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Photographer
M K
Posts: 251
Athens, Attikí, Greece


Hi there,
since for Europe Einstein Strobes are double the price. Before I make an order for the Flash, I need to know if I can get a 22'' Beauty Dish that fits it and is not so expensive. Any suggestions?

Thank you!
Feb 21 13 04:00 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
T-D-L
Posts: 10,105
Los Angeles, California, US


The standard alien bee one fits ($80).  I've seen alien bee speedrings for mola demi dishes (~$280 IIRC) too.
Feb 21 13 04:04 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M K
Posts: 251
Athens, Attikí, Greece


T-D-L wrote:
The standard alien bee one fits ($80).  I've seen alien bee speedrings for mola demi dishes (~$280 IIRC) too.

Hi!
Do you mean this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16-Studio-Pho … 4d092f5e3d

Feb 21 13 07:31 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
In Balance Photography
Posts: 3,370
Boston, Massachusetts, US


I use a speedotron bd with kacey adapter ring
Feb 21 13 07:37 am  Link  Quote 
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SKITA Studios
Posts: 1,563
Boston, Massachusetts, US


In Balance Photography wrote:
I use a speedotron bd with kacey adapter ring

Ditto, but those might not be available in Greece.
Mola Demi is probably the best choice there....you'll be disappointed in the PCB dish when you get it in your hands...

Feb 21 13 09:28 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
sultanphotography
Posts: 814
Chicago, Illinois, US


You can buy the Mola and have to get the speeding ( I have that ) can get expensive but nothing beats that beauty dish (I own that... I own the buff, and the profoto one). I now take my profoto one on location because it is smaller and lighter, keep the mola in the studio and never use the paul buff one.
Feb 21 13 09:45 am  Link  Quote 
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Fotografica Gregor
Posts: 4,065
Alexandria, Virginia, US


You get what you pay for with beauty dishes...  go Mola and get the Kacey adapter....
Feb 21 13 09:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M K
Posts: 251
Athens, Attikí, Greece


Has anyone ordered a kacey adapter and the demi mola from Europe that you know of? I 'll keep searching
Feb 21 13 10:32 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jacob delaRosa
Posts: 208
Birmingham, Alabama, US


I just bought my einstien last week and used a 22" rps beuaty dish made for speedlights I had lying around. Works like a charm.
Feb 21 13 07:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Sentimental-SINtimental
Posts: 1,314
Castle Rock, Washington, US


theres a 27" beauty dish on ebay... it works fine and won't break the bank
don't believe all the hype on Molas
People pump it up bigger than what they are... if Mola didn't make the Setti then people would say it was a terrible BD because of shape. If Mola made the Speedotron dish also then people would be fine with it.

There is a Korean company that makes a dish that is very simular to the Setti but people put it down too as being a bad Setti wanna be.

To this day no one can see a picture and know what beauty dish it was taken with be the results
Feb 21 13 07:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photos by Lorrin
Posts: 6,903
Eugene, Oregon, US


A European brand that was very popular was Balcar and that is the mount that is used by Einstein.

You should be able to find used Balcar beauty dishes in EU.

They were French and Swiss.

(Chicken and egg problem - Paul Buff choose the Balcar mount for his White Lightning line (now Alienbees and Einstein)

At one time, many strobe brands used this mount but they seem to have gone out of business as has Balcar)
Feb 21 13 10:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Raven Photography
Posts: 2,547
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia


M K wrote:
Hi there,
since for Europe Einstein Strobes are double the price. Before I make an order for the Flash, I need to know if I can get a 22'' Beauty Dish that fits it and is not so expensive. Any suggestions?

Thank you!

As others have already said. The 22 inch Mola Demi beauty dish can be bought with the speed ring to fit your flash heads. But my apologies it is expensive sad

Feb 21 13 10:42 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M K
Posts: 251
Athens, Attikí, Greece


Lorin Edmonds wrote:
A European brand that was very popular was Balcar and that is the mount that is used by Einstein.

You should be able to find used Balcar beauty dishes in EU.

They were French and Swiss.

I am finding it very hard to find it. Any suggestions? Thank you.

No, Balcar has closed. No used ones.. Thank you.

Also, In case I get the one from PCB can I mount a different brand grid on it?

Feb 22 13 01:56 am  Link  Quote 
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Feverstockphoto
Posts: 491
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/walimex-Unive … 58934f050f


The same one is on amazon uk for £94.54 with free delivery. 

The pcb one white or silver uk/europe store will cost around delivered £148 = $226 https://www.paulcbuff.eu.com/_mycart?ts=20130222205040

I edited this post.
Feb 22 13 02:36 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M K
Posts: 251
Athens, Attikí, Greece


Feverstockphoto wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/walimex-Unive … 58934f050f


The same one is on amazon uk for £94.54 with free delivery.

hmm I saw this one, but it comes in silver and it is for Balcar lights. Does this mean it will fit the einsteins?

Feb 22 13 02:47 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Feverstockphoto
Posts: 491
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom


Lorin Edmonds wrote:
A European brand that was very popular was Balcar and that is the mount that is used by Einstein.

You should be able to find used Balcar beauty dishes in EU.

They were French and Swiss.

According to this post by Lorin and other posts i have seen on the topic it fits (is the same mount). I was looking at the same a couple of weeks ago for my einstein but can't afford to spend at the moment....

Feb 22 13 02:57 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M K
Posts: 251
Athens, Attikí, Greece


Feverstockphoto wrote:

According to this post by Lorin and other posts i have seen on the topic it fits (is the same mount). I was looking at the same a couple of weeks ago for my einstein but can't afford to spend at the moment....

Yes, but they told me Balcar has closed. I can't find a homepage, or someone that sends in Europe.

Feb 22 13 03:14 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Feverstockphoto
Posts: 491
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom


You just need the one i linked from Ebay which can also be found on Amazon. It comes with the correct adapter. Read the tips listed on that ebay page it can fit variety of lights with correct adapter that they sell. 

No need to purchase one as it is included - Click on where it says included -
    1x walimex Beauty Dish universal connection, 56cm
    1x Adapter for Balcar

Balcar fits Einstein from what i have read on several websites so it fits smile.
Feb 22 13 04:54 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Feverstockphoto
Posts: 491
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom


The Ebay one ships to Europe and rest of the world, read shipping information, there is also contact number and email if you need to speak to them.
Feb 22 13 05:00 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M K
Posts: 251
Athens, Attikí, Greece


ok, thank you!
Feb 22 13 04:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rich Arnold Photography
Posts: 938
Los Angeles, California, US


Calumet sells a 22" B.D. for $100 and also sells a speed ring for Einstein. That's what I'm using. Comes with a sock and you can buy a grid.
Feb 22 13 04:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M K
Posts: 251
Athens, Attikí, Greece


Rich Arnold Photography wrote:
Calumet sells a 22" B.D. for $100 and also sells a speed ring for Einstein. That's what I'm using. Comes with a sock and you can buy a grid.

very usefull info! can you give me tha specific product links of the products from this site plz?



http://www.calumetphoto.co.uk/eng/search/speedrings

http://www.calumetphoto.co.uk/eng/search/beauty%20dish

Feb 24 13 01:29 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
JMHSPhoto
Posts: 412
Windsor, Ontario, Canada


I made 2 of my own.

1 white
1 silver.

They're stellar. Total investment in both dishes (including socks) about $75.00 and a whole lot of fun making them.
Feb 26 13 03:09 am  Link  Quote 
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sultanphotography
Posts: 814
Chicago, Illinois, US


Calumet for the price is pretty good. It is silver though. but the grids are affordable too. My 22 inch has cost me close to $1000 now. you get the Beauty dish for $300, Profoto Ring for $200, 2 grids for $350, case for $300.

But it produces amazing light.
Feb 26 13 05:14 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FKW Studio
Posts: 106
Crofton, Maryland, US


Personally happy with the 22" white bees dish with sock and grid.
Feb 26 13 02:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Nick Verbenec
Posts: 17
Basehor, Kansas, US


I just ordered the Kacey BD with adapters for both the Einstein and also for speedlights.
Feb 26 13 03:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Fotografica Gregor
Posts: 4,065
Alexandria, Virginia, US


BTW the top three rows in my portfolio were shot with the Mola Demi.....
Feb 26 13 04:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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