I was just wondering, if someone had a reaction to a body paint does that mean the person is highly likely to have a reaction to all brands or are different body paints made up of different ingredients so it really shouldn't be a concern?
What kind of makeup was it? (If it was makeup)
What sort of reaction was experienced, and how severe?
Anyone who is allergic to makeup should probably think very hard before covering themselves in cosmetics. Many brands use similar ingredients, but then there are also many variations.
Kelly Anne-Marie wrote: ^^ I think it was just a paint bought at your local Wal-mart or a place like that.^^
This is key.
Was it Makeup or Paint???
They have some really cheap face paint stuff available at Walmart that I've always wondered about it's ingredients.
But most times I hear about people getting "bodypaint" at Wal-Mart, or Michael's, or whatnot they are actually buying acrylic paint. Did the paint adhere to body hair longer than to the skin? Did you find yourself picking off little pieces once it dried?
Professionals will tell you again and again and again that "Non-Toxic" does not equal "Safe for Use on Skin"... we are often ignored.
If it was paint, and the reaction was quickly gone upon washing, you are lucky indeed.
I have always wondered about this myself as I would simply love to be body painted.
I hesitate to try it, even with an experienced person, because I am seriously allergic to latex and nearly every type of regular makeup so I doubt that body paint would be safe for me.
MatureModelMM wrote: I have always wondered about this myself as I would simply love to be body painted.
I hesitate to try it, even with an experienced person, because I am seriously allergic to latex and nearly every type of regular makeup so I doubt that body paint would be safe for me.
If you found someone patient who was willing to test each product used before hand, you could probably find something... but I agree with you...
If you are that sensitive to that many products, then covering yourself with more product is probably not a great idea.
They said they bought it in the "kids section" (which I found weird,I didn't think you would apply such a thing to kids.). They were in plastic little jars about the size of baby food jars. Thank-You for the link I will read it now.
I think it may have been acrylic. The only size "face paints" I have ever seen at Wal-Mart looked like the little paint pots that come with model kits or kids "paint by numbers". If it looked like these...
You were probably dealing with acrylic. Anyone of us who takes bodypainting seriously would never use such materials on a model, or anyone else for that matter.
Thank-you for all the information you provided! By the way, this stuff never did dry completely, so it was easy to remove, nor was there a Body Painter used. A Photographer just had some (what ever it was) in the studio that the photographer bought, I applied it and was able leave it on for awhile but then I started to think I should really go take it off because of the reaction seemed to be getting worse.
BodyPainter Rich wrote: I think it may have been acrylic. The only size "face paints" I have ever seen at Wal-Mart looked like the little paint pots that come with model kits or kids "paint by numbers". If it looked like these...
You were probably dealing with acrylic. Anyone of us who takes bodypainting seriously would never use such materials on a model, or anyone else for that matter.
If you start to have a hard time breathing, that is a clue that bad things are happening and you need to get out of/away from whatever is causing that reaction. Your life could be in jeopardy.
Thanks, I realize I should of told the photographer and should of not left it on for awhile (in hopes of getting some nice images), the Photographer isn't at fault.
I have had several models have the same experiance and it not be an allergic reaction. Lightheadedness, cold sweats and nausia can also be a result of low blood sugar, hydration, studio temperature and ventilation as well as general health and shoot anxiety. Bodypainting is deceptively hard on the model especially if they are locked into a static pose for long periods.
This is why it is important for the team to discuss breaks to allow the model to move aroundn and munch on healthy snacks and drink water. It is also why responsible painters ask about general health and known alergies as well as doing patch tests on someone who is new to bodypaint.
You do have to STOP when issues hit and be willing to call the shoot if thi gs dont improve after a break. Much prefferable than dealing with a model who does a dead faint. Trust me on that one....
When you say " it made me very warm" are you saying the sensation was jusst at the painted area or all over. I took it to mean warm all over. I've not had skin turn gray. I have had models go very pale or very flush when they get lightheaded.
I have seen skin reactions ranging from redness to water blisters and hives.
It would be wise to get the name of the products and colors used anx take them to your dermatologist.
I too think this might not have been actualy face/body paint cosmetic makeup. BUT it COULD have been. Best thing is future, is ask for a patch test the day or week before the shoot. I certainly will do patch tests for people with products I may use and insist if we are using anything unusual or known to be harsh.
But, if you can, why not just ask the person you were painted by what they used.
Similar kinds of makeup may cause similar senstivities in a given person. Some makeups are water/wax based, some are water glycerine based, Some are alcohol based, some are hyrbids, it all depends on you and your skin.
Just out of curiosity, was it metallic or just an opaque color?
When you said that it "never dried," it reminds me of a product we use sometimes in the studio from a company called "Steins" from back east. It comes in basic plastic bottles.
The two metallics in my portfolio were done with them. The reason I like to use them is that the material never dries, like Kryolan does. The attraction is that it looks wet throughout the shoot. I can also manipulate the texture as I change the lighting.
On the other hand, it does a good job of clogging the pores more. I always test it on the model's skin before covering her. Although it is designed as a body paint, I have seen a couple of models react to it, although not like you describe.
Are you sure it came from Walmart? Some costume shops sell Steins. I am wondering if that might be what it was.
Lisa Berczel wrote: I actually have a vintage tube of Stein's in a color called "Indian".....
A grease paint won't dry.
The liquid I use isn't really a grease paint. I know they make tubes of grease paint. It comes in liquid form in a bottle. I would classify it as a cross between a grease paint and a latex metallic. I am aware that grease paints don't dry. I suspect that this stuff has a high glycerin content or something similar. It isn't quite as messy as a traditional grease paint as well.
I have never really understood this stuff. I have a hard time finding it in the Bay. It works well when I am doing fine art. None the less, some of the girls have reacted to it.
Lisa Berczel wrote: I'm still not clear on what your exact reaction was.... was it localized to where the paint was applied? Or your entire body?
A pasty liquid bodypaint could be Palmers.... which is very thick, slow to dry, and stays shiny. It is also higher in glycerin which may be a problem.
Again, we're all just educated guessing based on our own education and experience.
I'd seriously talk to a dermatologist as well as insist on cosmetic products AND patch tests on any future bodypaint projects.
You should inform any MUA or Bodypainter of your experience - as well as letting them know of any other sensitivities you've experienced.
The only place I noticed slightly gray skin was under the paint but my whole body was very warm.
and this sounds like it would of been what it was "A pasty liquid bodypaint could be Palmers.... which is very thick, slow to dry, and stays shiny."
Thanks for the information.
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