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OmnyRa
Posts: 1,029
Indianapolis, Indiana, US


Consider the following as if you were looking for a model for a personal project, and the costs involved in the shoot would all come out of your own finances:

I just looked at a model port and her rates sent me into shock!  She had some features that I personally found highly desireable, but not so much so that I could justify paying $100/hr MORE than many signed, highly sought after models on Mayhem, whose posing, emoting, overall portfolio and Credits were off the charts compared to her.

No, I'm not challenging anyone's right to ask for whatever they want if they can get it, but it made me consider what I would expect from the model, what would need to be the final result, and what would I get from shooting with them, to justify paying by far, the highest I ever paid for a model.
Feb 14 13 12:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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L A U B E N H E I M E R
Posts: 8,639
Seattle, Washington, US


it really depends on what the budget is.

$100/h might be too low a price.
Feb 14 13 12:29 pm  Link  Quote 
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B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25,319
Bath, England, United Kingdom


I can't afford to pay models for personal projects as my overall budget for test shoots rarely rises into double figures...

So my limit would have to be $0, sadly sad

However, for the record, I will say that I believe there are plenty of models here who thoroughly deserve to be earning significantly in excess of $50 or even $100 per hour if they can get it and I have no problem paying models their full rate when they model for one of my tuitions or workshops, for which somebody else is footing the bill.




Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com
Feb 14 13 12:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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ForeverFotos
Posts: 6,635
Indianapolis, Indiana, US


http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-jumping-smileys-380.gif
OP, your point is?...........
Feb 14 13 12:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Bravo Magic Images
Posts: 765
Temple City, California, US


If you cant aford the Pipper then dont get hyper dont cry and wear a dyper lol just kidding I know the nerve of some of thies llamas chargeing them big ass prices lol well mine are about the same 100 chuckles an hour will get me to photograph any llama.
Feb 14 13 12:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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LittleWhiteRabbit Photo
Posts: 134
Columbus, Ohio, US


My fave model Laura New Meyer charges $100 an hour, which includes makeup, hair and styling.  So for someone like me who is a fairly new hobbyist, that is as high as I would go for an experienced model.
Feb 14 13 12:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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L A U B E N H E I M E R
Posts: 8,639
Seattle, Washington, US


ForeverFotos wrote:
http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-jumping-smileys-380.gif
OP, your point is?...........

as the thread title states...the OP is asking what is the most you would pay a model.

Feb 14 13 12:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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photosbydmp
Posts: 3,808
Shepparton-Mooroopna, Victoria, Australia


highest i'm prepared to pay is $125.00 an hour.
Feb 14 13 12:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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DOUGLASFOTOS
Posts: 8,351
Los Angeles, California, US


I pay my models with Kittens....Lovable Kittens...

http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll480/PontyPhilip/Kittens.jpg
Feb 14 13 12:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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OmnyRa
Posts: 1,029
Indianapolis, Indiana, US


This one was asking $200. I've remotely considered $125 and even $150 if I was in a good financial place at the time, but that was when thinking about the upper echelon models that come through at times.  I started to wonder what the most expensive models on Mayhem charge, and didn't want to come out and ask that question.
Feb 14 13 12:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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Abbitt Photography
Posts: 11,587
Oakland Acres, Iowa, US


Realize, asking rates and actual accepted rates are often not the same thing.   I've heard of and experienced models accepting 1/3 of the rate they first state.
Feb 14 13 01:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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Daeda1us
Posts: 1,067
Little Rock, Arkansas, US


I know a 'former' model who is now a professional (in a non-modeling field).
She made a lot of money when she was modeling and is internationally published.
I was discussing some art nude ideas with her, for her opinion only.. not trying to hire her.
She told me one of the ideas she really liked and would love to do something like that, but she was out of my price range....

$500/hr, 2 hr min.

I am sure there are models a lot more expensive than she is and if I had the money to burn, I would have hired her.  She is stunningly beautiful.

*shrug*

That is the highest rate I have been quoted, so far.

Daeda1us

edit: did a bit of googling and looking... found an MM model who charges $1,000/hr with 2 hr minimum.
Wow!
But hey.. what the market will bear, right?
Feb 14 13 01:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Gary Melton
Posts: 6,391
Dallas, Texas, US


Mark Laubenheimer wrote:
it really depends on what the budget is.

$100/h might be too low a price.

He didn't saying she was asking for $100/hour...he said she was asking for $100 MORE than many signed, highly sought-after models on MM.

edit - he later got more specific...she was asking for $200/hour.

Feb 14 13 01:12 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,875
Upland, California, US


OmnyRa wrote:
I just looked at a model port and her rates sent me into shock!  She had some features that I personally found highly desireable, but not so much so that I could justify paying $100/hr MORE than many signed, highly sought after models on Mayhem, whose posing, emoting, overall portfolio and Credits were off the charts compared to her.

WOW... so are you allergic to using the browse feature?  Granted... you're in a somewhat limited market considering your locale... but you and everyone here knows you can do better if you shop around... wink

Feb 14 13 01:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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Gary Melton
Posts: 6,391
Dallas, Texas, US


ForeverFotos wrote:
http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-jumping-smileys-380.gif
OP, your point is?...........

It's not rocket science - he's asking us what is the most we would pay for a Model Mayhem model!

Myself - a model would have to be pretty special for me to pay more than $100/hour (the most I've paid to this point).

I've hired some fantastic (nude) models for anywhere from $25/hour to $80/hour!

Feb 14 13 01:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12,116
Tampa, Florida, US


So I guess you won't be shooting with the "No Nudes...don't even ask...I have morals...and this isn't a dating site..." model who posted her rate of $300/hour with a 2-hour minimum, that I ran across today?
Feb 14 13 01:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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AJ_In_Atlanta
Posts: 12,775
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Well honestly there are a lot of cost involved in personal projects for me.  Locations alone can be hundreds of dollars or more, plus a nominal fee for a ins rider, while others are inexpensive or even free.  Then facto in hair, makeup and styling it's getting expensive before I even cast.  As for models.... It's hard to say really.  If you count the time and money spent testing models for agencies so I can occasionally barrow one it could be considered expensive, but difficult to really track it.
Feb 14 13 01:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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MainePaintah
Posts: 1,738
Saco, Maine, US


I believe the question is what is the highest price I would pay a model.

If I could pay a model at this point in time, I would say that my highest price would be a half day shoot (3-4 hours) at $300.

I do feel that I would be getting a good deal at that price, for some of the exceptional, gorgeous, fine art nude models that are here on MM.
Feb 14 13 01:29 pm  Link  Quote 
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M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12,116
Tampa, Florida, US


I didn't really answer the part of the question on what's the most I would pay for a model. Is this only MM models? Or any model?

I know it's a lame response but, the most I could afford at the time since I'm looking at this as a Wish List type of question. Yes, the random model with a posted rate of $200/hour often makes me shake my head. But there are a handful of models on here that I would gladly pay at least that to photograph if I had the disposable income at the time.

I'm afraid to name them because my inbox might fill up quickly lol. But as there was a thread recently about Legendary MM Photographers, there are also legendary MM Models.

Marty McBride and Doug Swinskey have worked with a couple models I would gladly pay to photograph.
Feb 14 13 01:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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Abbitt Photography
Posts: 11,587
Oakland Acres, Iowa, US


The most I've ever paid was $50/hour and I imagine it will be some time before I ever pay that rate again.  Trade to $30/hour is more typical of what I've paid nude models.  I feel as I pay beyond that I see a decreasing return that for me isn't justified.
Feb 14 13 01:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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ontherocks
Posts: 22,428
Salem, Oregon, US


i paid $125/hour once for a Playboy model. she was great. i still go back and retouch images from that shoot.
Feb 14 13 01:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Toto Photo
Posts: 2,737
Belmont, California, US


OmnyRa wrote:
I started to wonder what the most expensive models on Mayhem charge, and didn't want to come out and ask that question.

Suggestion: Next time come right out and ask what you want to ask. Saves everyone time.

$125/hr w/two hour minimum. She gave me some kind of break since we went half-day, can't remember what it was now though.

Feb 14 13 02:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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L A U B E N H E I M E R
Posts: 8,639
Seattle, Washington, US


twoharts wrote:
i paid $125/hour once for a Playboy llama. she was great. i still go back and retouch images from that shoot.

lucky.  most places have a touch and go policy.   tongue

Feb 14 13 02:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Image Works Photography
Posts: 2,890
Orlando, Florida, US


The most I ever paid a model was $80 flat out for 2 hours the most. I haven't paid one in some time even tho there some that are worth it.
Feb 14 13 02:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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A-M-P
Posts: 18,211
Orlando, Florida, US


I have been paid $150 an hour before  for a 2 hour shoot when I modeled. No nudes involved it was just for feet photos for a website did I get booked every week at that rate no but I did got a couple of gigs at that rate and the rate was offered by the photographer not me. I also got paid for a private collection 1k yup you read right $1,000  for 1 hour for some nude photos he was obviously rich  and it was just a hobby and a way to burn money apparently. Did I expect to make that much all the time no way but I guess I've got lucky.
Feb 14 13 02:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Chris David Photography
Posts: 464
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


I've been shooting just over 12 years now and have never had to pay a model out of my own pockets. Clients have paid for them when it comes to commercial shoots but for personal shoots/trade ones its under minimum to no budget - $100 max for props/materials.
That said paid ones must be experienced and comfortable/confident with their posing as need to get the "right shot" in a very short amount of time in most cases.
Alternatively the most costly model I've had from a personal shoot would be where 2 Canon speedlites, battery pack and portable power pack died in the one session (water damage on most).
Feb 14 13 03:04 pm  Link  Quote 
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fullmetalphotographer
Posts: 2,760
Fresno, California, US


My basic way of hiring a model is state how many hours, what is expected. I will state how much the job pays. I don't go by what the model quotes as their prices. I will cover travel and lodging. But it is from a hotel that I book. Travel expense is determined and is part of the fee. I will also piggy back my shoot onto a client's shoot to so the cost is nothing.
Feb 14 13 03:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jeffrey M Fletcher
Posts: 4,344
Asheville, North Carolina, US


$15-$25 per hour. I do usually work repeatedly with people and work longer hours.

The higher glam rates don't make sense to me, but I'm not shooting that kind of content anyway.
Feb 14 13 03:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54,145
Buena Park, California, US


DOUGLASFOTOS wrote:
I pay my models with Kittens....Lovable Kittens...

http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll480/PontyPhilip/Kittens.jpg

If they are included with a cup like the photo, I'll model for ya.

Feb 14 13 03:29 pm  Link  Quote 
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Marcio Faustino
Posts: 1,965
Freiburg, Baden-Württemberg, Germany


The best models I have worked charged no more tha 60 euro per hour.
And many models who wanted to charge more than 100 euro hour they do so because they have an special beauty or body shape but not because they are espetacular models.

The best models for my projects are classic dancers and ginasters and I usually pay them no more tham 30 euro per hour.

I decided that I only will pay more than 60 euro to a model if she is extremelly good. And only more than 100 if she is a model with certain fame which her face or name can sell my project.

Otherwise it is just waist of money, for me.

Two of the most beautiful and good models I shot for free. And one of them had have no experience at all, and she was great!
Feb 14 13 04:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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Vector One Photography
Posts: 2,736
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US


For a personal nude project the my usual rate is $100.00 an our but most I'd want to pay is $125.00 even with a 2 hour minimum. I'd go that high if they have a look I can't get many places or we're shooting somewhere that most models would turn down.  I have paid $600.00 for a four hour block for erotic work but I don't think I'd do that again.
Feb 14 13 04:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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Syosset Studio
Posts: 296
Syosset, New York, US


Marcio Faustino Santos wrote:
The best models for my projects are classic dancers and ginasters

What is a ginaster?

Feb 14 13 04:35 pm  Link  Quote 
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A-M-P
Posts: 18,211
Orlando, Florida, US


Undercover Nudes wrote:

What is a ginaster?

English is obviously a second language so I assume he meant gymnast.

Feb 14 13 06:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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J M
Posts: 372
Adelaide, South Australia, Australia


OmnyRa wrote:
This one was asking $200. I've remotely considered $125 and even $150 if I was in a good financial place at the time, but that was when thinking about the upper echelon models that come through at times.  I started to wonder what the most expensive models on Mayhem charge, and didn't want to come out and ask that question.

Agency models would put you a hell of a lot further back, sometimes even saying no no matter the costs, then that if you're not on there testing books.

Feb 14 13 06:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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Gianantonio
Posts: 7,877
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


OmnyRa wrote:
Consider the following as if you were looking for a model for a personal project, and the costs involved in the shoot would all come out of your own finances:

I just looked at a model port and her rates sent me into shock!  She had some features that I personally found highly desireable, but not so much so that I could justify paying $100/hr MORE than many signed, highly sought after models on Mayhem, whose posing, emoting, overall portfolio and Credits were off the charts compared to her.

No, I'm not challenging anyone's right to ask for whatever they want if they can get it, but it made me consider what I would expect from the model, what would need to be the final result, and what would I get from shooting with them, to justify paying by far, the highest I ever paid for a model.

Hm. It sounds like that's exactly what you're doing.

Feb 14 13 06:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ed Woodson Photography
Posts: 2,644
Savannah, Georgia, US


If I were going to pay an MM model, and I'm not, I would pay not more the $75 per hour.

There is one Model, out of Atlanta, that I might actually consider paying although I think her rates would be more than I can pay.
Feb 14 13 06:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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BobBarford Photo
Posts: 89
York, Pennsylvania, US


Personally I have paid $75/hr.  One way of controlling cost is to check into meetups in your area that allow you to schedule a private shoot as part of the event. Some models may offer a reduced rate since they often get multiple photographers book private sessions.  This might be in addition to whatever they may be paid by the event organizer.
Feb 14 13 09:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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Imageography
Posts: 6,768
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada


Mosh -

Worth Every Penny
Feb 14 13 09:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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nyk fury
Posts: 2,918
Port Townsend, Washington, US


OmnyRa wrote:
This one was asking $200. I've remotely considered $125 and even $150 if I was in a good financial place at the time, but that was when thinking about the upper echelon models that come through at times.  I started to wonder what the most expensive models on Mayhem charge, and didn't want to come out and ask that question.

i've paid a bunch. once. and nothing the rest. and been paid otherwise. the big payment, which i won't tell, was worth it. i am still, some years later, processing images out of that one simple, expensive shoot.

upper echelon...what is that? one model friend of a friend is one of those. i hated everything about what she presented to the camera. if i had paid for that, i would be surely kicking myself in the ass to this day. MM is not a place for big money spending, in my opinion.

Feb 14 13 09:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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David Stone Imaging
Posts: 940
Seattle, Washington, US


Here in the Seattle area my top rate for a llama that does nude work is $100/hr.  However, I rarely end up paying this for various reasons.  Also, I  rarely hire non-nude llamas, as nude llamas can do what they do.  (I will do TF with non-nude llamas, however.)

Recently a non-nude MM llama offered to llama for me for $175/hr, 2-hr minimum, and then offered that we might be able to meet somewhere in the middle. smile  Considering my $50 llamas have more to offer than she does, I didn't even bother to negotiate.

As it is, my typical llamaing rate is $50/hr., with a 2-hr minimum.  I have a lot of llamas to work through at this rate before I run out of talent and have to pay the higher prices that some llamas seem to be getting.
Feb 14 13 09:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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