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elementfoto
Posts: 402
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia


I’m trying to get my head around some styling related things from your point of view to help me with my own quoting, and getting stylists involved in shoots.

I just have 5 or 6 questions about how stylists operate. I think I have got a handle on many of the questions I used to have (questions about how to get items/clothes for tests and submissions), although if you had any other insights there, I’d appreciate those too.

But the last pieces of the puzzle are basically about how you guys charge – not specific dollar figures necessarily - just wondering what a quote from a stylist would look like?

I'm in Australia, but work often in the USA, and I'd be interested to hear from people in both markets. That said, input from anywhere is welcomed.  smile

So my questions are:

-    How do stylists generally charge? (Time sourcing items? Time on set? Items used? A flat rate? A combination?)

-    What would be some typical rates I might see from a stylist? (I don’t need your rates unless you feel comfortable telling me. ☺ )

-    If you need to buy something for a shoot, do you give it to the client at the end? Keep it for the future? Or return it if you can?

-    If you provide items of your own to a shoot, do you charge for them?

-    Are there any other factors that affect your rate?

-    When a job comes up, do you prefer to quote direct to the client/agency (as I would), or quote to me, and have me include you on my quote? Or does either work?

And I guess since I have you here, I do also have a couple of styling questions. smile :

-    Would any magazines that you know of run a submission featuring garments that are already in stores, or Vintage, or not available locally?

-    I was wondering if you could recommend a few publications that accept submissions, and preferably pay for them? (I’ve got a pretty good list going, but I haven’t gotten so far as figuring out what’s on offer at each one. )

I think that pretty much covers everything I was wondering. smile

Any answers would be much appreciated! Thanks heaps. smile

Ben
Mar 16 13 11:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mary
Posts: 6,872
Coronado, California, US


elementfoto wrote:
I’m trying to get my head around some styling related things from your point of view to help me with my own quoting, and getting stylists involved in shoots.

I just have 5 or 6 questions about how stylists operate. I think I have got a handle on many of the questions I used to have (questions about how to get items/clothes for tests and submissions), although if you had any other insights there, I’d appreciate those too.

But the last pieces of the puzzle are basically about how you guys charge – not specific dollar figures necessarily - just wondering what a quote from a stylist would look like?

I'm in Australia, but work often in the USA, and I'd be interested to hear from people in both markets. That said, input from anywhere is welcomed.  smile

So my questions are:

-    How do stylists generally charge? (Time sourcing items? Time on set? Items used? A flat rate? A combination?)

Me---------This is just me….keep in mind I am in Southern California and doing commercial work… rates will very depending on the area and type of work

Me----------I charge per day.... On set $800.00 a day up to 8 hours).... Shopping ($800.00 per day)....prep and returns I generally charge about $600.00 per day.

-    What would be some typical rates I might see from a stylist? (I don’t need your rates unless you feel comfortable telling me. ☺ ) 

Me---------In California from a pro you will see about $800.00 to $1200.00 a day on a commercial set... $500.00 to 800.00 a day for shopping and returns for commercial wardrobe.

-    If you need to buy something for a shoot, do you give it to the client at the end? Keep it for the future? Or return it if you can? 

Me---------   I send it to the client with the bill…they pay for it and they get to keep it.

-    If you provide items of your own to a shoot, do you charge for them?

Me-------- No, if I have something on hand I do not charge… Things like wedding rings and watches and some jewelry  I keep in my kit… No charge

-    Are there any other factors that affect your rate? 

Me------- Yes, Hours on set…over 8 will be over time…. I look at the type of wardrobe they want…uniforms, and high end stuff will cost more in time… I don’t give quotes until I know exactly what the client wants.  If they want all Gap clothing I might charge ½ day… If it’s High End designer wardrobe, uniforms, off season etc…I might charge 2 or 3 days of shopping

-    When a job comes up, do you prefer to quote direct to the client/agency (as I would), or quote to me, and have me include you on my quote? Or does either work?...

Me------It’s more efficient to chat with the client directly…It eliminates a lot of miscommunication issues.  I can’t stress this enough

And I guess since I have you here, I do also have a couple of styling questions. smile :

-    Would any magazines that you know of run a submission featuring garments that are already in stores, or Vintage, or not available locally?

Me-------Yes, local magazines will feature stuff already found in stores but it needs to be current for the season the issue will come out in 
-    I was wondering if you could recommend a few publications that accept submissions, and preferably pay for them? (I’ve got a pretty good list going, but I haven’t gotten so far as figuring out what’s on offer at each one. )  I don’t think most magazines will pay for submissions..they want more control…unless it’s a free magazine, in that case I have no clue.
I think that pretty much covers everything I was wondering. smile

Any answers would be much appreciated! Thanks heaps. smile

Ben

my answers are above... see Me------

Mar 17 13 01:38 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
ArtistryImage
Posts: 2,300
Washington, District of Columbia, US


elementfoto wrote:
I’m trying to get my head around some styling related things from your point of view to help me with my own quoting, and getting stylists involved in shoots.

... how stylists operate.

Ben, while styling isn't my forte in my market (Washington DC) the very first question I query a client for is  What is your budget for the aforementioned component of the session?

If they vacillate here it is not a good sign...  indecisive responses can typically be a red flag...

Second and more important issue I query for prior to quoting a job Do you have a Pull Letter from the editor of the publication the assignment is for?  If so that seriously effects the aggregate fee involved... Also I query to see if they are providing a CCard to cover professional cleaning costs for all garments used in the session's ensembles...

Please keep in mind that every market is different thus it is somewhat meaningless to provide hard numbers here...  the situation in my market is volatile, immediate local demand is more controlling than any other factor, this may or may not be true in major markets such as NYC, LA or Chicago... 

hope this helps...

Happy Saint Patrick's Day smile

Mar 17 13 07:42 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
elementfoto
Posts: 402
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia


Thanks guys. smile
Mar 18 13 10:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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