote:
I know I've heard over and over again that around 2pm is the worst.. (1-3). Due to harsh lighting, shadows, etc.
If that's the case, would around 11am and 12pm be around the same? Or should you really only shoot the first few hours after the sun comes up or down?
I would love your experienced opinions! Thanks!

edit: and of course I mean outdoor shoots :p

3 AM

Feb 01 13 04:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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Supermodel Photographer
Posts: 3,309
Oyster Bay, New York, US


Jaz S wrote:
When is the worst time of day for a photoshoot?

... of course I mean outdoor shoots

Zero Dark Thirty

Feb 01 13 05:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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J O H N A L L A N
Posts: 9,939
Santa Ana, California, US


Full sun can work too. This was taken like 2-3pm. For this one, it was all about the angle.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110905/20/4e65913e048c1.jpg
Feb 01 13 05:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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AndyD10
Posts: 328
Dublin, Dublin, Ireland


I only shoot indoors.  But any time before 11am is bad as I'm a grumpy f**ker in the morning.
Feb 01 13 05:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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Angelfactory
Posts: 1,559
Foley, Minnesota, US


8 to 10 am is the worst for me. Usually have a pot of coffee in me and no food. Even the VR lens can't handle that much shake.
Feb 01 13 05:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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RacerXPhoto
Posts: 2,462
Brooklyn, New York, US


Golden hour
http://www.photographymad.com/pages/vie … hotography
Unless you have enough strobe power to nuke the sun
Feb 01 13 05:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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fullmetalphotographer
Posts: 2,756
Fresno, California, US


RacerXPhoto wrote:
Golden hour
http://www.photographymad.com/pages/vie … hotography
Unless you have enough strobe power to nuke the sun

Golden hour is ideal but you do not always need strobes to nuke the sun.

Reflectors will do wonders.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2648/3748164003_9f59427f8a_m.jpg
glam2_124 by FullMetalPhotographer, on Flickr

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3315/3474947585_a939099dab_m.jpg
JillSharp04 by FullMetalPhotographer, on Flickr

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3635/3475758322_df3d196bf7_m.jpg
JillSharp02 by FullMetalPhotographer, on Flickr

The other thing is how you position the model.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3635/3289461749_efe1bf7638_m.jpg
reflection by FullMetalPhotographer, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8500/8323734010_bc558c6b2b_m.jpg
glam2_126 by FullMetalPhotographer, on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6217/6313343695_652eb2d9e3_m.jpg
bakerbeach by FullMetalPhotographer, on Flickr

You do not always have to overpower the sun with the flash, but a simple fill light.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2064/2282784127_3dd1733f2a_m.jpg
rock012 by FullMetalPhotographer, on Flickr

Feb 01 13 05:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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Brian Scanlon
Posts: 789
Encino, California, US


Jaz S wrote:
I know I've heard over and over again that around 2pm is the worst.. (1-3). Due to harsh lighting, shadows, etc.
If that's the case, would around 11am and 12pm be around the same? Or should you really only shoot the first few hours after the sun comes up or down?
I would love your experienced opinions! Thanks!

edit: and of course I mean outdoor shoots :p

As with any rule there are a ton of exceptions, but the idea is that noontime sun is generally not flattering.  This is usually more of a problem during the summer and the further south (closer to the equator, if your in Australia the further north).  As others have pointed out there are many things that can be done to mitigate this problem.

Feb 01 13 06:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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Charger Photography
Posts: 1,711
San Antonio, Texas, US


Kaouthia wrote:
Any time of day works for me.  You can always put up flags or diffusers, add flash, stand your subject in open shade, all kinds of stuffs. smile

+100   I never worry.

Feb 01 13 06:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Charger Photography
Posts: 1,711
San Antonio, Texas, US


All this between 12pm and 3pm...
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/28078685
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/28976200
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/28228921

Lots more.... I don't care what time... as long it isn't night ime.. Oh wait.. this was done at night.
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/19680877
None are 18+ ... just dont want to fill up the thread with pics
Feb 01 13 06:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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Hero Foto
Posts: 878
Phoenix, Arizona, US


who cares what time it is?

Just SHOOT ...
Feb 01 13 06:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mike Colwell Photograph
Posts: 51
Longview, Texas, US


Time of day don't matter. Temperature matters.
Feb 01 13 06:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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Bravo Magic Images
Posts: 765
Temple City, California, US


No time of Day or night is great for shooting there is always something that goes wrong. It is how prepared you are to do your photoshoot such as lighting cameras lenses reflectors props unless your just doing a casual shoot i would not shoot around trees any time from 12 to 4 pm in any summer time.
Feb 01 13 06:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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Miracle_Man
Posts: 789
Cary, North Carolina, US


Assuming a sunny day at mid to low latitudes without really good lighting controls, no access to open shade, then 10-2 is pretty bad lighting (11-3 during daylight savings time).

But a good photographer will either add in the necessary supplemental light of find open shade to work with and so time of day won't matter that much.

Now when you get outside of those time frames early morning, late afternoon you get what is called "The golden hour" of light.  The sun is low enough on the horizon to provide nice directional light to use and it's generally a warmer color which many people prefer.  It's hard to do rim lighting using the sun when it's directly overhead.
Feb 01 13 06:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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PhotographybyT
Posts: 7,617
Monterey, California, US


There are work-arounds for harsh lighting and shadows on a bright day. I shoot with these conditions all the time. So I guess it depends on what you're shooting, where you're shooting, and how you're shooting.
Feb 01 13 06:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Decay of Memory
Posts: 580
Asheville, North Carolina, US


I usually avoid nighttime.

not always, but usually.
Feb 01 13 06:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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ELiffmann
Posts: 1,397
Baton Rouge, Louisiana, US


The big problem with mid-day sun is the squinting and sunken eye sockets.  If you're not making eye contact(sunglasses, closed eyes etc.) no problem.
Feb 01 13 06:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Charger Photography
Posts: 1,711
San Antonio, Texas, US


Hero Foto wrote:
who cares what time it is?

Just SHOOT ...

Exactly my point... smile

Feb 01 13 07:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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Charger Photography
Posts: 1,711
San Antonio, Texas, US


PhotographybyT wrote:
There are work-arounds for harsh lighting and shadows on a bright day. I shoot with these conditions all the time. So I guess it depends on what you're shooting, where you're shooting, and how you're shooting.

+100 I do the same....

Feb 01 13 07:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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Charger Photography
Posts: 1,711
San Antonio, Texas, US


ELiffmann wrote:
The big problem with mid-day sun is the squinting and sunken eye sockets.  If you're not making eye contact(sunglasses, closed eyes etc.) no problem.

Shade is your friend... reflectors of fill flash...

Feb 01 13 07:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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MKPhoto
Posts: 5,665
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada


Good Egg Productions wrote:
Around 3pm in August in Orlando outside.

Any time in January in Winnipeg. wink

Feb 01 13 07:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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myfotographer
Posts: 3,382
Fresno, California, US


It isn't about time of day. It is about controlling the light you have.
Feb 01 13 07:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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The Signature Image
Posts: 12,055
Gorham, Maine, US


High noon!
Feb 01 13 07:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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PTPhotoUT
Posts: 1,961
Salt Lake City, Utah, US


If you don't know how to deal with the harsh shadows, vertical sun, noon to 2 pm, can suck big time. As everyone else has stated, you there are many ways of dealing with it to produce great shots.
Feb 01 13 07:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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Al Lock Photography
Posts: 15,832
Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand


I strongly believe in planning shoots around what I want to achieve and what light I need to achieve it. Sometimes, that means shooting at dawn (one of my favorite times to shoot actually), sometimes golden hour, sometimes midday. Many people have noted that there are "work-arounds". I don't think of them as work-arounds, I think of them as ways to achieve the look I want to achieve with that shot.

Learn how light functions, how clear skies, cloudy skies and overcast skies create different lighting situations, and what you can do to modify those lighting situations - from how you position the model, to the use of scrims, reflectors, flash, shade - and how to benefit from all those options to get the shot you want to get.
Feb 02 13 03:53 am  Link  Quote 
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Image Works Photography
Posts: 2,890
Orlando, Florida, US


Jaz S wrote:
I know I've heard over and over again that around 2pm is the worst.. (1-3). Due to harsh lighting, shadows, etc.
If that's the case, would around 11am and 12pm be around the same? Or should you really only shoot the first few hours after the sun comes up or down?
I would love your experienced opinions! Thanks!

edit: and of course I mean outdoor shoots :p

2pm on a summer day is the worst in Orlando. It gets so hot and the chances are rain are great. In any case- starting a shoot at 9am is my best liking as it is still cool and the sun is just above horizon.

Feb 02 13 07:11 am  Link  Quote 
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KA Style
Posts: 1,583
Syracuse, New York, US


I personally dont like to shoot between 12-3. Sure you can shoot in any lighting if you use it correctly but I like early am light and after 5.
Feb 02 13 08:21 am  Link  Quote 
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Tiffiney C
Posts: 569
Los Angeles, California, US


Noon in NYC on a roof in the summer time. Sun beams full blast directly down onto a large metallic painted roof that acts as the hugest reflector you've ever seen. Also, did I mention the roofs in NYC melt in the heat. AWFUL! But it must be done wink

Tiff
www.TiffineyC.com
Feb 02 13 08:27 am  Link  Quote 
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Rakesh Malik
Posts: 331
Seattle, Washington, US


RacerXPhoto wrote:
Golden hour
http://www.photographymad.com/pages/vie … hotography
Unless you have enough strobe power to nuke the sun

Edit: misread it...

You can ALWAYS have enough power to match the sun, by using the sun. That is, a reflector.

Feb 02 13 08:54 am  Link  Quote 
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ACPhotography
Posts: 8,622
Plainview, New York, US


About 12:30 in the afternoon with a southern facing beach... Yes, I had a lot of light...

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/091002/09/4ac6286798da2_m.jpg
Feb 02 13 08:57 am  Link  Quote 
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PhillipM
Posts: 6,425
Martin, Tennessee, US


easy

The time of day, you can't handle the lighting situation.
Feb 02 13 09:24 am  Link  Quote 
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