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Amanda Le Tea
Posts: 2
Diamond Bar, California, US


So I'm in the process of believing that I'm being scammed, keep in mind I have NOT deposited the check.  There was a girl/model (Jessica Bradburn) that messages me on MM and told me that she wanted to collaborate with me on a shoot and that there is a shoot coming up.  She gave me the email address and told me to message them.  So I did, and with that came Gary Phillips the recruiting agent for Ostrich Magazine.  This magazine I tried finding information on, but couldn't.  Later I find out that it's because according to Gary the magazine is an up and coming mag which won't be out in a few months.  They told me that I would be paid $1200 for 3 hr shoot and that my flight to Tampa, FL and hotel accommodations would all be paid for by the company as well as my llama herder.  They sent me a check of a little over $2500 and told me to deposit it into my bank and withdraw the amount the next morning in order to purchase my plane tickets and the rest I would have to Money Gram transfer to the MUA/Wardrobe agent. I looked up the address of the MUA/Wardrobe agent that they gave me, the address doesn't exist.  I also looked up the company that issued the check and it's a health insurance company in PA which they now claim is their sponsor for this shoot.  After all this I decided to message Jessica to see if she has actually worked with them before, I come to find she deleted her MM account only after creating it for a few days.  This is all too fishy!  What do you think?

Thanks

Amanda
Mar 07 13 12:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SME
Posts: 20,833
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US


Moderator Note!
That is a scam.  Throw the check away.

Please go to your My Stuff page and click the graphic that says "Avoid scams!" to learn how to recognize and avoid scammers when they contact you. 

The next time you receive a scam message on MM, please scroll to the bottom of the PM and click the link that says "Flag this PM/sender," and click the check box to share the contents with the moderators.

Thank you!
Mar 07 13 12:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Kristyn Emily
Posts: 28
Boulogne-Billancourt, Île-de-France, France


It seems very obvious. Walk away.  smile
Mar 07 13 12:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Fotographia Fantastique
Posts: 17,323
Lebanon, New Hampshire, US


Sounds like a scam.

Check out this thread stickied at the top of this forum:

'NEW MODELS; Learn about scams'
http://www.ripoffreport.com
Mar 07 13 12:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ForeverFotos
Posts: 6,620
Indianapolis, Indiana, US


Definitely a scam.......: here's the explanation of how it works:

http://www.newmodels.com/Nigeria.html
Mar 07 13 12:13 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Amanda Le Tea
Posts: 2
Diamond Bar, California, US


Thanks for all the quick replies! Ripping the check up as we speak! smile
Mar 07 13 12:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Paolo Diavolo
Posts: 8,154
Pleasant Hill, California, US


im glad you didnt get taken for your money!

Amanda Le Tea wrote:
After all this I decided to message Jessica to see if she has actually worked with them before, I come to find she deleted her MM account only after creating it for a few days.

i don't think she was the one that deleted her account haha.

Mar 07 13 12:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Marin Photography NYC
Posts: 6,605
New York, New York, US


They always go after newbies....good that you didn't cash that check!...or send money!...
Mar 07 13 12:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SG-4 Photography
Posts: 119
Washington, District of Columbia, US


WOW!!!  You were right to be suspicious.  I have seen this scam in soooooo many places.  You deposit the check.  It clears.  You withdraw the money.  give most of it to person x for reason y via moneygram/westernUnioin and keep a little for your troubles.  And 3 days later your bank tells you that the check was fraudulent and in fact did not clear when it was presented for reckoning.  And of course they now want their money back.   

Sigh.....

Gawd damned foreigners preying on good old fashioned American capitalism.....

Good for you for not succumbing....

-SG-4
Mar 07 13 12:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
David Nelson Photograph
Posts: 343
Eau Claire, Wisconsin, US


Amanda Le Tea wrote:
So I'm in the process of believing that I'm being scammed, keep in mind I have NOT deposited the check.  There was a girl/model (Jessica Bradburn) that messages me on MM and told me that she wanted to collaborate with me on a shoot and that there is a shoot coming up.  She gave me the email address and told me to message them.  So I did, and with that came Gary Phillips the recruiting agent for Ostrich Magazine.  This magazine I tried finding information on, but couldn't.  Later I find out that it's because according to Gary the magazine is an up and coming mag which won't be out in a few months.  They told me that I would be paid $1200 for 3 hr shoot and that my flight to Tampa, FL and hotel accommodations would all be paid for by the company as well as my escort.  They sent me a check of a little over $2500 and told me to deposit it into my bank and withdraw the amount the next morning in order to purchase my plane tickets and the rest I would have to Money Gram transfer to the MUA/Wardrobe agent. I looked up the address of the MUA/Wardrobe agent that they gave me, the address doesn't exist.  I also looked up the company that issued the check and it's a health insurance company in PA which they now claim is their sponsor for this shoot.  After all this I decided to message Jessica to see if she has actually worked with them before, I come to find she deleted her MM account only after creating it for a few days.  This is all too fishy!  What do you think?

Thanks

Amanda

Here is what happens, you deposit the check, the next morning you buy the air plane tickets (charging them to your credit card), you send the rest of the money to the MUA.  After the money is gone you're bank tells you the check is no good.  So, you're out the money you paid for your tickets, although you may be able to cancel them and the rest of the money you sent to the MUA comes from your checking account.
It's a pretty common scam.

Mar 07 13 12:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Cal
Posts: 650
Santa Ana, California, US


Amanda Le Tea wrote:
Thanks for all the quick replies! Ripping the check up as we speak! smile

Give it to the FBI with the information you have, let them go after the culprits.

Mar 07 13 12:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ontherocks
Posts: 22,180
Salem, Oregon, US


one of my models also had a check and asked me about it.

models don't fall for this stuff! you know better. don't let your starry-eyed dreams get the better of you. if it's too good to be true it is. basically if someone is wanting to throw money at a newbie that person is guilty until proven innocent.
Mar 07 13 12:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Michael DBA Expressions
Posts: 3,120
Lynchburg, Virginia, US


The Commonsense Test: would YOU trust someone you have never met in person, with $2500 of your money? Me either.
Mar 07 13 12:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
xDashMM
Posts: 1
Murfreesboro, Tennessee, US


This is currently happening to me also. It doesn't feel right so I haven't replied, this individual is using the same name- Gary Phillips- with the same magazine Ostrich Magazine, it's all too good to be true.

I'm reporting them as spam.
Mar 14 13 07:02 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ed Woodson Photography
Posts: 2,644
Savannah, Georgia, US


Yes, as the Mod said, it is a scam.

As a photographer who has introduced a couple of new models, or so, to Model Mayhem, I try to make them aware of what they can expect in the first few weeks of being on this site.  Up to the point of telling them that if they recieve offers they are unsure of, to call me.

No, I'm not playing White Knight in Shining Armour, but I do take an interest in those who have invested their time with me and I think it would be helpful if more Photographers did the same with new models.


My $ .02
Mar 14 13 07:12 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Angie Scott
Posts: 18
Los Angeles, California, US


So no company ever pays girls up front ever??? What if this really was a real offer--how would she know? I had something similar happen to me with someone else but I called the bank to verify that they check was real. In my case the check wasn't. Before doing anything, I would call the bank. If the check had been real I would have gone through with it. Is that dangerous of me???? Also, why would someone make a check from an account that doesn't exist? Why not get an ACTUAL account number and make the check from that? It seems the people pulling these scams aren't very smart. But heck, what do I know....lol
Apr 20 13 02:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Flex Photography
Posts: 5,081
Sudbury, Ontario, Canada


Angie Scott wrote:
So no company ever pays girls up front ever??? What if this really was a real offer--how would she know? I had something similar happen to me with someone else but I called the bank to verify that they check was real. In my case the check wasn't. Before doing anything, I would call the bank. If the check had been real I would have gone through with it. Is that dangerous of me???? Also, why would someone make a check from an account that doesn't exist? Why not get an ACTUAL account number and make the check from that? It seems the people pulling these scams aren't very smart. But heck, what do I know....lol

Its the ages-old Nigerian scam! They pressure you to send out your check as soon as theirs is deposited, as it takes time for their check to clear. (or not clear) By the time the bank has determined that, the scammers already have your money!

It is good that you all have not cashed the checks. However, it is unfortunate that you replied, giving them your email address. It is unfortunate that you gave them your address. (and any other private info) Now that they have those, (as well as everyone else they passed them on to) expect to get tons more scams, through email and mail! Do not reply to them! Don't trust any unsolicited outside emails!

When you get offers use logic! Why would a company offer up-front money? Would you? Why would they hire an unkown, inexperienced, untried model out of the blue? Not even at normal rates, let alone grossly high rates! Why would they trust payment of a MUA, etc. to you? These people depend on the inexperienced, as well as greed!

They did not remove their own account...They were found out & removed by Mayhem! They know from the start that they will be caught, & that is why they rush you to immediately switch to your email! Pressure to immediately get your email at the very start is a red flag. Use MM messages for a while before selectively giving out email, etc.

Read the anti scam thread at the top of the Newbie forum! (NEW MODELS; Learn about scams) If you would all do that, like you should have from the start, we would have way less of these posts.

Apr 20 13 06:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
JstMe
Posts: 1
Honolulu, Hawaii, US


Post hidden on Apr 22, 2013 06:40 am
Reason: outing
Comments:
The real person behind that name may not appreciate being called a scammer.
smile
Please keep in mind that scammers don't use their real names, but they do often use names that belong to real people.
Apr 20 13 07:30 pm  Link 
Photographer
Flex Photography
Posts: 5,081
Sudbury, Ontario, Canada


JstMe wrote:
Thanks Amanda, I just got that exact same email today.. Got invited by another model C**** S****. Almost believed it too. Thank god I always do my research first.

JstMe and Amanda, it's against Mayhem's rules to name the member here! That is known as outing and is a big no-no here. Edit your post right away, to remove the member's name, before you get brigged!

Apr 21 13 07:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
D Brown
Posts: 1
Norfolk, Virginia, US


I am so glad I decided to google Gary Phillips and Ostrich Magazine before getting really excited about what I was reading, because your question popped up asking if this was a scam. Everything you just wrote is exactly what I just read in my email and I am going to go flag the girl who messaged me too and read about scams.
Apr 22 13 05:43 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dean Johnson Photo
Posts: 55,895
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Spezial2me wrote:
I am so glad I decided to google Gary Phillips and Ostrich Magazine before getting really excited about what I was reading, because your question popped up asking if this was a scam. Everything you just wrote is exactly what I just read in my email and I am going to go flag the girl who messaged me too and read about scams.

Please go to your mystuff page and find this graphic and click on it;
http://mms.ibsrv.net/images/info/AvoidScams.jpg

Then watch the video and read the article.

Please do some reading. The best way to avoid being scammed is to learn how to recognize them.
That information has been there for a long  time, and if you had taken a few minutes to read it you would have almost immediately recognized this for the scam it is.

If you are contacted here on MM with such an offer, please report it to us via CAM (Contact A Mod), the link to contact us is found under the help tab.

Apr 22 13 06:40 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ArtisticPhotography
Posts: 7,699
Buffalo, New York, US


Sita Mae wrote:
That is a scam.  Throw the check away.

Please go to your My Stuff page and click the graphic that says "Avoid scams!" to learn how to recognize and avoid scammers when they contact you. 

The next time you receive a scam message on MM, please scroll to the bottom of the PM and click the link that says "Flag this PM/sender," and click the check box to share the contents with the moderators.

Thank you!

NO. NO. NO. Don't throw it away.

Take it to the police.

Apr 22 13 07:41 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Chuckarelei
Posts: 9,250
Seattle, Washington, US


ArtisticPhotography wrote:
NO. NO. NO. Don't throw it away.
Take it to the police.

What do you think the police will do?

Like they don't have enough and better things to do. They will just laugh at you behind your back for being so stupid to even thinking this is real and also being incredible dumb to even bringing it to the police.

Apr 22 13 09:20 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
David Nelson Photograph
Posts: 343
Eau Claire, Wisconsin, US


Amanda Le Tea wrote:
So I'm in the process of believing that I'm being scammed, keep in mind I have NOT deposited the check.  There was a girl/model (Jessica Bradburn) that messages me on MM and told me that she wanted to collaborate with me on a shoot and that there is a shoot coming up.  She gave me the email address and told me to message them.  So I did, and with that came Gary Phillips the recruiting agent for Ostrich Magazine.  This magazine I tried finding information on, but couldn't.  Later I find out that it's because according to Gary the magazine is an up and coming mag which won't be out in a few months.  They told me that I would be paid $1200 for 3 hr shoot and that my flight to Tampa, FL and hotel accommodations would all be paid for by the company as well as my escort.  They sent me a check of a little over $2500 and told me to deposit it into my bank and withdraw the amount the next morning in order to purchase my plane tickets and the rest I would have to Money Gram transfer to the MUA/Wardrobe agent. I looked up the address of the MUA/Wardrobe agent that they gave me, the address doesn't exist.  I also looked up the company that issued the check and it's a health insurance company in PA which they now claim is their sponsor for this shoot.  After all this I decided to message Jessica to see if she has actually worked with them before, I come to find she deleted her MM account only after creating it for a few days.  This is all too fishy!  What do you think?

Thanks

Amanda

Yes, this scam is sprung on people in a number of fields.  Here's how it works, they promise you great money and to prove they're  serious they send you a check for your services and to pay for your trip, the money you don't use for tickets you send to them by moneygram.  After you withdraw the money the next day, purchase plane tickets and send the rest to the MUA, your bank informs you that the check you deposited is no  good.  Best case scenario, you didn't take the first flight out and find nobody waiting for you at the airport and you can cancel your flight tickets and be out just the money you sent to the MUA.

Apr 22 13 09:33 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Alex Yrig
Posts: 35
Los Angeles, California, US


Yes, it is a scam. Report it to the authorities and they will handle the situation and hopefully catch the people responsible.
Apr 22 13 02:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Marisha Young
Posts: 1
College Park, Georgia, US


something in me said this was to good to be true so i googled everything and glad this came up
Apr 23 13 11:30 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Colin Rogers
Posts: 29
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Sounds too good to be true.
Apr 23 13 05:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Kathleen Robinson
Posts: 1
Saint Louis, Missouri, US


Wow!!!! Im glad I decided to Google this magazine, turns out it is too good to be true. Nothing in life is that easy. As bad as I wanted to believe this I had to look at the big picture, yes I want to be a paid model but I would like to work for it to gain the experience, so if something was to be given to me this easy I would have been reached my goals as a model but as I said before nothing in life is that easy you must work for what you want..... Dodged that bullet :-)

Im a rookie to Model Mayhem its sad that we have to be on the look out for these type of things on here and in person people today have no remorse, greed has taken over sadly!!!
Apr 29 13 09:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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