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Raoul Isidro Images
Posts: 5,534
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


US users go here:

http://support.nikonusa.com/app/answers … a_id/18180

European users go here:

https://nikoneurope-en.custhelp.com/app … a_id/55647

"...(spots) removal may be difficult using normal measures."

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Feb 22 13 02:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Artifice
Posts: 30,954
Los Angeles, California, US


This doesn't apply to D800s?
Feb 22 13 06:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Michael Broughton
Posts: 2,089
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada


"While the structure and concept of digital-SLR cameras makes the complete elimination of these dust spots very difficult, it has come to our attention that, in some rare cases, they may be reflected noticeably in images." dust spots can show up in photos? really? i'm so glad somebody brought that to nikon's attention. tongue
Feb 22 13 07:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Chuckarelei
Posts: 9,077
Seattle, Washington, US


I wonder why they won't say what causes the problem?

Dust does accumulate over time with DSLR. Is the D600 especially bad compare to some of the previous models?
Feb 22 13 07:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,122
Upland, California, US


D600 owner here with over 2000 shutter clicks.  Haven't came across ONE SINGLE SPOT on the sensor as of yet... and I have REALLY been looking... wink
Feb 22 13 07:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
D M E C K E R T
Posts: 4,786
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


d600 owner here with over 2000 clicks...have a fine crust developing on the corners of my sensor!
Feb 22 13 07:29 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Marin Photography NYC
Posts: 6,098
New York, New York, US


D M E C K E R T wrote:
d600 owner here with over 2000 clicks...have a fine crust developing on the corners of my sensor!

You had better get that hamster out of there and replace him with a real battery!! (kidding)

Feb 22 13 07:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Stout Photography
Posts: 349
Denver, Colorado, US


Nikon has a known issue with not sealing the camera bodies very well, and this is true on some of the higher end cameras too such as the D700 and the D300.  I've been told the D800 is better, but I tend to doubt that.  It would be nice if they would tend to this detail!  On $3000 and up cameras, it is not too much to ask.
Feb 22 13 07:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
D M E C K E R T
Posts: 4,786
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Marin Photography wrote:

You had better get that hamster out of there and replace him with a real battery!! (kidding)

oh, but he's cute! and it really does get several hundred more shots than the EL15. lol

Feb 22 13 08:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Phil Drinkwater
Posts: 4,701
Manchester, England, United Kingdom


Finally they're listening to their users problems!
Feb 23 13 01:05 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
R Michael Walker
Posts: 11,939
Costa Mesa, California, US


Mark Stout Photography wrote:
Nikon has a known issue with not sealing the camera bodies very well, and this is true on some of the higher end cameras too such as the D700 and the D300.  I've been told the D800 is better, but I tend to doubt that.  It would be nice if they would tend to this detail!  On $3000 and up cameras, it is not too much to ask.

4500 shots on my D800 without any issues. And I am NOT naturally a lucky guy so I doubt I go the only perfect one. And before you say anything,I'm more picky than most anyone and WOULD notice quality problems in smomething i paid over $6k for with only 2 lenses. I don't have that sort of disposable income. The D300 had over 50K clicks when I sold it and no problems there either. Never owned a D700. Not enough advantages over the D300s to make it worth my $$. Not that it wasn't the perfect Nikon for others. Just not me. The D800 IS my ideal camera at this time. The 600..not so much but MAYBE as a second body if I can't justify a D800E for a supporting role.

Feb 23 13 01:41 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ade Barkah
Posts: 35
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Mark Stout Photography wrote:
Nikon has a known issue with not sealing the camera bodies very well, and this is true on some of the higher end cameras too such as the D700 and the D300.  I've been told the D800 is better, but I tend to doubt that.  It would be nice if they would tend to this detail!  On $3000 and up cameras, it is not too much to ask.

Hmm?  The D700 is a camera well known for its excellent weather sealing, especially compared to its closest competitor the 5Dmk2 (which is not sealed).

As I specialize in travel photography I've been shooting two D700 bodies and a backup D7000 all over the world including in very extreme conditions (from scorching deserts to crazy tropical rains to deep freeze the arctic region) -- with zero problems.  Same with the D200 from years ago (and now that I think about it, the F4 back in film days).

I'm upgrading to a D800E and expect zero problems as usual.

Feb 23 13 01:58 am  Link  Quote 
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Marty McBride
Posts: 3,132
Owensboro, Kentucky, US


R Michael Walker wrote:

4500 shots on my D800 without any issues. And I am NOT naturally a lucky guy so I doubt I go the only perfect one. And before you say anything,I'm more picky than most anyone and WOULD notice quality problems in smomething i paid over $6k for with only 2 lenses. I don't have that sort of disposable income. The D300 had over 50K clicks when I sold it and no problems there either. Never owned a D700. Not enough advantages over the D300s to make it worth my $$. Not that it wasn't the perfect Nikon for others. Just not me. The D800 IS my ideal camera at this time. The 600..not so much but MAYBE as a second body if I can't justify a D800E for a supporting role.

Just curious...if you were so fond of your D300s, why wouldn't you consider the D7100 as a backup? Being 24mp and the low pass filter removed, it may be an awesome backup for your D800.

Feb 23 13 07:05 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
London Fog
Posts: 6,226
London, England, United Kingdom


Why is everyone creating such a dust storm about all of this!








...haha!
Feb 23 13 07:06 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Chuckarelei wrote:
I wonder why they won't say what causes the problem?

From what I'm reading it relates to slightly over-tight manufacturing tolerances resulting in the scratching of black finish into the sensor. Evidently a sensor cleaning after a couple hundred images solves the problem.

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g461/TyPortfolio/scratch1_zps7ebd2204.jpg

Feb 23 13 07:59 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


The Space Cowboy wrote:
This doesn't apply to D800s?

To my knowledge it's only an issue with the D600.

Feb 23 13 08:01 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Anthony Photo
Posts: 199
Pottstown, Pennsylvania, US


I had multitudes of issues with "dust" in photos straight out of the box on my D7000.  The auto sensor cleaner took care of some of the dust, but as it turns out, the "dust" spots were oil spots on the sensor.  It took about 3 good cleanings to get it all off.  I took my new camera to the Grand Canyon, changed lenses very carefully, and it turns out that the high speeds of the shutter I was using was throwing oil from the shutter (2000-8000) onto the sensor. 

I read nothing from Nikon about this and only intermittently suggested from any of the threads on this.  It seems to be a problem for people who use the higher speeds and frame rates. 

Clean or have cleaned the sensor and I have no doubt that it can be duplicated with time or very quickly.  One suggestion is to learn how to properly and safely clean your sensor or have it serviced more often.
Feb 23 13 08:04 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
PS201
Posts: 188
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom


Mark Stout Photography wrote:
Nikon has a known issue with not sealing the camera bodies very well, and this is true on some of the higher end cameras too such as the D700 and the D300.  I've been told the D800 is better, but I tend to doubt that.  It would be nice if they would tend to this detail!  On $3000 and up cameras, it is not too much to ask.

Not my experience shooting Nikon for long, long time.

The D600 problem is oil on the sensor, not dust.

Feb 23 13 11:32 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
fullmetalphotographer
Posts: 2,536
Fresno, California, US


Reading in between the lines it reads less like a sealing issue more like a part was not installed right, or was contaminated with some substance. It does not come across as a design flaw but as as an issue during a manufacture run and they are not sure which run and/or what is the part issue.
Feb 24 13 01:51 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


PS201 wrote:
The D600 problem is oil on the sensor, not dust.

I have heard of BOTH issues...dust (from scratches in the mirror box finish) and oil (seemingly from using the ultra-highest shutter speeds).

If I shot Nikon, I'd still go with the D600 which is quickly dropping into the $16xx range...and just clean the sensor often. Most wildlife I shoot is at

Feb 24 13 06:15 am  Link  Quote 
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PS201
Posts: 188
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom


ArtisticGlamour wrote:
I have heard of BOTH issues...dust (from scratches in the mirror box finish) and oil (seemingly from using the ultra-highest shutter speeds).

If I shot Nikon, I'd still go with the D600 which is quickly dropping into the $16xx range...and just clean the sensor often. Most wildlife I shoot is at
Feb 24 13 09:43 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Brian Hillburn
Posts: 2,436
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


The Space Cowboy wrote:
This doesn't apply to D800s?

I have had the D800e a couple months now. No dust problem at all. Haven't read about it at all online either...

Feb 24 13 09:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
The Signature Image
Posts: 12,055
Gorham, Maine, US


Tip and suggestion: I put all my cameras in plastic bags while in the camera bag. That's where the dust, in part, comes from -- your camera bag.

Haven't had a dust problem in years.
Feb 24 13 09:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jhono Bashian
Posts: 2,427
Cleveland, Ohio, US


ArtisticGlamour wrote:
From what I'm reading it relates to slightly over-tight manufacturing tolerances resulting in the scratching of black finish into the sensor. Evidently a sensor cleaning after a couple hundred images solves the problem.

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g461/TyPortfolio/scratch1_zps7ebd2204.jpg

Does the D600 have a menu item to clean the sensor every time the the camera is turned on and shut off?  This might take care of most of the problem..

Feb 24 13 09:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Jhono Bashian wrote:
Does the D600 have a menu item to clean the sensor every time the the camera is turned on and shut off?  This might take care of most of the problem..

I'm not sure, but I think they have a "self-cleaning" menu choice. I shoot SONY! wink LOL!

But, I've been watching the D600 and D800 stuff pretty closely because of the SONY sensors. And the price falling on the D600 is very tempting if I had Nikon glass!

Feb 26 13 06:40 am  Link  Quote 
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