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Photographer
Mask Photo
Posts: 1,382
Fremont, California, US


I'm dealing with an image right now, with some slightly asymmetrical facial features (eyes at differing levels and rotation and lips not symmetrical).

I've processed a version of the image, and the facial features lost all of their sharpness. The eyelashes merged, lips lost a little luster, etc.

I was using liquefy, with the "push right" tool. Should I have used smudge at a high opacity to move things where I wanted them?

I hesitate to post a sample, as the model is on MM and I don't want her to be upset at my criticism of her features. wink

Oh, this was a full-length shot at 85mm, but the face had recognizable sharpness to begin with.
Feb 09 13 03:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Cardmaverick
Posts: 28
Salt Lake City, Utah, US


Try making a selection and using the warp tool instead.

If you're doing drastic changes, you'll be stretching and deforming a lot of pixels. You gotta go easy with that sort of stuff.
Feb 09 13 03:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Bernard Wolf
Posts: 17
Santa Monica, California, US


If you have CS5 or 6 Puppet Warp also works well.
Feb 09 13 03:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Kristiana-Retouch
Posts: 287
London, England, United Kingdom


I also would suggest puppet warp or free transform/warp

Mostly I use one of them and then mask/invert and take back parts I need, so the other parts would stay untouched.
For example I've used puppet warp here:
http://fav.me/d5kz3pq
Feb 09 13 04:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
RSM-images
Posts: 4,223
Jacksonville, Florida, US


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Take one side of the face and flip it horizontally.  Than apply it next to the other side of the face.

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Feb 09 13 04:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mask Photo
Posts: 1,382
Fremont, California, US


RSM-images wrote:
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Take one side of the face and flip it horizontally.  Than apply it next to the other side of the face.

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not an option. one side is so shadowed that the lighting wouldn't match.

Feb 09 13 05:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Peano
Posts: 4,106
Lynchburg, Virginia, US


Mask Photo wrote:
I was using liquefy, with the "push right" tool. Should I have used smudge at a high opacity to move things where I wanted them?

I hesitate to post a sample, as the llama is on MM and I don't want her to be upset at my criticism of her features. wink

The liquify and smudge business sounds all wrong. I've moved eyes all over the place without doing that. Can't tell about your problem without seeing it.

http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af171/retouch46/Forums/eyes-3_zpscebf41f4.gif

Feb 09 13 06:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Motordrive Photography
Posts: 2,325
Lodi, California, US


I copy the feature and then transform, turn or whatever needs to be done.
You are still changing the pixels so there will be a loss of quality no matter
what method is used, it is more controllable this way.
Feb 09 13 06:08 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mask Photo
Posts: 1,382
Fremont, California, US


Peano wrote:
The liquify and smudge business sounds all wrong. I've moved eyes all over the place without doing that. Can't tell about your problem without seeing it.

jaja, I tried again by copying the eye and moving and transforming it, and it worked really well. I remembered seeing something about that on here (prossibly from one of your tuts, peano).

AND thanks to my nondestructive workflow, I was able to insert it into the image below all the adjustment layers (was a little annoying to have to split one section into high and low freq and then slide moth of those in and then adjust any masking that didn't line up, but it was FAR better than trying to match colors to a flattened final). XD

Looks fantastic now. I'm just working on redoing the sharpening and I'll be able to deliver it to the model.

Thanks, all!

I should really work on my techniques for facial manipulation. I don't do as much as I probably should to clean up minor facial misalignments.

Feb 09 13 07:15 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
btdsgn
Posts: 2,212
Wahiawa, Hawaii, US


The way Peano is doing it is the best way. I use a combination of all the ways listed above with liquify and warp being used for smaller adjustments.
Feb 09 13 09:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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