This may be a stupid question, but I wanna ask it anyway.
How do you feel about doing nude and having you "nude body" on the internet, that everybody can see?
I mean: when I started modelling, I was pro-nude. Now I'm not against, cause I love a lot of models that do nude, but I don't feel I can do it.
It makes me perplexed that everybody can see me nude anytime...don't know why.
Can you tell me what do you think about it? I just wanna open my mind and..change it if I'm only a paranoic
you can take some precautions like using a stage name and having your mayhem account set to "private" but it's certainly within the realm of possibility for anyone (mom, boyfriend, boss, clergy) to find anything that's on the internet.
consider hiring a boudoir photographer who will promise to keep the images private if you want to try it out before committing.
or you can do what are called covered/implied nudes, not full nudes. but you need a photographer you can trust not to show the inevitable nipple slips (or ask them to airbrush out the nipple which i've done many times).
if you want to do it then you just have to go for it and hope for the best. you make your choices in life and get to deal with any consequences. but what's the fun of playing it totally safe?
around here if you want to work with kids i think nudes are a really, really bad idea. apparently kids aren't supposed to know that adults like to get naked.
If you're uncomfortable it will definitely show in the pictures. You don't ever ever ever have to do anything you do not want to, and don't let anyone pressure you to. Only you can decide for yourself. Some models pose nude and others do not. I am very comfortable nude, in fact I think I scare some more commercial clients or more fashion oriented clients with how comfortable I am but I like doing artistic nude work and don't have any qualms about who sees my body and who doesn't. I realize that other models may not be and that is perfectly ok. :-) (I'll let you in on a little secret, a lot of models do it because either it's a gig that actually pays, they make more money that way, or they don't quite have the stats for fashion [22 yrs or younger, 5'9+, 120 lbs or less])
there are no stupid questions, except maybe those that don't get asked. my vote? don't do it if you're not comfortable - paranoid or not. you can always change your mind later. I find it generally easier to go from "no" to "yes" than the other way. I find that to be true nearly always.
plus discomfort often starts a negative spiral. you're not comfortable. you do it anyway. it goes badly. now you're really not comfortable. whereas, something you want to do, going badly, just motivates for next time.
You may think differently about that in 20 or 30 years and wish you had some when you were younger. So go hire a boudoir photographer and explore the idea (not as a model but as a customer with private images) You will have a better idea about it and something to look back on.
As for posing as a model nude, well it sounds like its not your thing if it's sparking this kind of thread. Don't do it unless you are sure, it's unlikely to produce good images if you are uncertain.
I think that it's terribly sad that anyone has to second guess what he or she does because of the opinions of others, which I suspect is at least part of the OP's problem. If I'm reading her question correctly, it's not that she's uncomfortable with shooting nudes, but rather that she's uncomfortable with the attitudes that other people in the vast world of the internet might have of her because she shoots nudes.
I had to get into my 70's before I could even attempt it and I'm on the other side of the camera, retired and beholden to no one except my immediate family. Frankly I envy the young women I shoot who have the courage to say, "This is me. Take me as I am or leave me be,"
Personally, I think that every young woman should have at least one nude shoot in her lifetime, even if no one but her and the photographer ever sees the pictures. Then, when she gets to be my age she can pull out the pictures and say to herself, "Damn! I was hot shit!" There are very few moments in life that are sweeter.
I only work with people who are nude, so I like nude models. If someone is concerned about having their identity connected with the nude images I have them wear a mask or I shoot so that the images are anonymous.
It's interesting that you started out okay with it and have become more reticent, that seems to be a less common pattern.
Ivana wrote: This may be a stupid question, but I wanna ask it anyway.
How do you feel about doing nude and having you "nude body" on the internet, that everybody can see?
I mean: when I started modelling, I was pro-nude. Now I'm not against, cause I love a lot of models that do nude, but I don't feel I can do it.
It makes me perplexed that everybody can see me nude anytime...don't know why.
Can you tell me what do you think about it? I just wanna open my mind and..change it if I'm only a paranoic
I don't think it is necessary to have to shoot nude.
However, if a model has no lingerie, implied shots, or even a dress with bare arms and bare legs, it's virtually impossible to book them. I can't book someone on the offchance they might be comfortable or not with stylists and make-up artists and skimpy fashion.
I'm in the same predicament as the OP with feeling a bit weirded out at the fact that everyone could see me nude if they wanted to, since many of my friends include my High School teachers and online gaming friends, not just the convention friends who I've attended naked parties with!
However, I keep hearing that you'll make more money if you do nude.
My question is, do implied nudes or strategically censored nudes (example: http://www.thisiskato.com/gallery/48/0/1009) make less money than... well "exposed" nudes? What about topless shots with the bottom half covered by a bikini bottom or cropped out?
These would both be things I'd be a lot more comfortable with.
i do worry about my dad somehow finding photos, or my boss, but i'd honestly think they'd be more embarrassed about it than i could ever be. it is weird to know your naked body is out there, but i think, at least in my case, the chances of them finding anything is pretty slim. i don't really stress about it but it's not for everyone.
Amanda Ashley Harris wrote: If you're uncomfortable it will definitely show in the pictures. You don't ever ever ever have to do anything you do not want to, and don't let anyone pressure you to. Only you can decide for yourself. Some models pose nude and others do not. I am very comfortable nude, in fact I think I scare some more commercial clients or more fashion oriented clients with how comfortable I am but I like doing artistic nude work and don't have any qualms about who sees my body and who doesn't. I realize that other models may not be and that is perfectly ok. :-) (I'll let you in on a little secret, a lot of models do it because either it's a gig that actually pays, they make more money that way, or they don't quite have the stats for fashion [22 yrs or younger, 5'9+, 120 lbs or less])
All the models that I have photographed nude have been very comfortable. They were great to work with.
Ivana wrote: This may be a stupid question, but I wanna ask it anyway.
How do you feel about doing nude and having you "nude body" on the internet, that everybody can see?
I mean: when I started modelling, I was pro-nude. Now I'm not against, cause I love a lot of models that do nude, but I don't feel I can do it.
It makes me perplexed that everybody can see me nude anytime...don't know why.
Can you tell me what do you think about it? I just wanna open my mind and..change it if I'm only a paranoic
It doesn't bother me. Someone seeing me naked in one of my images on the internet is not the same as them seeing me naked in real life.
Anyone in my family, or anyone I work with could find my images online, confront me, and I wouldn't be ashamed of a single one of them. I don't use my entire real name, so whoever was to find the images would have to be looking, and I suspect they would be the ones embarrassed.
Look any decent nude photographer will not post your nudes on the Internet if you only ask them. I shoot many nudes of women that I will never post on my tumblr or my website and especially MM because they wish to not have their work on the WWW.
I do use their work in my publications and gallery shows and I up front with them on this.
However, if a photographer pays you the going rates than all bets are off . This is one of the reasons I shoot TF. If its a collaboration than both parties should have a say on where the images go.
Willow Reed wrote: I'm in the same predicament as the OP with feeling a bit weirded out at the fact that everyone could see me nude if they wanted to, since many of my friends include my High School teachers and online gaming friends, not just the convention friends who I've attended naked parties with!
However, I keep hearing that you'll make more money if you do nude.
My question is, do implied nudes or strategically censored nudes (example: http://www.thisiskato.com/gallery/48/0/1009) make less money than... well "exposed" nudes? What about topless shots with the bottom half covered by a bikini bottom or cropped out?
These would both be things I'd be a lot more comfortable with.
If your nude your nude... Implieds are nudes.... Topless are nudes.
Why quibble are you afraid of your naughty bits getting out there. Look it is all about being comfortable a good photographer will make you feel comfortable and with a little effort you will get over your nerves and have a great time!
Ivana, the decision about posing nude has to be 100% yours based upon your feelings. Your feelings aren't right or wrong...so do what is best for you. Don't let anyone push or encourage you into it as you will have to be the one that lives with the results.
When I started modeling I never thought I would pose nude. But I found out doing the sexy themed shoots were my favorite and there were some wardrobe malfunctions. My wonderful hubby liked those shots best and he said he was fine with me posing nude as long as he is the only one that touches. Now nude shoots are some of my favorites.
I have taken pre-cautions to minimize the chance that co-workers or anyone that I prefer not to see my nude shots will see them.
I have 2 portfolios here on MM. One with my main work and it contains no nudes. Then I have this Fine Wine portfolio. I have a privacy setting on this portfolio that only MM members can see it.
My realname is not associated with this portfolio in anyway. I even have a separate e-mail account with false information that is no way tied to my name. If you Google my name, my main MM portfolio comes up but this one doesn't.
Of course it is always possible that someone I don't want to see my pictures may see them, but the chances are minimal.
I don't feel weird to know there are nude images of me and people are looking at them. It motivates me to stay in shape and it keeps me feeling younger than my years. So posing nude has brought some joy to my life.
Just give it some thought and do what is best for you.
Anna Adrielle
Posts: 17,225
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium
although I am aware that once an image is posted online, technically everyone could see it no matter how protective you are, that's the trick for me: being protective of my nude work. That means I don't use my own name, I have high privacy settings on any website I post it on, I only work with photographers who I know won't post anything unflattering (if I ask them too... and yes, I think that is SUCH a luxury), and I only do nudes that I'm proud of
(all of this also implies that I only shoot nudes TF though)
Risen Phoenix Photo wrote: If your nude your nude... Implieds are nudes.... Topless are nudes.
Why quibble are you afraid of your naughty bits getting out there. Look it is all about being comfortable a good photographer will make you feel comfortable and with a little effort you will get over your nerves and have a great time!
Try it you may find it Liberating !
It's not about being comfortable with the photographer, it's about being comfortable around people who I've known for years.
I want to be able to show them my work, and be able to comfortably discuss it. What I don't want is to have to hide it from them because of the nature of it, and worse, risk them thinking I'm doing something controversial or illegal to make money.
Additionally, I don't want it to indicate to anyone that having pictures with my vag on full display means I'm DTF.
Imagine going to a high school alumni event:
"What are you doing these days?"
"Modeling."
"Oh that's cool, I'd like to see some of your work."
Option A:
"Oh, sorry, it's private"
And they assume I'm doing something raunchy.
Option B:
"Alright here's my port"
"Whoa! I didn't really want to see you like that."
And talking to them from then on out is incredibly awkward because they have now seen my ladyparts. Also, see option A.
While there's a difference between artistic nudes and erotic nudes, it still boils down to the fact that you're putting "hidden" parts of your body on display.
It's not about being comfortable with the photographer, it's about being comfortable around people who I've known for years.
I want to be able to show them my work, and be able to comfortably discuss it. What I don't want is to have to hide it from them because of the nature of it, and worse, risk them thinking I'm doing something controversial or illegal to make money.
Additionally, I don't want it to indicate to anyone that having pictures with my vag on full display means I'm DTF.
Imagine going to a high school alumni event:
"What are you doing these days?"
"Modeling."
"Oh that's cool, I'd like to see some of your work."
Option A:
"Oh, sorry, it's private"
And they assume I'm doing something raunchy.
Option B:
"Alright here's my port"
"Whoa! I didn't really want to see you like that."
And talking to them from then on out is incredibly awkward because they have now seen my ladyparts. Also, see option A.
While there's a difference between artistic nudes and erotic nudes, it still boils down to the fact that you're putting "hidden" parts of your body on display.
I've seen them. Photographed them. The models were comfortable posing nude. You are not.
Willow Reed wrote: Do you assume that by referring to myself, I'm referring to everyone?
If you think that people will think this of you then that's a reflection of how you feel about the subject in general.
Sure, there may be people who think like that, but caving in and modifying YOUR behaviour to accommodate their way of thinking is really no better than thinking it yourself.
If you or the OP want to model nude then do it. The idiots who might think it means something it doesn't need to be educated. And in the meantime they can go fuck themselves!
Christoff Smit
Posts: 198
Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa
I know exactly what you mean by this, i also just can't see myself posing nude. I am not uncomfortable nude or anything, but in the privacy of my own home, in front of my own GF etc, not on the internet for anyone to see.
Also, i am running my own business, so don't know how it will impact my work if clients had to see nude shots of me on the net.
An extreme close-up of your face is something that you would not share in person with anyone you didn't know. So, on the internet, would that be different?
Anna Adrielle
Posts: 17,225
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium
Philip R wrote: An extreme close-up of your face is something that you would not share in person with anyone you didn't know. So, on the internet, would that be different?
really? you want to equate a face to breasts, buttocks or intimate parts?
-B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote: If you think that people will think this of you then that's a reflection of how you feel about the subject in general.
No, it's a reflection of experience. The pic in my avatar? The moment I was tagged in it on FB, three male friends who I don't regularly communicate with were suddenly buddy-buddy with me. One in particular tried to guilt me into sleeping with him for his birthday.
While I can brush that sort of thing off, the amount of damage control I might have to do if I was doing (specifically) erotic nude is something I don't want to have to deal with. Artistic nude wouldn't be quite as bad, but might still warrant the occasional lousy perv crawling out of hiding.
Willow Reed wrote: No, it's a reflection of experience. The pic in my avatar? The moment I was tagged in it on FB, three male friends who I don't regularly communicate with were suddenly buddy-buddy with me. One in particular tried to guilt me into sleeping with him for his birthday.
While I can brush that sort of thing off, the amount of damage control I might have to do if I was doing (specifically) erotic nude is something I don't want to have to deal with. Artistic nude wouldn't be quite as bad, but might still warrant the occasional lousy perv crawling out of hiding.
Willow Reed wrote: No, it's a reflection of experience. The pic in my avatar? The moment I was tagged in it on FB, three male friends who I don't regularly communicate with were suddenly buddy-buddy with me. One in particular tried to guilt me into sleeping with him for his birthday.
While I can brush that sort of thing off, the amount of damage control I might have to do if I was doing (specifically) erotic nude is something I don't want to have to deal with. Artistic nude wouldn't be quite as bad, but might still warrant the occasional lousy perv crawling out of hiding.
Who cares? Why would you even respond to such messages? That's what the delete key is for. Those people are clearly not your friends, they shouldn't affect the way you feel about yourself, and they certainly shouldn't influence the choices you make. Someone can only "guilt" you if *you* let them.
...And why the heck would you allow yourself to be tagged in photos without approving them first? Or working with the type of folks that would post such images on Facebook (of all places) without asking you?
It's not about being comfortable with the photographer, it's about being comfortable around people who I've known for years.
I want to be able to show them my work, and be able to comfortably discuss it. What I don't want is to have to hide it from them because of the nature of it, and worse, risk them thinking I'm doing something controversial or illegal to make money.
Additionally, I don't want it to indicate to anyone that having pictures with my vag on full display means I'm DTF.
Imagine going to a high school alumni event:
"What are you doing these days?"
"Modeling."
"Oh that's cool, I'd like to see some of your work."
Option A:
"Oh, sorry, it's private"
And they assume I'm doing something raunchy.
Option B:
"Alright here's my port"
"Whoa! I didn't really want to see you like that."
And talking to them from then on out is incredibly awkward because they have now seen my ladyparts. Also, see option A.
While there's a difference between artistic nudes and erotic nudes, it still boils down to the fact that you're putting "hidden" parts of your body on display.
It would be difficult to describe how much your post has brightened my morning, but I'll try. I love the utter lack of discretion and privacy coupled with an inability to steer a conversation. I keep imagining different situations like when you take your car to the mechanic and read a question on the check-in questionaire asking about your employment and you start thinking: (oh my, I was hoping it wouldn't come to this. Now I shall have to show them my nude modelling pics)
I don't want to discourage your pursuit of total forthrightness but I'm wondering if you realize that there are models who do nudes and manage not to announce this fact at their high school alumni or other social events that have nothing to do with nude modelling. Many of them even manage to do this without giving the impression that they've joined a religious cult or are running drugs for a syndicate.
In almost all cases I shoot nudes but, as with any rule there are exceptions and after reading the dialogue you've described above I just want to follow you around with a video camera recording your fascinating encounters. I can't recommend nude modelling for you given your propensities but if you ever do take it up feel free to contact me I think we might be able to make an interesting short film (and it would be clothed).
Ivana wrote: This may be a stupid question, but I wanna ask it anyway.
How do you feel about doing nude and having you "nude body" on the internet, that everybody can see?
I mean: when I started modelling, I was pro-nude. Now I'm not against, cause I love a lot of models that do nude, but I don't feel I can do it.
It makes me perplexed that everybody can see me nude anytime...don't know why.
Can you tell me what do you think about it? I just wanna open my mind and..change it if I'm only a paranoic
What can someone possibly learn about you, by seeing your nude body?
my thought is nothing...they learn nothing...
your shaving habits?...maybe you got a scar?
wooo that's says a lot...they don't get a clue about your character..
So the answer is, your nude body doesn't tell anyone, anything more then they would know, if they met you fully clothed...
the stigma about nude modeling in our society, is ridiculous in my view..
NC Art Photos
Posts: 524
Raleigh, North Carolina, US
Ivana wrote: This may be a stupid question, but I wanna ask it anyway.
How do you feel about doing nude and having you "nude body" on the internet, that everybody can see?
I mean: when I started modelling, I was pro-nude. Now I'm not against, cause I love a lot of models that do nude, but I don't feel I can do it.
It makes me perplexed that everybody can see me nude anytime...don't know why.
Can you tell me what do you think about it? I just wanna open my mind and..change it if I'm only a paranoic
if it worries you that much - don't do it. But what makes you think that everyone will recognize your nude photos anyway?
If you want to do nudes but not be recognized, do anonymous nudes. Or pose under a name different than your own (an alias or stage name).
You can always pose nude for someone who won't post to the internet. Many photographers who shoot film only make prints they hang in exhibition or for sale under strict conditions that include no internet publication.
It doesn't bother me. Someone seeing me naked in one of my images on the internet is not the same as them seeing me naked in real life.
Anyone in my family, or anyone I work with could find my images online, confront me, and I wouldn't be ashamed of a single one of them. I don't use my entire real name, so whoever was to find the images would have to be looking, and I suspect they would be the ones embarrassed.
Ivana wrote: This may be a stupid question, but I wanna ask it anyway.
How do you feel about doing nude and having you "nude body" on the internet, that everybody can see?
I mean: when I started modelling, I was pro-nude. Now I'm not against, cause I love a lot of models that do nude, but I don't feel I can do it.
It makes me perplexed that everybody can see me nude anytime...don't know why.
Can you tell me what do you think about it? I just wanna open my mind and..change it if I'm only a paranoic
I feel the same way. Right now modeling is more of a hobby for me and I don't want it to affect my career. With employers scouting facebook profiles these days prior to hiring, I'm afraid of a potential employer running across nude photos and I keep those parts private out of respect for my husband. One nude photos are on the internet, they are out there forever.
If you don't want world wide exposure to your nudity, that is your right, so just don't do it. Ask the photographer what his intentions are. Also, in my country I need to have the model sign a model release in order for me to use the photographs. All she has to do is add the words, "not for internet usage or internet publication" and she's safe. (small problem is if the photographer disregards those words all she can do is sue him but the pictures, once out there, could be out there forever.)
When I solicit a model I usually tell them that the work is not for the web or being sold for content. My personal shooting is done for art gallery exhibits.
also regarding signing documents (or verbal agreements) they don't necessarily prevent anyone from doing something wrong they just give you leverage if you have to sue them after they do something bad.
and even if your nudes remain safe from prying eyes what happens if you suddenly get famous? seems like the photographers then rush to sell those photos because it's just too much money to ignore.
i enjoy shooting nudes but i also hope that my model's don't get harmed in the process. it should be a world where you can freely do stuff that's legal but it isn't.
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