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Photographer

OmnyRa

Posts: 1029

Cincinnati, Ohio, US

I almost started a thread because I didn't see anything with "missing colorado models" in my search.  I got an email from the Colorado Modeling Network talking about the 3 missing women, and offering safety tips for models. My neck hair stood on end when she mentions never go to a shoot alone, as I'm an anti-llama herder photographer. But aside from that comment, there was some good advice.

I've been promoting MM, getting lots of new models to sign up, and it's even on my business cards.  I don't watch much news lately, but I guess it's time for two things: stay in the loop a little better, and take MM off my cards.  I wondered why my "Yes" reply rate had plummeted lately. At one point, I had the young lady above on my Friend list.  I hope she's OK. I work for a non-profit that helps homeless and runaway teens as just one of it's service areas.

Here's the link I was sent,
http://www.krdo.com/news/Three-missing- … index.html

and there's even mention of a story about a MM "manager" that is said to have attacked a Mayhem model.

The story ends with "Model Mayhem has an  F rating with the Better Business Bureau.

Sheesh!

Feb 26 13 12:11 pm Link

Feb 26 13 01:23 pm Link

Model

Adryana Athymia

Posts: 24

Rockcreek, Oregon, US

http://www.examiner.com/article/are-the … -connected

"However, the disappearance of Kelsie Schelling differs from the other two in that the young woman doesn't use Model Mayhem. In fact, her only modeling profile is on the entertainment site Explore Talent. She also apparently never finished filling out her profile, as mentioned in the first mentioning of it here on Examiner. So it's unlikely that she ever really used the profile. Maybe she created it out of curiosity once out of wanting to experiment with modeling, but then never got around to finishing the profile. One thing is for certain, though, and that's that Kelsie Schelling didn't appear to have the "modeling" presence that Kara Nichols and Raven Cassidy Furlong have online.

Also, there are other details in the Kelsie Schelling case that differ from those of the other missing girls. A coworker and friend of the missing woman claims that she was pregnant at the time of her disappearance, and was having troubles with her boyfriend Donthe. More recent reports indicate that Donthe has been arrested on "identity theft" charges, but officials refuse to clarify on those charges. Whose identity is he accused of stealing, and what does he know about his girlfriend's disappearance?"

Feb 26 13 01:33 pm Link

Model

Adryana Athymia

Posts: 24

Rockcreek, Oregon, US

UPDATES ON RAVEN – Raven did call her father’s house earlier this evening, everyone was thrilled to know she is alive and called home, sadly though the call was pretty bleek based on her demeanor with her step-mother Lynn. The call was very short and Raven appeared scared, she said: She said "mom, I was told to call and let someone know I’m safe, I’m safe. I have to go... I have to go... this isn’t my phone. I have to give it back now. I have to go now” and then hung up.

Although Raven phoned home, the family and those of us at NWCAVE are not convinced she is okay. We are continuing our search efforts for Raven and hope you will continue helping us find her. We will have another update first thing in the morning, please continue posting the flyers and helping us from Raven.

Feb 26 13 09:07 pm Link

Model

J Jessica

Posts: 2431

Coconut Creek, Florida, US

O____O;

Well, then.

Feb 26 13 09:17 pm Link

Photographer

Tim Little Photography

Posts: 11771

Wilmington, Delaware, US

The report of her phone call breaks my heart. It sounds like she is being held against her will and God only know what she is being made to do. My God I hope they find her.

Feb 26 13 09:20 pm Link

Photographer

John Photography

Posts: 13811

Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

Tim Little Photography wrote:
The report of her phone call breaks my heart. It sounds like she is being held against her will and God only know what she is being made to do. My God I hope they find her.

OMG that give me chills.......   

Is there a lot of this happening or just the 3 missing girls/women?

Feb 26 13 09:26 pm Link

Photographer

Tim Little Photography

Posts: 11771

Wilmington, Delaware, US

AdelaideJohn1967 wrote:

OMG that give me chills.......   

Is there a lot of this happening or just the 3 missing girls/women?

From what I know, and I may be wrong, three women from Colorado have gone missing. Two of the three were on MM and one was on another site.

Feb 26 13 09:31 pm Link

Photographer

John Photography

Posts: 13811

Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

Tim Little Photography wrote:

From what I know, and I may be wrong, three women from Colorado have gone missing. Two of the three were on MM and one was on another site.

Well then in that case maybe the person responsible is watching all these sites. At least that is the impression I get.

Feb 26 13 09:49 pm Link

Photographer

Tim Little Photography

Posts: 11771

Wilmington, Delaware, US

AdelaideJohn1967 wrote:
Well then in that case maybe the person responsible is watching all these sites. At least that is the impression I get.

Me too John. It could be that there is a predator using the llamaing sites as a place to find victims. It wouldn't be that hard to do.

Feb 26 13 09:59 pm Link

Photographer

Skydancer Photos

Posts: 22196

Santa Cruz, California, US

AdelaideJohn1967 wrote:
Well then in that case maybe the person responsible is watching all these sites. At least that is the impression I get.

Tim Little Photography wrote:
Me too John. It could be that there is a predator using the modeling sites as a place to find victims. It wouldn't be that hard to do.

Can you point to the evidence that connects these 3 separate missing person cases, or that a single person is responsible for each of their disappearances?

Feb 26 13 10:32 pm Link

Photographer

Cherrystone

Posts: 37171

Columbus, Ohio, US

Skydancer Photos wrote:
Can you point to the evidence that connects these 3 separate missing person cases, or that a single person is responsible for each of their disappearances?

Well yeah....

They're all on MM.
Hell they're even all in the USA
Also all in Colorado...
They all breath...
They all eat & drink...

Damn, massive dots there. wink

Feb 26 13 10:36 pm Link

Photographer

Skydancer Photos

Posts: 22196

Santa Cruz, California, US

Small Fruit Pits wrote:
Well yeah....

They're all on MM.
Hell they're even all in the USA
Also all in Colorado...
They all breath...
They all eat & drink...

Damn, massive dots there. wink

Two have profiles on MM. And all three have profiles on FB.

Feb 26 13 10:39 pm Link

Photographer

Cherrystone

Posts: 37171

Columbus, Ohio, US

Skydancer Photos wrote:

Two have profiles on MM. And all three have profiles on FB.

I surely hope that wasn't a whoosh...

Feb 26 13 11:17 pm Link

Photographer

Skydancer Photos

Posts: 22196

Santa Cruz, California, US

Nope

smile

Feb 26 13 11:20 pm Link

Model

Anna Adrielle

Posts: 18763

Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium

Tim Little Photography wrote:
The report of her phone call breaks my heart. It sounds like she is being held against her will and God only know what she is being made to do. My God I hope they find her.

not ncesessarily. could also be that she ran away from home (eithee because there is something going on at home, or maybe because she's running away from someting she witnessed or experienced that might be dangerous), but was informed that her family was worried sick about her and called them to make sure she's okay. We won't know until she is found (if she's out, calling people, I'm sure she'll be found soon!).

Feb 26 13 11:28 pm Link

Photographer

Stay Puft

Posts: 2413

Ofu, Manu'a, American Samoa

There is another thread on Kara Nichols. Her parents disclosed that she had been involved with drugs and prostitution.

https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=867098

So, jumping to conclusions about modeling or MM seems a little bit of a stretch in that case. Clearly she is more likely to have gotten into trouble with her other endeavors.

The phone call is chilling. But I hope they can use the phone records to figure out where she is.

Feb 27 13 07:27 am Link

Photographer

Lohkee

Posts: 14028

Maricopa, Arizona, US

Alec Dealty wrote:
The phone call is chilling. But I hope they can use the phone records to figure out where she is.

Well, they could very easily **if** they were doing anything about it. The police seem to be treating this as a runaway and probably have little interest in expending resources on it. The impression I get is that it is the family and some organization that is doing all of the leg work which in some respects puts them at a severe disadvantage as they don't have the same sort of resources as LE does. On the other hand, the power of the 'net is not to be underestimated.

Feb 27 13 07:37 am Link

Model

Adryana Athymia

Posts: 24

Rockcreek, Oregon, US

Skydancer Photos wrote:

AdelaideJohn1967 wrote:
Well then in that case maybe the person responsible is watching all these sites. At least that is the impression I get.

Can you point to the evidence that connects these 3 separate missing person cases, or that a single person is responsible for each of their disappearances?

There is no evidence.  It is an assumption right now that they are hoping leads them to the answers.  I don't buy it myself, but that's because one of the three women only had a half filled out portfolio on a site and no modelmayhem.  It sounded like she wasn't a model yet... but who's to say she hadn't taken off for her first gig and disappeared.  I believe that girls car was found abandoned in a Pueblo parking lot.

Feb 27 13 08:15 am Link

Model

Adryana Athymia

Posts: 24

Rockcreek, Oregon, US

Skydancer Photos wrote:

Two have profiles on MM. And all three have profiles on FB.

Could just have easily been a FB thing... or all cases could be unrelated but they are eerily similar.

Feb 27 13 08:17 am Link

Model

Adryana Athymia

Posts: 24

Rockcreek, Oregon, US

Lohkee wrote:

Well, they could very easily **if** they were doing anything about it. The police seem to be treating this as a runaway and probably have little interest in expending resources on it. The impression I get is that it is the family and some organization that is doing all of the leg work which in some respects puts them at a severe disadvantage as they don't have the same sort of resources as LE does. On the other hand, the power of the 'net is not to be underestimated.

They are in fact, calling her a runaway.  I guess because of her age and that she had taken a car when she left.  The number she called from was a restricted number and they cannot trace it because it wasn't long enough of a call?  That's what I get from it.  Also it was finally on the news last night but only for a minuscule fraction of the hour.

Feb 27 13 08:22 am Link

Model

Adryana Athymia

Posts: 24

Rockcreek, Oregon, US

There have been many confusing/contrasting rumors about this.

Here is a more clear and accurate description of the timeline of Ravens disappearance. 

http://myemail.constantcontact.com/Case … T9IqDYi8qM

Feb 27 13 09:24 am Link

Photographer

Lohkee

Posts: 14028

Maricopa, Arizona, US

Adriana Michelle wrote:
They are in fact, calling her a runaway.  I guess because of her age and that she had taken a car when she left.  The number she called from was a restricted number and they cannot trace it because it wasn't long enough of a call?  That's what I get from it.  Also it was finally on the news last night but only for a minuscule fraction of the hour.

I doubt it. If they are calling her a run-away then they will not expend any resources on her case (especially given her age). The call coming from a restricted number, or the length of the call, has no bearing on it at all. The TelCo can easily identify the number and show where it is "pinging" the towers. If the phone has active GPS they could probably also give her (by that I mean the location of the phone) exact location (within a few feet) at any given time.

It sounds like LE has probably opened a case and will wait for any information to come to them (if she gets picked up for something, etc) as opposed to actively looking for her.

Since this is basically a private "investigation" with limited resources, IMHO the best bet is to keep it in the foreground by flooding the net and hoping that someone who is aware of the issue spots her and gets in touch.

Good luck in finding your loved one. I hope that she is found safe and sound.

Feb 27 13 09:51 am Link

Model

Adryana Athymia

Posts: 24

Rockcreek, Oregon, US

Here is a terrible thrash at ModelMayhem, if you guys care to read.  Just wow.... How can they say there are not actually legit photographers and models on here?  Sure there are a lot of GWC's too but you can tell by looking at their pictures.  This whole situation of these missing models is quite unsettling.

http://www.examiner.com/article/model-m … sing-woman

Mar 01 13 03:27 pm Link

Photographer

Rob Ryan

Posts: 368

Glendale, California, US

salvatori. wrote:
I sent a simple tag to the OP asking for some clarification. She has been on the site yesterday as well as today. The 'missing model' was on the site yesterday.

sad

it could be that moderators or police have been given permission to log on to her account to review messages. Seems logical

Mar 19 13 11:24 am Link

Model

LovelyTerror

Posts: 230

Los Angeles, California, US

Praying for her... sadly photographers who refuse to let girls bring escorts increase the likelihood of these events. Always put your personal safety over a few photos...

Mar 19 13 11:39 am Link

Photographer

gpmcguire

Posts: 1169

Brooklyn, New York, US

Apr 06 13 12:30 pm Link

Photographer

Lora Weaver

Posts: 3541

Alexandria, Virginia, US

LovelyTerror wrote:
Praying for her... sadly photographers who refuse to let girls bring escorts increase the likelihood of these events. Always put your personal safety over a few photos...

No. Referring to the escort debate in this case.

Apr 06 13 12:32 pm Link

Photographer

Lora Weaver

Posts: 3541

Alexandria, Virginia, US

I really hope they continue to search for her.

Apr 06 13 12:33 pm Link

Photographer

Lohkee

Posts: 14028

Maricopa, Arizona, US

Lora Weaver wrote:
I really hope they continue to search for her.

Why would they do that when they have already found her?

Apr 06 13 12:35 pm Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

Lohkee wrote:

Why would they do that when they have already found her?

It's always in the last place you look.

Apr 06 13 12:36 pm Link

Photographer

Lora Weaver

Posts: 3541

Alexandria, Virginia, US

Lohkee wrote:

Why would they do that when they have already found her?

Didn't see that post! Ah!

Apr 06 13 12:37 pm Link

Photographer

Lohkee

Posts: 14028

Maricopa, Arizona, US

Lora Weaver wrote:

Didn't see that post! Ah!

I kind of figured that. I was just messing with you in a friendly sort of way lol

Apr 06 13 12:39 pm Link

Photographer

Jay Leavitt

Posts: 6745

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Wonder when we'll hear what actually happened. I doubt human traffickers let their captives attend Ninja Warrior tapings.

At least one report I've read she flat out said she was not lured away by a modeling site (though I'm sure that's going to get ignored)

Apr 06 13 01:25 pm Link

Photographer

Jason Haven

Posts: 38381

Washington, District of Columbia, US

gpmcguire wrote:
she has been found unharmed.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/06/mi … alifornia/

So does this mean that MM is not to blame for a kid running away? That can't be.

Apr 07 13 11:15 am Link

Photographer

R A V E N D R I V E

Posts: 15867

New York, New York, US

gpmcguire wrote:
she has been found unharmed.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/06/mi … alifornia/

HAHAHAHAH she left during her birthday month. Is now 18 and is free to do whatever in the big city. lmao she left colorado for los angeles and doesn't give two fucks!

hahaha, she'll be in New York City before you know it

btw, awesome. I might send her a message

Apr 07 13 12:34 pm Link

Photographer

Digitoxin

Posts: 13456

Denver, Colorado, US

R A V E N D R I V E wrote:

HAHAHAHAH she left during her birthday month. Is now 18 and is free to do whatever in the big city. lmao she left colorado for los angeles and doesn't give two fucks!

hahaha, she'll be in New York City before you know it

btw, awesome. I might send her a message

The "little fact" of her majority-turning birthday occurring in the same month she "disappeared" was one of those "inconvenient" facts that those looking to use this case to gain traction for their agenda failed to mention.

Apr 07 13 02:36 pm Link

Photographer

Kezins Photography

Posts: 1389

Beckley, West Virginia, US

There's still dangers of abduction and human trafficking in the U.S. but it's extremely rare and not as common as most people think.  I used to do police work.  The vast majority of people who go missing do so by choice.  We're still relatively safe here for the most part.

Apr 07 13 02:40 pm Link

Photographer

Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

Apr 07 13 02:45 pm Link

Photographer

Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

Apr 07 13 03:02 pm Link