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ArtisticPhotography
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Go out on the porch and fire off of couple of shots with a shotgun. That'll keep the bad guys away.

Joe, be serious. First of all, in your neighborhood that'd drive the Secret Service crazy. I don't think those boys would find it funny if you started shooting rounds over their heads.

Second, don't EVER shoot if you don't know what you're shooting at. Shooting a couple of rounds off, without having a target in mind, is just plain crazy.

Otherwise, Joe, keep up the good work. You're adorable.
Feb 20 13 06:42 am  Link  Quote 
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Hoodlum
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It is also illegal and in most cases a warning shot can be prosecuted as attempted murder. Old Joe needs to catch up on the law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW_xaTf5oqI
Massad will set him straight!

It also violates two of the four rules of gun safety. Joe needs to leave advice up to those qualified to give it.
Feb 20 13 06:50 am  Link  Quote 
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Orca Bay Images
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ArtisticPhotography wrote:
don't EVER shoot if you don't know what you're shooting at.

Somebody should've told that to Cheney.

Feb 20 13 06:57 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticPhotography
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Orca Bay Images wrote:

Somebody should've told that to Cheney.

What makes you think Cheney didn't know what he was shooting at? It is Cheney, after all.

Feb 20 13 06:58 am  Link  Quote 
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Orca Bay Images
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Lodi, California, US


ArtisticPhotography wrote:

What makes you think Cheney didn't know what he was shooting at? It is Cheney, after all.

Because the guy he shot was a wealthy land baron and corporate attorney. Republicans fellate guys like that, not shoot them.

Feb 20 13 07:04 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticPhotography
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Buffalo, New York, US


Orca Bay Images wrote:

Because the guy he shot was a wealthy land baron and corporate attorney. Republicans fellate guys like that, not shoot them.

Yeah, but once they hand over their money, they just get in the way when you're doing something important like shooting ducks. Besides, Cheney hadn't killed anyone lately and was a bit out of practice.

Feb 20 13 07:13 am  Link  Quote 
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Too Hot For Snakes
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Orca Bay Images wrote:

Because the guy he shot was a wealthy land baron and corporate attorney. Republicans fellate guys like that, not shoot them.

So Democrats fellate wealthy donors who happen to own ski areas in Colorado which give exclusive privileges to spouses of Chiefs of the Executive branch too, right?

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/all_dow … BcpShdZ80K

Feb 20 13 07:16 am  Link  Quote 
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Orca Bay Images
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Too Hot For Snakes wrote:

So Democrats fellate wealthy donors who happen to own ski areas in Colorado which give exclusive privileges to spouses of Chiefs of the Executive branch too, right?

But they don't shoot them.

Stay on topic, Skippy. This is about shooting irresponsibly.

Feb 20 13 07:24 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticPhotography
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I think Obama and Biden are playing "good cop/bad cop" with Obama being "we want to restrict guns" and Biden being "shoot the bastards". It's pretty funny.

He's not necessarily wrong, it's just funny to hear him say it.
Feb 20 13 07:27 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticPhotography
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Orca Bay Images wrote:

But they don't shoot them.

Stay on topic, Skippy. This is about shooting irresponsibly.

Remember, 15 or 20 years ago, Jerry Solomon (R, NY) who said something about his wife needed an assault rifle to defend herself when he wasn't home. Of course he lived in a nice suburban neighborhood but it sounded good. However, it made more sense when someone like Solomon said something like that because (a) he was Republican, (b) he was an ex-Marine and (c) he was insane.

Feb 20 13 07:35 am  Link  Quote 
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T
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lol!! I love Joe. Did you see him in the parade? You have to love that man.
Feb 20 13 07:49 am  Link  Quote 
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RennsportPhotography
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gotta agree with the OP on this one. Joe and reality are strangers, someone should introduce them.
Feb 20 13 08:45 am  Link  Quote 
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Jay Edwards
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Hoodlum wrote:
Joe needs to leave advice up to those qualified to give it.

Agreed, but he rarely does...

Feb 20 13 09:14 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticPhotography
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Ironically, he's suggestion that you shoot off a few rounds to scare people away, which means shooting at something/someone/some direction where you don't know what's going on.

Meanwhile in South Africa, that guys in trouble for supposedly shooting shooting a target he hadn't clearly identified. He did just what Biden suggested.
Feb 20 13 10:08 am  Link  Quote 
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Cultured Pearls Photo
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Washington, Washington Dc, US


Orca Bay Images wrote:

Because the guy he shot was a wealthy land baron and corporate attorney. Republicans fellate guys like that, not shoot them.

Yeah, and dems never do....way to redirect.
Biden is a wonderful exhibit of how the left thinks they know more than they do.
Regardless of your politics, the current VP of the US just told 300 million Americans it was a GOOD idea to go outside and shoot "in the air". An act that in a LOT of the country is a CRIME, not too mention a stupid ass idea. It is a violation of basic firearms safety rules (that most 12 year old Boy-scouts could tell you).
This is why libs don't like guns....they are afraid their guys will get guns?....

Feb 20 13 10:35 am  Link  Quote 
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surinity
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ArtisticPhotography wrote:
Meanwhile in South Africa, that guys in trouble for supposedly shooting shooting a target he hadn't clearly identified. He did just what Biden suggested.

thats what he says anyway

Feb 20 13 10:36 am  Link  Quote 
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Luke Ryan Photography
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Sarah Palin would have made a much better vice president than Joe Biden.
Feb 20 13 10:39 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticPhotography
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Maybe an assault rifle would have worked better.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ue84xK6wtNo/T8Pspys2j6I/AAAAAAAAB0I/dcVNgJL4ZBY/s400/stallone-tommygun.gif
Feb 20 13 10:49 am  Link  Quote 
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Smedley Whiplash
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Billings, Montana, US


Luke Ryan Photography wrote:
Sarah Palin would have made a much better vice president than Joe Biden.

You mean to look at? So would have Farrah Fawcett or Jenna Jameson.


But... it's a job that takes more then that...

Feb 20 13 10:53 am  Link  Quote 
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Cultured Pearls Photo
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Smedley Whiplash wrote:

You mean to look at? So would have Farrah Fawcett or Jenna Jameson.


But... it's a job that takes more then that...

If Biden can do the job, it is obvious that it doesn't require much at all....

Feb 20 13 10:54 am  Link  Quote 
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Guss W
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If I have the typical limited-round shotgun, why would I waste any rounds as warning shots?  The threat may be too drugged up to care.  Give me the high-capacity and I'll try a warning shot if I've got time.  Get the brain in gear and think, Joe, think!
Feb 20 13 11:58 am  Link  Quote 
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Smedley Whiplash
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Guss W wrote:
If I have the typical limited-round shotgun, why would I waste any rounds as warning shots?  The threat may be too drugged up to care.  Give me the high-capacity and I'll try a warning shot if I've got time.  Get the brain in gear and think, Joe, think!

I wonder if your neighbors would be comfortable with you shooting your high-capacity weapon towards their homes... and them?

Do they trust you can hit your intended target with every round?


" A 2003 study by the Police Policy Studies Council reports that shots fired by police officers that hit the intended perpetrator range from as low as 25 percent to approximately 50 percent. The article cites Baltimore County Police as being one of the "best trained police departments" with regards to firearm use. This study reports that this best trained Baltimore County Police Department's overall gunshots fired-to-hit ratio was 49 percent. In daylight conditions, the ratio was 64 percent and that dropped to 45 percent in low light conditions.

Additionally, the study reports when more than one officer is involved, called bunch shootings, not only are more police gunshots fired, but the gunshot-to-hit ratio is even lower. The number of shots fired increases at a range of 45 percent to 118 percent. The range of gunshots fired-to-hits ratio when one officer was involved was 51 percent, when two officers involved the hit ratio dropped to 23 percent and more than two officers were involved the hit ratio dropped to 9 percent. Additionally, the study reports that semi-automatic weapons had lower gunshots fired-to-hit ratio.

The study also reports that an estimated 70 percent of police shootings are what are called "point-shootings." Point shooting is where the shooter does not aim with the gun sights but, merely points the gun in the direction of the target. Upward of 70 percent of police shootings are reported to be point-shootings. Additionally, most "targets" are not standing still and may be firing back at the shooter so the shooter may also be moving, all factors that reduce the shots fired-to-hit ratio.

In addition, the study reports that the data of various studies regarding the target range scores to actual hits in real life live fire incidents is inconclusive. However, the indicators are that proficiency of range shooting has no correlation to proficiency in real life live fire incidents. Furthermore, the study reports various data and findings anywhere from 18 percent to 43 percent were "mistake of fact shootings." This means that the officer or officers erroneously interpreted the facts and misjudged that they were in imminent danger and needed to use deadly force.

While I was not able to find any data or findings regarding innocent bystanders being shot, I note that the nine innocent people wounded last August near the Empire State Building were hit by police gunfire.

From this report, I conclude that allowing citizens to have high capacity ammunition magazines is absurd.
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Feb 20 13 12:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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Guss W
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Clearwater, Florida, US


Smedley Whiplash wrote:
...
I wonder if your neighbors would be comfortable with you shooting your high-capacity weapon towards their homes... and them?

Do they trust you can hit your intended target with every round?

...

I'm certainly not going to pull a Joe Biden and step out onto full view of the balcony to do it.  I'm going to be concealing myself in the house.  Since I'm not limited to a hunting rifle for self defense, my rounds are unlikely to penetrate my concrete block walls.  My rounds are self-defense rounds, intended to have the energy fully absorbed within the bad guy.  Yes, I'm a decent shot, with or without the laser sights, and my laser sights make it a point-and-click operation.

If you had been in the Aurora theater, would your prime concern have been for the aim of a good guy in the dark?

Feb 20 13 07:15 pm  Link  Quote 
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Guss W
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Clearwater, Florida, US


Smedley Whiplash wrote:
...
From this report, I conclude that allowing citizens to have high capacity ammunition magazines is absurd.[/i]"

I only want as many rounds as two or three home invaders might be carrying.

Feb 20 13 07:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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sublime LightWorks
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Orca Bay Images wrote:

Because the guy he shot was a wealthy land baron and corporate attorney. Republicans fellate guys like that, not shoot them.

Speak for yourself.

Feb 20 13 07:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticPhotography
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Guss W wrote:
why would I waste any rounds as warning shots?

To wake up the Secret Service officers that are ringing your house?

Feb 20 13 07:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Lohkee
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Maricopa, Arizona, US


Guss W wrote:
If I have the typical limited-round shotgun, why would I waste any rounds as warning shots?

Due to recent significant price increases on ammo, do not expect a warning shot! Sorry, but times are hard right now smile

Feb 20 13 07:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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00siris
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Luke Ryan Photography wrote:
Sarah Palin would have made a much better vice president than Joe Biden.

lol

Feb 20 13 08:05 pm  Link  Quote 
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Bella la Bell
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Oh boy.
Feb 20 13 08:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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Lohkee
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Biden. The uncle that makes you really cringe every now and then, but you just can't help loving him to death anyway.
Feb 20 13 09:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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Guss W
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The Veep should spend more time reading government reports:
http://www.nraila.org/media/10883516/ni … y-memo.pdf
Feb 20 13 09:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Guss W
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Clearwater, Florida, US


ArtisticPhotography wrote:
Go out on the porch and fire off of couple of shots with a shotgun...

A couple of warning shots with a double-barrel shotgun yet.  Doesn't that leave you empty?  I guess Washington folks can handle deficits better than I can.

Feb 20 13 10:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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Christopher Hartman
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Hoodlum wrote:
It is also illegal and in most cases a warning shot can be prosecuted as attempted murder. Old Joe needs to catch up on the law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW_xaTf5oqI
Massad will set him straight!

It also violates two of the four rules of gun safety. Joe needs to leave advice up to those qualified to give it.

It's not his fault really.  They don't have to play by the rules us commoners live under.

Feb 20 13 10:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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Cultured Pearls Photo
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Washington, Washington Dc, US


Lohkee wrote:
Biden. The uncle that makes you really cringe every now and then, but you just can't help loving him to death anyway.

He just makes me cringe.
The only good thing is thanks to him, Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin look good by comparison.

Feb 20 13 11:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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Al Lock Photography
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Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand


ArtisticPhotography wrote:
Maybe an assault rifle would have worked better.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ue84xK6wtNo/T8Pspys2j6I/AAAAAAAAB0I/dcVNgJL4ZBY/s400/stallone-tommygun.gif

That's a Thompson Submachine Gun. Not an assault rifle.

Feb 21 13 12:28 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticPhotography
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Buffalo, New York, US


Al Lock Photography wrote:

That's a Thompson Submachine Gun. Not an assault rifle.

It's an assault rifle, at least by NY definition. It has a detachable clip and a pistol grip. You might also consider the recoil reducer to be a flash suppressor.

Feb 21 13 07:28 am  Link  Quote 
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Smedley Whiplash
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Billings, Montana, US


Guss W wrote:
I only want as many rounds as two or three home invaders might be carrying.

eYeah.

We know what you want, but as your neighbors, we don't want the same thing you want.

lol

Feb 21 13 08:25 am  Link  Quote 
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Guss W
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Clearwater, Florida, US


Guss W wrote:
I only want as many rounds as two or three home invaders might be carrying.
Smedley Whiplash wrote:
eYeah.

We know what you want, but as your neighbors, we don't want the same thing you want.

lol

I don't worry about about the cop across the street from me - Why should he worry about me?

Feb 21 13 12:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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Guss W
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Clearwater, Florida, US


Thank goodness this man didn't follow Biden's advice:
http://wtvr.com/2013/02/18/prince-edwar … -shooting/
Feb 21 13 08:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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hbutz New York
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Ronkonkoma, New York, US


ArtisticPhotography wrote:
Go out on the porch and fire off of couple of shots with a shotgun. That'll keep the bad guys away.

yea, that's a felony in New York.

Feb 22 13 04:12 am  Link  Quote 
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