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Stephen J Moss
Posts: 28
New Windsor, New York, US


I'm about to open my first studio and I was wondering how do models feel about a photographer having a wardrobe? Would you rather bring your own or do you like seeing new stuff?
Feb 15 13 10:17 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Paige Morgan
Posts: 4,058
New York, New York, US


Very few models will be upset with not having to style/provide wardrobe. smile


However, it can be tricky to keep the range of things you might need on hand as a photographer, depending on what genres you want to shoot.
Feb 15 13 10:21 am  Link  Quote 
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Zoey Blanche
Posts: 22
Riverside, California, US


Though im still relatively new, in my experience, I LOVE having some wardrobe there, but I always bring my own just in case, as there are times where a particular item I decided to bring last minute ended up being exactly what we ended up using.
Feb 15 13 10:24 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Daniel Chase
Posts: 511
San Francisco, California, US


I keep a large wardrobe at my studio. I never had a complaint. Thrift stores and estate sales are a great place to source wardrobe.
Feb 15 13 10:33 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Kozmina
Posts: 6,533
Colorado Springs, Colorado, US


Having wardrobe provided is always great BUT-

Keep the clothing clean

Make sure you update your wardrobe

Try not to shoot multiple models in the exact same outfits

Have a variety of sizes (especially shoes)

Keep your wardrobe organized and store it in a clean bin or closet if you have a lot of stuff
Feb 15 13 10:47 am  Link  Quote 
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angel emily
Posts: 1,020
Boston, Massachusetts, US


I don't want to be shot in things that are always used for every model, or even have been shot in a lot.
Feb 15 13 11:00 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Leone P
Posts: 515
Batley, England, United Kingdom


e m i l y wrote:
I don't want to be shot in things that are always used for every model, or even have been shot in a lot.

Why not? I don't mind as long as the wardrobe is clean. Its for my portfolio so regardless of wether someone else has worn it, its still new to my port. Bonus.

Feb 15 13 11:09 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25,319
Bath, England, United Kingdom


I have some stuff I use for shoots where I don't have a wardrobe stylist.

Most models seem happy enough to have a rummage at least, even if we end up shooting nudes smile





Just my $0.02

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Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com
Feb 15 13 11:38 am  Link  Quote 
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Lynn Elizabeth
Posts: 1,336
Coral Springs, Florida, US


I see no problem with a photographer having a nice selection of clothing. Sometimes it is much better than what the model may bring to a shoot. It is nice to have options. Also it can help a model with her own wardrobe expenses.
Feb 15 13 11:39 am  Link  Quote 
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V for Victory Modeling
Posts: 436
Roseville, California, US


It would definitely be a big plus to have a MUA more so than a wardrobe...I admit I'm not so great at doing my own makeup.
Feb 15 13 02:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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Amber Dawn - Colorado
Posts: 6,061
Castle Rock, Colorado, US


Ive done a few shoots where the Photographer provided the wardrobe. I don't mind as long as its clean and if there's lingerie it has to be brand new with tags still on with a receipt.
Feb 15 13 02:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Bravo Magic Images
Posts: 765
Temple City, California, US


One thing is never use the same panties you shoot with one model and then use them on an other model not kewl at all.unless she is freaky
Feb 15 13 02:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rays Fine Art
Posts: 6,016
New York, New York, US


Kozmina wrote:
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Try not to shoot multiple models in the exact same outfits

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That one's always troubled me.  I can see the ego aspect, especially in smaller markets where the fact may be more likely to be noted, given that it's a smaller circle, but in the case of a larger market, where the association is unlikely, or travelling models where it's even more unlikely, or in the case of period costumes, what's the practical point?  And if you're not going to shoot anyone else in the outfit, why not just give it to the model?  And if you do that, why maintain wardrobe at all?  Why not just hire a wardrobe stylist who, nine times out of ten, will just pull from her preferred sources so the same outfit is likely to be pulled from time to time anyway.

"splain to me, please.

Feb 15 13 03:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Red Sky Photography
Posts: 3,277
Germantown, Maryland, US


I style almost all of my shoots and supply wardrobe and often shoes and accessories.

I always ask the model to bring something she would like to shoot in too, and we often combine our wardrobe to make new looks. I do try not to shoot the exact outfit on more than one model, but you can often mix and match to get different looks.

Lingerie is a one time use commodity, the model gets to keep what she wears, an added bonus for good models.

Wardrobe is my largest expense.
Feb 15 13 03:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
angel emily
Posts: 1,020
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Rays Fine Art wrote:
in smaller markets where the fact may be more likely to be noted, given that it's a smaller circle

This.

And, you're right - it's not a big deal because it's original to my portfolio.  I just find it kind of boring to shoot something that's already been shot to death -- and certainly the photographer must feel that way after awhile? -- or perhaps I'm wrong in that assumption.

Feb 15 13 03:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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Brianne L
Posts: 279
OTTSVILLE, Pennsylvania, US


I really appreciate it when the photographer is able to provide the wardrobe since mine is a bit lacking. I don't EXPECT them to provide it, though.
Feb 15 13 06:29 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
photo212grapher
Posts: 1,538
Saint Louis, Missouri, US


I've heard some models complain about dirty clothing at other photographers' studios. It may have be laundered, but hanging on a rack in the open, it'll get dusty. That leaves the impression it is not clean or washed.

Since I do not want images of a dozen different models in the same outfit, I tend to buy the outfit with the notion of giving it to the model as part of her compensation.

If I had models or others hiring me for a shoot, then having a clothing rack starts to make sense. The shot is for them, not me. Repetitive images are not likely, but watch out on referrals. If you shoot one women in a red outfit, and she recommends you to a friend, then you suggest her friend wear the same red outfit, well, that'll be awkward.
Feb 15 13 06:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
karenjerzykphotography
Posts: 1,752
Boston, Massachusetts, US


I make 98% of all the stuff in my portfolio- headpieces, wardrobe, etc...No one seems to mind it, AT ALL.
Feb 15 13 06:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Stephen J Moss
Posts: 28
New Windsor, New York, US


Thanks guys for all the advise, I appreciate it.
Feb 15 13 09:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Tiffiney C
Posts: 569
Los Angeles, California, US


Having wardrobe already at the shoot is awesome. You may want to look into places like Ross, TJ Maxx, and thrift shops that have lower prices and name brand things. Once you feel that you've shot it more than you'd want you can do a shoot and offer the wardrobe as compensation smile

Tiff
www.TiffineyC.com
Feb 15 13 09:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Red Sky Photography
Posts: 3,277
Germantown, Maryland, US


Rays Fine Art wrote:

That one's always troubled me.  I can see the ego aspect, especially in smaller markets where the fact may be more likely to be noted, given that it's a smaller circle, but in the case of a larger market, where the association is unlikely, or travelling models where it's even more unlikely, or in the case of period costumes, what's the practical point?  And if you're not going to shoot anyone else in the outfit, why not just give it to the model?  And if you do that, why maintain wardrobe at all?  Why not just hire a wardrobe stylist who, nine times out of ten, will just pull from her preferred sources so the same outfit is likely to be pulled from time to time anyway.

"splain to me, please.

Shooting the same wardrobe on traveling models works okay  for some shoots because it is a new shot for the models portfolio. Not so great for a photographer to have the same outfit several times in his portfolio unless he can change it up a bit with different styling, MU & H and backgrounds, or a very different model.

I only know one wardrobe stylist who handles latex so I'm pretty much on my own for styling.

I use wardrobe and then sell to get something new.

Feb 16 13 04:52 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
JimBobLc
Posts: 199
Martinsburg, West Virginia, US


I usually tell the models I have some items, and they're also welcome to bring their own (polite way of saying if they're squeamish about wearing what I have then bring their own of that item). I think a model should have her own nice photogenic panties, bra, and shoes. However at the end of the day no panties no bra no problem lol. I did get one fairly large sized Uggs-style boot, a steal I thought at $12, that I thought would not obviously be too large looking in a picture, and most sized models could wear if they had no proper shoes.
Feb 16 13 05:04 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Erli
Posts: 532
London, England, United Kingdom


When I do test, I use clothes from the model, clothes I have (that I've collected for shoots) or I ask designers to lend me stuff.... Works just fine big_smile

There is nothing wrong with photographers providing wardrobe.
Feb 16 13 05:16 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
WIP
Posts: 15,375
Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom


e m i l y wrote:
I don't want to be shot in things that are always used for every model, or even have been shot in a lot.

'catalogs and fashion shows'. According to you port notes. Have you any idea how many models/shows clothes may have been worn ?

Feb 16 13 06:05 am  Link  Quote 
Model
angel emily
Posts: 1,020
Boston, Massachusetts, US


c_h_r_i_s wrote:

'catalogs and fashion shows'. According to you port notes. Have you any idea how many models/shows clothes may have been worn ?

I don't fully understand you, but in my experience, these things are typically shot in/shown once -- maybe twice... 

My comment was more in regard to the amateur photographer who photographs different models in the same outfits, which can quickly get boring, but I also see it from the other perspective that an original shot is an original shot...

Feb 16 13 07:06 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
WIP
Posts: 15,375
Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom


e m i l y wrote:

I don't fully understand you, but in my experience, these things are typically shot in/shown once -- maybe twice... 

My comment was more in regard to the amateur photographer who photographs different models in the same outfits, which can quickly get boring, but I also see it from the other perspective that an original shot is an original shot...

Fashion show clothes goes from venue to venue country to country and is worn by different models.

On the subject of clothes a lot of models look like they shop at K Mart. Very few have quality designer which is a must if your an agency model.

Feb 16 13 08:40 am  Link  Quote 
Model
angel emily
Posts: 1,020
Boston, Massachusetts, US


c_h_r_i_s wrote:
Fashion show clothes goes from venue to venue country to country and is worn by different models.

On the subject of clothes a lot of models look like they shop at K Mart. Very few have quality designer which is a must if your an agency model.

Okay, well, not in the market I'm in...

And, I am an agency model, and it's never been required of me to have my own designer clothes.  Nice, clean, pressed when asked provide own wardrobe?  Yes.  But never "designer", unless I'm modeling a designer's clothing, where I am here, and here:

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130214/16/511d843c73bd8_m.jpg  http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130104/18/50e790336ca43_m.jpg

Feb 16 13 09:09 am  Link  Quote 
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ontherocks
Posts: 22,304
Salem, Oregon, US


yeah, i think you're forced to select models based on the sizes you stock in your wardrobe.

Paige Morgan wrote:
However, it can be tricky to keep the range of things you might need on hand as a photographer, depending on what genres you want to shoot.

Feb 16 13 09:14 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
WIP
Posts: 15,375
Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom


e m i l y wrote:
Okay, well, not in the market I'm in...

And, I am an agency model, and it's never been required of me to have my own designer clothes.  Nice, clean, pressed when asked provide own wardrobe?  Yes.  But never "designer", unless I'm modeling a designer's clothing, where I am here, and here:

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130214/16/511d843c73bd8_m.jpg  http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130104/18/50e790336ca43_m.jpg

Models who test for folio shots will have a selection of designer clothes. But will own designer clothes as it's what makes them stand out from the K Mart crowd.

If a photographer can spend $1,000 on equip it's only right a model also spends on quality clothes.

Feb 16 13 09:43 am  Link  Quote 
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angel emily
Posts: 1,020
Boston, Massachusetts, US


c_h_r_i_s wrote:
If a photographer can spend $1,000 on equip it's only right a model also spends on quality clothes.

Never on a catalog shoot or a fashion show have I been asked to supply my *own* clothing.  That's the job of the designer.

For any other commercial job I've been on, I've been asked to supply my own wardrobe and the requirements generally look like this:  "No black, white or red shirts, casual pants, no jeans."  -- or, "Business look, heels, blazer, knee-length skirt or longer".   The clients DO want you to come looking nice, with nice clothing, true.  But the requirement has never been for "designer" clothes, and they don't care if you got them at K-Mart, either.

Feb 16 13 09:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
WIP
Posts: 15,375
Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom


NB I did state test/folio shots.
Models own should be quality as it speaks volumes.
Feb 16 13 09:55 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Kayz-Modelling
Posts: 294
Plymouth, England, United Kingdom


Stephen J Moss wrote:
I'm about to open my first studio and I was wondering how do models feel about a photographer having a wardrobe? Would you rather bring your own or do you like seeing new stuff?

I don't have any issue with a photographer having their own wardrobe, but I always bring some of my own clothes a long as well.

As said before you just need to make sure you have a varied look in there and plenty of different sizes.

Feb 16 13 11:27 am  Link  Quote 
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Eowyn-Rose
Posts: 156
Seattle, Washington, US


I've worked with photographers who have their own wardrobe, but I think I've only managed to get into their wardrobe once because they like what I bring better. It's not a bad idea to have your own stuff on hand. As a model, it's hard to fit into a "look" someone is planning without you sometimes so having a backup on hand is convenient.
Feb 19 13 05:35 pm  Link  Quote 
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J Emma
Posts: 51
MONROE TOWNSHIP, New Jersey, US


Tiffiney C wrote:
Having wardrobe already at the shoot is awesome. You may want to look into places like Ross, TJ Maxx, and thrift shops that have lower prices and name brand things. Once you feel that you've shot it more than you'd want you can do a shoot and offer the wardrobe as compensation smile

Tiff
www.TiffineyC.com

^yes. smile especially if you're shooting period stuff, pin up, or anything else that's harder for the model to get her hands on... Then you make sure the shot is styled the way you want it to be, and she saves a little on wardrobe without risking buying clothing you end up finding is not right for the image you are trying to create. I loveee when the photographer has a piece or two Ivan wear smile not that I've worked with a bazillion people. But on occasions where they did, I was happy for it!

Feb 20 13 10:30 am  Link  Quote 
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Affinity Finch
Posts: 652
Bodmin, England, United Kingdom


I ALWAYS bring either a hold-all or a suitcase with my wardrobe in but its always a bonus if the photographer brings something. smile It can add something to a shoot that you may not have thought of smile I don't mind shooting in something someone has already worn, like it has been said above, it's still new to my port. smile
Feb 20 13 10:40 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Charger Photography
Posts: 1,704
San Antonio, Texas, US


e m i l y wrote:
I don't want to be shot in things that are always used for every model, or even have been shot in a lot.

Exactly... don't want different models wearing the same stuff.

Feb 20 13 10:59 am  Link  Quote 
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kl-photographics
Posts: 296
Lemgo, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany


Kozmina wrote:
Having wardrobe provided is always great BUT-

Keep the clothing clean

Make sure you update your wardrobe

Try not to shoot multiple models in the exact same outfits

Have a variety of sizes (especially shoes)

Keep your wardrobe organized and store it in a clean bin or closet if you have a lot of stuff

+1
for special projects i think it's up to the photographer totally

Feb 20 13 11:06 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Marin Photography NYC
Posts: 7,038
New York, New York, US


Supplying outfits is never a bad idea. Any extra incentive you can offer the better. I have supplied outfits on numerous occasions and I just shoot for fun.
Feb 20 13 11:26 am  Link  Quote 
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Farenell Photography
Posts: 17,915
Albany, New York, US


It can't hurt if you have the time & space for it. As others have said, make sure their clean.

In terms of specifics items. I'd keep it to generic outfits like shirts. Maybe a versitle, stretchy waistband skirt.

Things like undergarments, bras, or bikinis, they'd probably have issues w/ for hygiene reasons (even if you say you wash them). Dresses, shoes, I'd probably stay away from because of the need to tailor them to the model's specific bodytype (& thus costing you money) to make it fit right.
Feb 20 13 11:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Steven A Thompson
Posts: 547
Los Angeles, California, US


I have a whole wardrobe full of wardrobe. Of course I shoot a lot of nudes, so much of it is lingerie, accessories, and stuff like that. I buy at used clothing stores, eBay, a bunch of cheap Chinese manufacturers (great for one time use) and of course the MM Market.

I've shot with a models own wardrobe, but generally I'm not interested if I've already seen it in her portfolio' unless I can do something new with it. I almost always give the model the clothing we use, unless it is a foundation piece (coat, jacket, etc) that I can use again. If its lingerie or underwear the model always gets the item. Honestly, I rarely want to shoot the same thing twice anyway, and if the piece is really expensive (latex for example) I will sometimes offer it as trade if that is desirable to both parties (unless it has to go back to the mfr).

The tough thing is shoes. If you're a size 7, I can accommodate. If not, please bring a selection or I will specifically find something for a particular model/idea.
Feb 20 13 12:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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