the second amendment has nothing to do with cruel and unusual punishment prohibitions
are you suggesting that a well armed militia take up arms against the state over a someone declared mentally retarded? that would be in line with the second amendment I guess
Virtual Studio wrote: Mentally retarded guy keeps being subject to mock executions with last minute stays.
Why do you say they were 'mock'? One branch of government was going ahead with the executions and two separate (co-equal) branches of government came in to stop it. In brief, a tie between these two is usually a 'push' (a stay).
Your words betray a deep bias and strange world view.
Virtual Studio wrote: All you 2nd amendment guys - why aren't you getting your knickers in a twist over this?
Why should they?
Virtual Studio wrote: Pretty clearly cruel and unusual punishment - so where are you now?
For the first 100 years plus execution was not considered either cruel or unusual, it is only recently that progressive activist judges found something that none of the authors of the Constitution saw there.
Now any punishment is considered cruel and becoming unusal, unless it is a third grader drawing a picture that has a gun in it of course.
Virtual Studio wrote: Mentally retarded guy keeps being subject to mock executions with last minute stays.
All you 2nd amendment guys - why aren't you getting your knickers in a twist over this?
Pretty clearly cruel and unusual punishment - so where are you now?
I am a 2nd Amendment guy !!! I am here !!!
So this guy is "being subjected to mock executions with last minute stays" and you claim this is cruel and unsual punishment.
You might be right, you might be wrong.
Who is the one delaying the execution ? Answer - The inmate is, he is the one filing the requests for stay.
Now, what exactly is the problem that 2nd Amendment guys can solve here that cant be equally solved by a 1st Amendment person or heaven forbid even a 9th Amendment guy ?
Personally, I can go either way on the death penalty in America. As it currently stands I dont think its applied very well.
I am willing to abolish the death penalty if we can uniform mandatory sentencing guidelines for 1st degree murder that mandates life without parole.
Given the fact the the average time served in America for 1st degree homicide is 19 years and 11 years for 2nd degree, it feels good to fry some dirtbags to make up for the other injustices.
All you 2nd amendment guys - why aren't you getting your knickers in a twist over this?
Pretty clearly cruel and unusual punishment - so where are you now?
Wow...NO details about the crime he was convicted of?....
NO consideration of THAT victim?....
having had a LOT of experience with the "special needs" community...I do not believe the raw IQ number satisfies the burden of proof mentioned.
Was he or was he not aware that his actions were wrong? The number doesn't answer that.
I will grant you that this is a rough case, but I am not sold yet.
Cultured Pearls Photo wrote: Wow...NO details about the crime he was convicted of?....
NO consideration of THAT victim?....
having had a LOT of experience with the "special needs" community...I do not believe the raw IQ number satisfies the burden of proof mentioned.
Was he or was he not aware that his actions were wrong? The number doesn't answer that.
I will grant you that this is a rough case, but I am not sold yet.
Some more info on Warren Hill...
Hill was sentenced to death for killing Joseph Handspike, an inmate serving a life sentence in the same southwest Georgia prison where Hill was incarcerated. Hill bludgeoned Handspike to death with a nail-studded wooden board as Handspike lay in his bed.
At the time, Hill was already serving a life term for another gruesome murder. Hill killed his 18-year-old girlfriend, Myra Wright, by shooting her 11 times in 1986.
Or, if they did MORE of them; they wouldn't be 'unusual'. So maybe they could do them for speeding or DWI or something, just to get the body count up.
I'm not against the death penalty because I believe it fits the definition of "cruel and unusual punishment" I'm against it because state sponsored killing is still murder IMO. It's not a deterrent and it's not applied equally and fairly in this country. Killing even one innocent person is not worth the risk IMO. It sickens me that the United States is behind only a few countries in the world in the number of people executed and those countries and all ones we consider to be lax on human rights.
I'm against the death penalty in ALL cases without exception. Life in prison without the possibility of parole is a far harsher - and cheaper! - punishment.
I'm not against the death penalty because I believe it fits the definition of "cruel and unusual punishment" I'm against it because state sponsored killing is still murder IMO. It's not a deterrent and it's not applied equally and fairly in this country. Killing even one innocent person is not worth the risk IMO. It sickens me that the United States is behind only a few countries in the world in the number of people executed and those countries and all ones we consider to be lax on human rights.
I'm against the death penalty in ALL cases without exception. Life in prison without the possibility of parole is a far harsher - and cheaper! - punishment.
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