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Max M Photography
Posts: 19
South Gate, California, US


can anyone give me more info on what is trade for copy agreement. and how do i go by getting one

thanks.
Feb 05 13 11:10 am  Link  Quote 
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L A U B E N H E I M E R
Posts: 7,093
Seattle, Washington, US


Max M Photography  wrote:
can anyone give me more info on what is trade for copy agreement. and how do i go by getting one

thanks.

a copy of what?

i would also like more info.

Feb 05 13 11:18 am  Link  Quote 
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Max M Photography
Posts: 19
South Gate, California, US


the reason i ask is because the model i worked with this week told me that her manage needs me to send her a trade for copy agreement. and i have no clue what that is
Feb 05 13 04:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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L A U B E N H E I M E R
Posts: 7,093
Seattle, Washington, US


Max M Photography  wrote:
the reason i ask is because the model i worked with this week told me that her manage needs me to send her a trade for copy agreement. and i have no clue what that is

manager?

Feb 05 13 04:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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RennsportPhotography
Posts: 16,992
Cherry Hill, New Jersey, US


Max M Photography  wrote:
the reason i ask is because the model i worked with this week told me that her manage needs me to send her a trade for copy agreement. and i have no clue what that is

Better ask him as I do not have a clue either and he is after all the "expert".

Feb 05 13 04:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 11,891
Tampa, Florida, US


Max M Photography  wrote:
the reason i ask is because the model i worked with this week told me that her manage needs me to send her a trade for copy agreement. and i have no clue what that is

Obviously neither do they. I can't wait to hear their explanation though.

Feb 05 13 04:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,260
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


somehow I sense this will get interesting ...
EDIT: ok I spent 2 minutes clicking on refresh and got bored so I googled it. Why? because I had never heard of a trade for copy agreement.

what did I find? the top hit was to a thread on MM two years ago
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?threa … st11285124
its about as enlightening as this one is
Feb 05 13 04:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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DougBPhoto
Posts: 33,808
Portland, Oregon, US


Max M Photography  wrote:
the reason i ask is because the model i worked with this week told me that her manage needs me to send her a trade for copy agreement. and i have no clue what that is

facepalm

No wonder "manager" has such a bad reputation in our business.

My response would be "WTF is a trade for copy agreement?"

Feb 05 13 04:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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GCobb Photography
Posts: 15,833
Southaven, Mississippi, US


Max M Photography  wrote:
the reason i ask is because the model i worked with this week told me that her manage needs me to send her a trade for copy agreement. and i have no clue what that is

That's the point where I'd cease contact or give them a quote.

Feb 05 13 05:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Images by MR
Posts: 6,127
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Max M Photography  wrote:
the reason i ask is because the model i worked with this week told me that her manage needs me to send her a trade for copy agreement. and i have no clue what that is

It would have been nice if she told you this before working with her...

Feb 05 13 05:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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Michael DBA Expressions
Posts: 2,840
Lynchburg, Virginia, US


I have no idea, either. But I do have a response beyond "wtf is a 'trade for copy' agreement?" It involves the suggestion that it is hard to get agreements after the fact, that before-the-fact is the norm in all walks of life.
Feb 05 13 06:04 pm  Link  Quote 
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ME_
Posts: 2,932
Atlanta, Georgia, US


I'd say, "I've never heard of such a thing. What industry is that term used in?" Then don't say another word; just listen to the flubbering.

Maybe her manager can explain it to her and you at the same time!
Feb 05 13 06:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mike Kelcher
Posts: 11,674
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Tell her manager that you do not happen to have such a form. If possible, have the manager send you a copy of what he'd like you to sign. Read it carefully. Talk to an attorney about it if necessary. Scan it and post it online somewhere as a .pdf file and link to it here and you'll get a lot of free unprofessional advice...worth every penny of the cost. :-)

The bottom line is this, if you are going to sign and agree to something, is that something that you really want to agree to? If not, tell them to take a flying leap, and/or tell them how much it'll cost them.
Feb 05 13 06:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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JONATHAN RICHARD
Posts: 539
New York, New York, US


Max M Photography  wrote:
can anyone give me more info on what is trade for copy agreement. and how do i go by getting one

thanks.

Max ,
I suspect that they are referring  to  a release agreement  or sorts that indemnifies  the printing house for making copies or prints of copyrighted works . I have at times received calls from models  who tell me the business  that they went to for prints explained that they needed  authorization  from the photographer as they found the work to be copyrighted  .

Water mark images that the model downloaded from  the  Shoot  Proofing  page  link  that I provide to a model  for selection of prints  , I understood..

But what really surprised  me was that some of the calls were for making a print from the non water marked retouched digital files I provided to the model on a CD.

The printing facility actually took the time to look at the imbedded file info and red flagged the copyright notice.

In NYC this was not to surprising from a couple of  printing houses  that I deal  with myself  and are well know to the modeling industry  producing prints and comp cards .. yet  some of the calls were from outside  of NY State  One was from was from Boston Kinko’s  another from  a Chicago  based Target  .

Feb 05 13 07:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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SoCo n Lime
Posts: 3,212
Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom


a copy of the trade agreement between you and model?

the agreed terms on which the trade was based on prehaps?

something in black and white so everyone knows what they're getting? time for money, time for pictures tf**** fill in the blanks

easiest solution is to ask them to explain what it is they are looking for and you then have factual information and not basing things on assumptions. it will then be possible to weigh up if it is a reasonable request in the given circumstances and respond with your views
Feb 06 13 04:57 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Max M Photography
Posts: 19
South Gate, California, US


turns out that the manager didnt know what he was talking about, since his been only in the field for 3 months.
Feb 07 13 02:29 pm  Link  Quote 
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A-M-P
Posts: 16,449
Orlando, Florida, US


Maybe they mean an usage agreement and are illiterate and just made up a name.
Feb 07 13 03:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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