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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


What kind of conversations do you have during shoots? I always have the best discussions, things like quantum physics and philosophy and how girls with the shittiest advice are always the ones giving their opinion.
Feb 08 13 05:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Stanley L Moore
Posts: 1,511
Houston, Texas, US


I like to get to know the guys and since many male models love to talk about themselves it usually works out well. We do discuss poses and concepts.

I spent my working life as a chemist. I know a lot about physics and find most ...not all... young guys nice enough, polite and respectful, friendly. But mostly empty headed. More concerned about their appearance than any intellectual pursuit.
Feb 08 13 05:43 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
V for Victory Modeling
Posts: 436
Roseville, California, US


The photographer I recently met with liked to tell funny stories to lighten the mood and to prevent flash from overheating. He told me about a model who had a bikini fitting for a suit to small from her. Needless to say that it popped off in the middle of the shoot and he said her expression in the photo was priceless.
Feb 08 13 05:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Images by MR
Posts: 7,482
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Ben Hinman wrote:
What kind of conversations do you have during shoots? I always have the best discussions, things like quantum physics and philosophy and how girls with the shittiest advice are always the ones giving their opinion.

We mostly laugh & talk about stupid threads on MM smile

Feb 08 13 05:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rays Fine Art
Posts: 5,925
New York, New York, US


Anything and everything.  Contrary to popular belief, often the most insightful conversations I have are with models.

Probably the best quote, from a time when I was adjusting a costume and being very careful to avoid touching the model's breast, "For God's sake, they're only fat rolls.  They're not gonna bite you!"
Feb 09 13 08:04 am  Link  Quote 
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Liquid Lace Studios
Posts: 195
Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia


Rays Fine Art wrote:
Anything and everything.  Contrary to popular belief, often the most insightful conversations I have are with models.

Probably the best quote, from a time when I was adjusting a costume and being very careful to avoid touching the model's breast, "For God's sake, they're only fat rolls.  They're not gonna bite you!"

Lol ... that's hilarious ! smile

Feb 09 13 12:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Leone P
Posts: 515
Batley, England, United Kingdom


I have spoken about anything and everything with photographers!

From photographers telling me about their one-night stand habits, another one talking about our favourite xbox games haha! I have discussed the wonders of psychology, sociology and english lit. Discussing our top 5 travel destinations etc.

MM forum threads is a popular subject for some haha!
Feb 09 13 01:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 11,781
Olivet, Michigan, US


Ben Hinman wrote:
What kind of conversations do you have during shoots? I always have the best discussions, things like quantum physics and philosophy and how girls with the shittiest advice are always the ones giving their opinion.

Depends on the model.  Of course, something about what we are shooting, have shot, and will shoot.  Beyond that, it varies, although I have various "stories" and rambles that seem to show up a lot.

Feb 09 13 01:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 11,781
Olivet, Michigan, US


Rays Fine Art wrote:
Anything and everything.  Contrary to popular belief, often the most insightful conversations I have are with models.

Probably the best quote, from a time when I was adjusting a costume and being very careful to avoid touching the model's breast, "For God's sake, they're only fat rolls.  They're not gonna bite you!"

Some models are so comfortable it scares ME. . .

I met one girl when a photographer I knew brought her to my studio to shoot.  The "fee" was that I also got to shoot her.  So, we hadn't talked AT  ALL before she got there, although I knew she did nudes.

So, here is, more or less, our conversation.

Me; if I ask you about poses or something that you aren't comfortable with, just say so, it's fine.

Her; thank you, but that won't be a problem.  Anything's fine.

Me: Um, OK.  And, similarly, if I need to adjust something, naturally I'll ask before I touch you, but please make sure to speak up BEFORE something makes you uncomfortable.

Her; thank you, but that won't be a problem.  Anything's fine.

Me.  Oh.  OK.  Well, I just saw a thread on ModelMayhem where a model was posing for an open leg shot, and the photographer didn't like the way things looked, so he reached down and "adjusted her labia."

Her; one of my photographers did that.  ***THEN SHE GIGGLED****

Um, yeah. 

Mike

Feb 09 13 02:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


Art of the nude wrote:

Some models are so comfortable it scares ME. . .

I met one girl when a photographer I knew brought her to my studio to shoot.  The "fee" was that I also got to shoot her.  So, we hadn't talked AT  ALL before she got there, although I knew she did nudes.

So, here is, more or less, our conversation.

Me; if I ask you about poses or something that you aren't comfortable with, just say so, it's fine.

Her; thank you, but that won't be a problem.  Anything's fine.

Me: Um, OK.  And, similarly, if I need to adjust something, naturally I'll ask before I touch you, but please make sure to speak up BEFORE something makes you uncomfortable.

Her; thank you, but that won't be a problem.  Anything's fine.

Me.  Oh.  OK.  Well, I just saw a thread on ModelMayhem where a model was posing for an open leg shot, and the photographer didn't like the way things looked, so he reached down and "adjusted her labia."

Her; one of my photographers did that.  ***THEN SHE GIGGLED****

Um, yeah. 

Mike

Yeah, thats what you call a DOWN ASS GIRL. lmao. You'd be surprised how many models are just cool with anything. Oftentimes on TF shoots i'll ask them what kind of shots they want and the answer is always "whatever you want". And then i ask them how long they want to shoot for and they say "whatever you want". And then if i ask them if they have any concepts in mind they just repeat back the ones i said to them. Its like the perfect job if you love being in total control.

And the conversations are fantastic.

Feb 09 13 05:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


Rays Fine Art wrote:
Anything and everything.  Contrary to popular belief, often the most insightful conversations I have are with models.

Probably the best quote, from a time when I was adjusting a costume and being very careful to avoid touching the model's breast, "For God's sake, they're only fat rolls.  They're not gonna bite you!"

Its funny how thats the complete OPPOSITE experience of being on modelmayhem. On here people are so sensitive about their bodies and take it personally if you even use the wrong wording, but during a shoot i can just talk plainly since all that crap would just get in the way. I used to try and be polite and say things like "arch your lower back out. no, your other lower back. and bend your knees. better.", now i'm just like "stick your ass out". So much less complicated.

Feb 09 13 05:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Supermodel Photographer
Posts: 3,309
Oyster Bay, New York, US


Ben Hinman wrote:
I always have the best discussions, things like quantum physics ...

See my comment here:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/30438169

Feb 09 13 06:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,457
Salinas, California, US


vbabe wrote:
The photographer I recently met with liked to tell funny stories to lighten the mood and to prevent flash from overheating. He told me about a model who had a bikini fitting for a suit to small from her. Needless to say that it popped off in the middle of the shoot and he said her expression in the photo was priceless.

Love it!  lol

Where is the dang "Like" button when you need it?  Oh wait, this ain't Facebook!

Sounds like you shot with someone really fun!  You know I'm a "talker" from shooting with me, but I guess most of my talking during the shoot was directing poses or telling you something about the light.  How boring is that?  lol

Feb 09 13 06:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,457
Salinas, California, US


Images by MR wrote:

We mostly laugh & talk about stupid threads on MM smile

That's always a great ice breaker ... good for lots of laughs!  lol

Feb 09 13 06:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rick Dupuis Photography
Posts: 6,822
Truro, Nova Scotia, Canada


Model: do you ever shoot nude?
Me: I am shooting one now.
Model: No, I mean, do you ever take your clothes off for a shoot?
Me: do you need a bottle of water or something? A cookie maybe?
Feb 09 13 06:13 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,457
Salinas, California, US


The conversations we have depends on the individual model I'm shooting with.  The funniest I save for when I want to get an image like this;

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120822/00/50348c519d541_m.jpg

Where you can see a genuine fun expression ... she says a wave hit her at that moment, but I don't see a wave.  Do you?   lol

We have conversations that can cover a broad spectrum of subjects, but it's on the phone where I might break the ice early with asking in a humorous way ... questions like;  "Have you ever flaked before, or plan on flaking on me?"   Most react with laughter and say "no ... but if you want me to?" because everyone who reads the forums knows that I ... well ... don't want to brag, but I have very few "flakes!" 

Then I ask if she wants to bring some big buff dude to kick my ass, because I'm not very big ... sort of very average in height and weight at 5' 9" and 155 lbs, that two German women can take me down with ease!   But seriously, I find out what they are really thinking by making these jokes.  I really have no problem with "guests" as long as we've discussed it first.

So there you have it!  That is part of the reason I have so few flakes and no problems with "guests!"   I learned my lesson about picking up German models at the clubs though.  If you don't know them, it's not a good idea to invite them to your secluded studio in the middle of the night just hours after meeting them.  But I was a younger, and more adventurous man then!  The conversation I had with them?  I was told of the benefit of Communism and their disgust at the wall coming down recently!  No joke!  And how they build their portfolios by threatening the photographers!   yikes    Wish I had asked the right questions before the shoot had ended.   Live and learn!
Feb 09 13 06:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


Supermodel Photographer wrote:
See my comment here:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/30438169

As interesting as they are, most models aren't wise enough to comprehend complex thermodynamics and special relativity... tongue Mostly its just simplified discussions about superposition and how the double slit experiment can be applied to the stars in the sky. Shit that actually applies to life.

Feb 09 13 06:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


Patrick Walberg wrote:
The conversations we have depends on the individual model I'm shooting with.  The funniest I save for when I want to get an image like this;

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120822/00/50348c519d541_m.jpg

Where you can see a genuine fun expression ... she says a wave hit her at that moment, but I don't see a wave.  Do you?   lol

We have conversations that can cover a broad spectrum of subjects, but it's on the phone where I might break the ice early with asking in a humorous way ... questions like;  "Have you ever flaked before, or plan on flaking on me?"   Most react with laughter and say "no ... but if you want me to?" because everyone who reads the forums knows that I ... well ... don't want to brag, but I have very few "flakes!" 

Then I ask if she wants to bring some big buff dude to kick my ass, because I'm not very big ... sort of very average in height and weight at 5' 9" and 155 lbs, that two German women can take me down with ease!   But seriously, I find out what they are really thinking by making these jokes.  I really have no problem with "guests" as long as we've discussed it first.

So there you have it!  That is part of the reason I have so few flakes and no problems with "guests!"   I learned my lesson about picking up German models at the clubs though.  If you don't know them, it's not a good idea to invite them to your secluded studio in the middle of the night just hours after meeting them.  But I was a younger, and more adventurous man then!  The conversation I had with them?  I was told of the benefit of Communism and their disgust at the wall coming down recently!  No joke!  And how they build their portfolios by threatening the photographers!   yikes    Wish I had asked the right questions before the shoot had ended.   Live and learn!

I invite people i don't know to my studio all the time. And its in my apartment. Luckily i've never been assaulted by german women. Oh and models threatening photographers is actually kind of normal. err... "normal". This one model painted an imaginary scenario in her profile where she got hit on by a horny photographer and stomped on his ego. Not the best way to sell yourself... LOL

Feb 09 13 06:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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Supermodel Photographer
Posts: 3,309
Oyster Bay, New York, US


Ben Hinman wrote:
As interesting as they are, most models aren't wise enough to comprehend complex thermodynamics and special relativity... tongue Mostly its just simplified discussions about superposition and how the double slit experiment can be applied to the stars in the sky. Shit that actually applies to life.

Do you mean like flirting with Gell-Mann's wife (whom I met before he did)?

Feb 09 13 06:43 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


Supermodel Photographer wrote:

Do you mean like flirting with Gell-Mann's wife (whom I met before he did)?

I don't know who that is, but i'll pretend its still impressive.

Umm, yeahhhhh, i TOTALLY wish that was me. smile hahaha

Feb 09 13 06:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Fotografica Gregor
Posts: 4,066
Alexandria, Virginia, US


conversations during my photoshoots have touched on politics, religion, philosophy , Yoga and personal spirituality, irreligion, atheism, music and arts,  health fitness and exercise, economics, psychology, sociology, and a bit of MM or industry gossip here and there.  And a thousand other things...  oh - and who makes the best beer, which vintage of Alexander Valley Far Niente cab is best,  which vintage of Macallan single malt, and many other things....

I am honored to have become fast friends with several of my models and production team people -

I always look forward to meeting new people as well
Feb 09 13 06:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Supermodel Photographer
Posts: 3,309
Oyster Bay, New York, US


Supermodel Photographer wrote:
Do you mean like flirting with Gell-Mann's wife (whom I met before he did)?
Ben Hinman wrote:
I don't know who that is[*], but i'll pretend its still impressive.

Umm, yeahhhhh, i TOTALLY wish that was me. smile hahaha

*  MARCIA SOUTHWICK:
http://www.vermontstudiocenter.org/assets/Visiting-Artists-Bio-Images/S/southwick.jpg

Feb 09 13 07:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
JaneyGarnet
Posts: 85
Portland, Oregon, US


I'm a girl who shoots other girls,  so we talk about shoes and makeup.
Feb 09 13 07:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Harris Photography
Posts: 490
Edison, New Jersey, US


I'll talk with them about why I'm asking them to move certain ways in the light. I also will read profiles and blogs and will talk with them about things they wrote.
Feb 10 13 08:14 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Brianne L
Posts: 275
OTTSVILLE, Pennsylvania, US


Since I'm still new to modeling we mostly just talk about our experiences so far, good and bad. And I'm usually given more advice on how to pose, why certain things work and why certain things don't work, etc.
Feb 10 13 03:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,457
Salinas, California, US


Ben Hinman wrote:
I invite people i don't know to my studio all the time. And its in my apartment. Luckily i've never been assaulted by german women. Oh and models threatening photographers is actually kind of normal. err... "normal". This one model painted an imaginary scenario in her profile where she got hit on by a horny photographer and stomped on his ego. Not the best way to sell yourself... LOL

You don't mean you really invite complete strangers into your home, do you?   I mean you at least have talked with them on the phone?  Know their name, and perhaps more?  I might be confused?

I have shot with German models after that incident with no problem. The one jumping on my profile was a professional soccer player and coach.  See how high she jumped!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/PWalberg/natalie01.jpg


My problem is that the Internet wasn't something I could use to find models yet.  So besides running ads in something called newspapers, and wandering shopping malls aimlessly ... I would go to night clubs.   After getting kicked out of shopping malls, and that bad experience with the two German women, I don't go looking for "models" to bring home ... umm to the studio to shoot in the middle of the night anymore though.   tongue

Feb 11 13 02:27 am  Link  Quote 
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Faces2Die4 Photography
Posts: 426
Houston, Texas, US


Images by MR wrote:

We mostly laugh & talk about stupid threads on MM smile

Bwahahahaha

I'll have to remember that one.

Feb 11 13 05:02 am  Link  Quote 
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Fotticelli
Posts: 12,014
Lorton, Virginia, US


I start with the usual questions to break the ice, you know, what is your favorite music, how many men have you slept with, where are you going, stuff like that.
Feb 11 13 02:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art Silva
Posts: 8,935
Santa Barbara, California, US


Fotticelli wrote:
I start with the usual questions to break the ice, you know, what is your favorite music, how many men have you slept with, where are you going, stuff like that.

lol

i do the same thing but ill ask their real age first.

Feb 11 13 02:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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