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Model
Sharifa Sparks
Posts: 32
Emeryville, California, US


I woke up with a photo shoot idea and would like to know if anyone in the SF Bay Area knows of anyone that rents or allow their snake to be borrowed for a photo shoot?

Also if you are a photographer that owns a snake I am willing to work with you for the shoot as well.

Thanks in advance smile
Feb 20 13 10:06 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Erin Koski
Posts: 4,546
Ojai, California, US


I wish we were closer. I've had great success using snakes as second-models in shoots!  Good luck and I hope to see the photos!

-Erin
Feb 20 13 10:37 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Sharifa Sparks
Posts: 32
Emeryville, California, US


Erin Koski wrote:
I wish we were closer. I've had great success using snakes as second-models in shoots!  Good luck and I hope to see the photos!

-Erin

WOW! Bummer sad
I'll save your name & MM# so if/when I pull it off I'll be sure to share. smile

Feb 20 13 10:39 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Erin Koski
Posts: 4,546
Ojai, California, US


Thanks! Or if you find yourself visiting south California let me know. I have a friend with many good snake animal models we can use smile

-Erin
Feb 20 13 11:36 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Blue Ash Film Group
Posts: 9,319
Cincinnati, Ohio, US


It would be worth posting a crew call and see if anybody is interested.
Feb 20 13 11:38 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Sharifa Sparks
Posts: 32
Emeryville, California, US


Blue Ash Film Group wrote:
It would be worth posting a crew call and see if anybody is interested.

Thank you! I appreciate the help smile

Feb 20 13 05:03 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sharifa Sparks
Posts: 32
Emeryville, California, US


Erin Koski wrote:
Thanks! Or if you find yourself visiting south California let me know. I have a friend with many good snake animal models we can use smile

-Erin

Will do! smile

Feb 20 13 05:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Skydancer Photos
Posts: 21,904
Santa Cruz, California, US


Hi there,

Check out
http://www.modelmayhem.com/370164

Len is the owner of LensVisions studio in Fremont (20 minutes from you) and he has several snakes whom have appeared in lots of shoots with lots of photographers. Len is also a very nice guy and easy to work with.
Feb 20 13 05:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Shy L
Posts: 584
Burlington, Vermont, US


Yes, Len is awesome.  But he's a lot further than 20 minutes from you.
Feb 20 13 06:21 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Herman Surkis
Posts: 8,263
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada


Do not let snake eat the model.
Feb 20 13 09:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Stanley L Moore
Posts: 1,516
Houston, Texas, US


I wish you luck eith this ides. Many years ago inspired by the famous Svecon Natashia Kinski photo I wanted to do s snsme image. Two male models wantex to be photographed with their pets. It was difficult. Reptiles do not take direction well. I will never work with them again.
Feb 20 13 11:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Zack Zoll
Posts: 2,270
Glens Falls, New York, US


I'd strongly recommend having a handler nearby.  Unless the owner of the snake is a certified snake handler (I don't know the technical term, but I'm not talking about snake charmers), it could be an insurance nightmare.  Bites are not uncommon, and even though a python won't kill the model, broken wrists and bruises are definitely a possibility.  If you're using strobes, this might be more likely than hot lights, which the snake (or any dangerous animal) can adapt to.

Also, be sure you have ALL your waivers and other paperwork in order.  If there is even the slightest incident, you WILL need them.

Depending on your budget, your best bet might be to only photograph snakes with their owners, since they are already legally liable for anything that animal does.

That said, SF is probably the largest photo community in the US, aside from the New York Metro area, so I'm sure you'll find a lot of leads.  I'd start with the various zoos and animal sanctuaries, and go from there.  They might not be able to help you themselves, but chances are good that they've been asked before, and can point you in the right direction.

Edit:  I just realized you were a model, and not a photographer.  Well, I guess that's all somebody else's problem then.  Even so, be careful, and good luck!
Feb 21 13 06:55 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Matt Knowles
Posts: 3,556
Ferndale, California, US


Shy L wrote:
Yes, Len is awesome.  But he's a lot further than 20 minutes from you.

Google says 36 minutes. Hardly a problem.

Feb 21 13 09:42 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Matt Knowles
Posts: 3,556
Ferndale, California, US


Stanley L Moore wrote:
Reptiles do not take direction well.

This. I did a snake shoot with the owner as the model (after the first model freaked out when she saw the snakes, even after she said she would be ok doing a snake shoot, couldn't even get her to touch the snake).

She had two boas, an albino that was about 8' and another that was about 9'. I had concepts for each snake, and what I found is there was no way to pose a snake. They will do what they want to do. I ended up with a few I liked, but they were different from what I had planned.

Many of the shots ended up being too similar to the famous Kimski snake photo and I've never used those.

Feb 21 13 09:49 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Marin Photography NYC
Posts: 6,766
New York, New York, US


Snakes can't be trained...they do what they want to do. I would suggest a puppy, it's safer!! haha
Feb 21 13 10:01 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Herman Surkis
Posts: 8,263
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada


Marin Photography wrote:
Snakes can't be trained...they do what they want to do. I would suggest a puppy, it's safer!! haha

I know. My snakes act like some models, " no, the other left".

Feb 21 13 11:00 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Daniel Chase
Posts: 505
San Francisco, California, US


Try messaging Breanna Baker #2163750 she has a Boa I have shot with before. http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/12 … 7ebdfe.jpg
Feb 21 13 06:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sharifa Sparks
Posts: 32
Emeryville, California, US


Skydancer Photos wrote:
Hi there,

Check out
http://www.modelmayhem.com/370164

Len is the owner of LensVisions studio in Fremont (20 minutes from you) and he has several snakes whom have appeared in lots of shoots with lots of photographers. Len is also a very nice guy and easy to work with.

FANTASTIC!!! Thank you smile

Feb 21 13 09:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sharifa Sparks
Posts: 32
Emeryville, California, US


Daniel Chase wrote:
Try messaging Breanna Baker #2163750 she has a Boa I have shot with before. http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/12 … 7ebdfe.jpg

Thank you!!! smile

Feb 21 13 09:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sharifa Sparks
Posts: 32
Emeryville, California, US


Zack Zoll wrote:
I'd strongly recommend having a handler nearby.  Unless the owner of the snake is a certified snake handler (I don't know the technical term, but I'm not talking about snake charmers), it could be an insurance nightmare.  Bites are not uncommon, and even though a python won't kill the model, broken wrists and bruises are definitely a possibility.  If you're using strobes, this might be more likely than hot lights, which the snake (or any dangerous animal) can adapt to.

Also, be sure you have ALL your waivers and other paperwork in order.  If there is even the slightest incident, you WILL need them.

Depending on your budget, your best bet might be to only photograph snakes with their owners, since they are already legally liable for anything that animal does.

That said, SF is probably the largest photo community in the US, aside from the New York Metro area, so I'm sure you'll find a lot of leads.  I'd start with the various zoos and animal sanctuaries, and go from there.  They might not be able to help you themselves, but chances are good that they've been asked before, and can point you in the right direction.

Edit:  I just realized you were a model, and not a photographer.  Well, I guess that's all somebody else's problem then.  Even so, be careful, and good luck!

Appreciate the feedback though... A lot of things to consider even as a model.
Thank you

Feb 21 13 09:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sharifa Sparks
Posts: 32
Emeryville, California, US


Marin Photography wrote:
Snakes can't be trained...they do what they want to do. I would suggest a puppy, it's safer!! haha

AHAHA! Puppies are really cute! However I have a concept in mind thats much different than some of the other bay area models that I've come across... But I will keep that in mind smile LOL

Feb 21 13 09:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sharifa Sparks
Posts: 32
Emeryville, California, US


Stanley L Moore wrote:
I wish you luck eith this ides. Many years ago inspired by the famous Svecon Natashia Kinski photo I wanted to do s snsme image. Two male models wantex to be photographed with their pets. It was difficult. Reptiles do not take direction well. I will never work with them again.

WOW.. & Yikes!!
Thanks for the honest feedback. I will take that into consideration smile

Feb 21 13 09:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
R Michael Walker
Posts: 11,960
Costa Mesa, California, US


I've done lots of shoots with snakes with ZERO incidents. Not always do I get the shot I want. The smaller the snake the more flighty it is. The larger the more sluggish and there fore passable. Just make sure you get one that is used to being handled. Strobes are better than hot lights. Snakes will move away from bright light and strobes with smaller modeling lights are not the problem that hot lights are in that respect. They also stop motion, like flicking tongues. I ALWAYS use handlers unless I ma shoot an owner with their pet.
Feb 21 13 09:41 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dave Mullins
Posts: 1,772
Nashua, New Hampshire, US


Snake shoots are great. look at my avatar.  Bella, the Albino Burmese Python, was 20' long at 300 pounds. I have my own 8' Red Tail Boa and have had a couple of 11' Bumese Pythons to use. I have also got 30 Tarantulas at home too.

Malodave
Feb 22 13 03:09 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Shy L
Posts: 584
Burlington, Vermont, US


Matt Knowles wrote:
Google says 36 minutes. Hardly a problem.

Google is not always entirely accurate.  It took me ~45 minutes to go from the Centerville district of Fremont (which is where Len's studio is) to Emeryville.  Whether it is a problem depends on the model - how far she is willing to travel, whether she's got a car, etc.  It's close to a bus stop, but no car means BART + bus and some people just don't like the hassle.  Especially in an area where they could find something closer.

Feb 22 13 07:55 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dave Mullins
Posts: 1,772
Nashua, New Hampshire, US


Vivid Snake Photos Come at a Cost — A Bite From a Black Mamba

http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2013/02/ma … deid-16378


Nice Pics though.

Malodave
Feb 22 13 09:43 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Marin Photography NYC
Posts: 6,766
New York, New York, US


Not to be an ass or anything but this snake thing has been done to death really....I would suggest a Tiger! A real one!...
Feb 22 13 09:49 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Robert Jewett
Posts: 2,428
al-Marsā, Tunis, Tunisia


Marin Photography wrote:
Not to be an ass or anything but this snake thing has been done to death really....I would suggest a Tiger! A real one!...

Please.  It still needs to be done with caution tape.

Feb 22 13 11:21 pm  Link  Quote 
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