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Photosbycj
Posts: 747
Lexington, Kentucky, US


Ok so is this photography related. Well once my wife finishes with her grad classes she will have the option to basically pick any location in the world to work. Given my photography business she asked where could we move and I still find work.

My markets are weddings, high school seniors, sports those pay bills and then of course fashion is my personal work. So what would be a good place to move outside of the states and still find work in the markets I'm accustom to? The other question is once we figure on where I will start to learn that language but which countries would be more forgiving by having a heavy English presence?

I'm interested to hear what everyone has to say.
Feb 04 13 03:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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L A U B E N H E I M E R
Posts: 6,975
Seattle, Washington, US


paris.
Feb 04 13 03:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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Giacomo Cirrincioni
Posts: 18,974
New York, New York, US


Paris in the 20s


Or Rome in the 50s


Or London in the 60s


I did live in Prague in the 90s - that was awesome

Today?  Probably Berlin.
Feb 04 13 03:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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DougBPhoto
Posts: 33,511
Portland, Oregon, US


the moon
Feb 04 13 03:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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GPS Studio Services
Posts: 30,121
San Francisco, California, US


Wherever you move, plan on a long ramp-up period.  I do agree though, Berlin might be a good place.
Feb 04 13 03:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 11,723
Tampa, Florida, US


I'd love to know what Master's Degree guarantees employment in any geographical region you wish, worldwide?

And if my significant other had such employment, you better believe I wouldn't be pursuing weddings and senior portraits...wherever that would be.
Feb 04 13 03:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,108
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


consider where in the world you have contacts.
you will be starting from scratch in a competitive market wherever you go.  it will take a while to get into the wedding market anywhere, no matter how good your work is.  So your friends list on FB is your best friend smile

you will need to use the contacts (and abuse them) to get in the door.
Or just go to paris. if you are going to starve you may as well be in paris smile
Feb 04 13 03:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,108
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


Michael Pandolfo wrote:
I'd love to know what Master's Degree guarantees employment in any geographical region you wish?

grad work isnt just a masters.

Feb 04 13 03:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Photosbycj
Posts: 747
Lexington, Kentucky, US


In Paris or Berlin is it possible to get a house with some space or even some land? I know Berlin is a relative cheap city compared to most.
Feb 04 13 03:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Images by MR
Posts: 6,031
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Vancouver is nice... provided you have lots of money to buy a house smile
Feb 04 13 03:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Photosbycj
Posts: 747
Lexington, Kentucky, US


Michael Pandolfo wrote:
I'd love to know what Master's Degree guarantees employment in any geographical region you wish, worldwide?

And if my significant other had such employment, you better believe I wouldn't be pursuing weddings and senior portraits...wherever that would be.

Complicated but its a doctorate in environmental health with a masters in public health. Basically in short she would/is in charge of all safety within any company she would work for. As a consultant she would over see say a production plant safety procedures and implementing the procedures to keep people safe and insurance companies off the companies back.

Feb 04 13 03:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photosbycj
Posts: 747
Lexington, Kentucky, US


I figured on having to start all over maybe even assist or second shoot under an established pro in the area. I just don't know what others countries still have a big market. By that I mean here in the states we can charge (basing this on my region) anything from $2k to $10k so it's a large market even in a small area. Also it's not an over worked area there is work for everyone.

I'm just curious if in cities like Berlin, Paris ect ect there is a wedding or whatever market large enough to hold such ranges or if the money is low because people in other countries don't over spend for such luxuries?
Feb 04 13 03:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 11,723
Tampa, Florida, US


Photosbycj wrote:
Complicated but its a doctorate in environmental health with a masters in public health. Basically in short she would/is in charge of all safety within any company she would work for. As a consultant she would over see say a production plant safety procedures and implementing the procedures to keep people safe and insurance companies off the companies back.

I meant that more tongue-in-cheek like, what the hell am I doing wrong? lol. but that's impressive.

Personally, if I could move to one place it would be Italy...but that's more about personal taste than any job market.

Feb 04 13 03:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Miroslava Svoboda
Posts: 437
San Francisco, California, US


China -_-
Feb 04 13 03:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Photosbycj
Posts: 747
Lexington, Kentucky, US


Michael Pandolfo wrote:

I meant that more tongue-in-cheek like, what the hell am I doing wrong? lol. but that's impressive.

Personally, if I could move to one place it would be Italy...but that's more about personal taste than any job market.

HaHa that's the first place she has already gotten a job offer and I said I could be packed in 5 min.


One thing I failed to mention is we have a 3 year old. So I'd love to find a place that would be great for kids.

Feb 04 13 03:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photosbycj
Posts: 747
Lexington, Kentucky, US


Miroslava Svoboda wrote:
China -_-

HaHa they don't believe in safety

Feb 04 13 03:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 11,723
Tampa, Florida, US


Photosbycj wrote:

HaHa that's the first place she has already gotten a job offer and I said I could be packed in 5 min.


One thing I failed to mention is we have a 3 year old. So I'd love to find a place that would be great for kids.

If you're ever interested in obtaining the services of a sarcastic au-pair...

Feb 04 13 03:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,108
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


Photosbycj wrote:

HaHa that's the first place she has already gotten a job offer and I said I could be packed in 5 min.


One thing I failed to mention is we have a 3 year old. So I'd love to find a place that would be great for kids.

in that case you are not talking about a country or even a city. you are talking about a neighborhood.  no city is 100% suitable for kids everywhere. some not at all

Feb 04 13 04:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photosbycj
Posts: 747
Lexington, Kentucky, US


AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:

in that case you are not talking about a country or even a city. you are talking about a neighborhood.  no city is 100% suitable for kids everywhere. some not at all

It doesn't have to be a neighborhood although it would be nice. However I've lived in cities and plenty of people have raised kids in other cities but yes some place safe. My wife currently has a friend living in London with a toddler and they also jump a train all the time.

Feb 04 13 04:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ali Choudhry Photo
Posts: 108
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia


Michael Pandolfo wrote:
I'd love to know what Master's Degree guarantees employment in any geographical region you wish, worldwide?

And if my significant other had such employment, you better believe I wouldn't be pursuing weddings and senior portraits...wherever that would be.

My partner has a PhD in Neuroscience and is finding it hard to find work (that's after being in the field for nearly 10 years and having numerous publications).
Times are tough.

Feb 04 13 05:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Robert Jewett
Posts: 2,257
al-Marsā, Tunis, Tunisia


I live in Tunisia.  There are two other, real photographers here.  One is some French guy they won't give a business license to, and the other is an American couple who shoot weddings, etc.  They shot 40 weddings last year.  It pays less than the US, but the rent on a huge, nice home in some parts of the city is $500 a month.

Not for everyone, but what you are talking about is certainly possible.

Until last week, I have only been shooting for American companies as my business license hadn't been issued yet.  I've been turning away a lot of fashion work for locals (a lot of MAJOR french brands are manufactured here).  Mainly look-books.  But some brands are tired of the expense of flying in French and Italian photographers.  We'll see now that I have my license.

We chose here because I wanted my kids to know one European and one non-european language when they grow up.  They are currently learning French and Arabic.
Feb 05 13 03:45 am  Link  Quote 
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Aaron Lewis Photography
Posts: 4,300
Catskill, New York, US


I'm all for Tunisia but my first choice would be any non-US island in the Caribbean
Feb 05 13 05:36 am  Link  Quote 
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Connor Photography
Posts: 4,958
Newark, Delaware, US


Images by MR wrote:
Vancouver is nice... provided you have lots of money to buy a house smile

X10. 
Just got back from Vancouver for a week for the first time.  Oh man....  most expensive estate I have seen.  You may as well as change to the name to Hong-couver.  Good food though.  smile

Feb 05 13 08:35 am  Link  Quote 
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Connor Photography
Posts: 4,958
Newark, Delaware, US


Michael Pandolfo wrote:
I'd love to know what Master's Degree guarantees employment in any geographical region you wish, worldwide?

And if my significant other had such employment, you better believe I wouldn't be pursuing weddings and senior portraits...wherever that would be.
Ali Choudhry Photo wrote:
My partner has a PhD in Neuroscience and is finding it hard to find work (that's after being in the field for nearly 10 years and having numerous publications).
Times are tough.

Get a post-doc job funded by NIH grants here in the U.S and   Beef up the publications and get a job in U.S.

Feb 05 13 08:40 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Dani Nikole Feist
Posts: 125
Sacramento, California, US


Nice, france
Feb 05 13 08:49 am  Link  Quote 
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Marin Photography
Posts: 1,571
BRONX, New York, US


I would say Paris, because that would be a dream! Is it suitable for you? Don't know.
Feb 05 13 09:02 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 32,688
Upland, California, US


I'm happy right where I'm at... 15 minutes from this...

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110303/07/4d6fb3f3ecc85.jpg

and one hour from this...

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/090605/08/4a2939c3e2f32.jpg
Feb 05 13 09:07 am  Link  Quote 
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Select Models
Posts: 32,688
Upland, California, US


DougBPhoto wrote:
the moon

Gotta love the low gravity shooting effects... BUT... lack of oxygen could be a deal breaker... lol

Feb 05 13 02:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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MMDesign
Posts: 17,581
Louisville, Kentucky, US


Mark Laubenheimer wrote:
paris.

He's already close to Versailles.  smile

Feb 05 13 03:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ali Choudhry Photo
Posts: 108
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia


Connor Photography wrote:
Get a post-doc job funded by NIH grants here in the U.S and   Beef up the publications and get a job in U.S.

He had tenure in the States but gave that up. Didn't want to live there anymore. But is finding it hard to get a job in Oz. tongue

Feb 05 13 03:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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Love the Arts
Posts: 632
Chicago, Illinois, US


I love living in Chicago! 

What I would love is to travel in style and comfort anywhere I wanted to go in the world, as often as I like, and to stay as long as I like.
Feb 05 13 03:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY
Posts: 4,441
Jacksonville, Florida, US


somewhere with low or no taxes.and is small business friendly !
Feb 05 13 04:05 pm  Link  Quote 
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Carioca
Posts: 832
Paris, Île-de-France, France


Photosbycj wrote:
In Paris or Berlin is it possible to get a house with some space or even some land? I know Berlin is a relative cheap city compared to most.

Berlin is a good choice for cheap space, but no local work.
Paris - work possible if you speak their language fair enough.
Any size apartment space available...
If you want to buy, average price is around 14,000$ / 10 square feet.  wink

Feb 05 13 04:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
CP_
Posts: 310
Seattle, Washington, US


Photosbycj wrote:
My markets are weddings, high school seniors, sports those pay bills and then of course fashion is my personal work.

I'm not sure the high school senior market exists outside of the good ol' USA. Maybe you want to check around, or maybe someone else here knows.

Feb 05 13 05:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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Raoul Isidro Images
Posts: 4,270
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Recommended for you: Singapore, Abu Dhabi.

For my own preference: Right here right now.

.
Feb 05 13 07:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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GER Photography
Posts: 6,240
Imperial, California, US


Anywhere but here!!:-)
Feb 05 13 07:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mike Kelcher
Posts: 11,626
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Western North Dakota. The oil boom there is likely to last a lifetime and everyone seems to be making lots of money. Finding a good place to live is the hard part, there's a housing shortage. Bring warm clothes.
Feb 05 13 09:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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GER Photography
Posts: 6,240
Imperial, California, US


Michael Pandolfo wrote:
I'd love to know what Master's Degree guarantees employment in any geographical region you wish, worldwide?

And if my significant other had such employment, you better believe I wouldn't be pursuing weddings and senior portraits...wherever that would be.

An engineering degree will get you by anywhere in the world.

Feb 07 13 06:52 am  Link  Quote 
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