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Makeup Artist
smashingdivas
Posts: 25
Seattle, Washington, US


HI Fellow MUA's,
In Washington State, I know it's ok to work freelance without a license, no makeup certification is required. But in other states, what's the consensus? I'd like to work outside of Washington State as well, in bigger markets.

It was advised from a conversation I had with a lady I briefly met (she doesn't work in the industry), that I'd get certified as an esthetician to protect myself.

Has any client sued you for any reason? (I'm not sure if I can ask this question here, but I thought I'd ask).

I see her point, but at the same time, I'm working hard to make a living at this, with a very very small pocket book at the moment. Now I'm looking at other options to make a living while building makeup business too.

I'm adding up that certified esthetician and cosmetology school is $30,000 total. Along with $110K art degree i already have, taking more school is hard to swallow...just sayin. Looking at this from an ROI bottom line business standpoint, it will take a decade to just break even on ROI.

Thoughts?

Thanks for being open minded, I appreciate your honest feedback.
Mar 20 13 10:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
smashingdivas
Posts: 25
Seattle, Washington, US


I'm also known to be one of the most sanitary and gentle makeup artists out there. That's the consistent feedback I get. And I care about people's skin.

Thank you! smile -Krystal
Mar 20 13 10:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
besos mis amores
Posts: 154
Bakersfield, California, US


If you are good at what you do, then own it, and of ppl ask if you have a Liscence be honest if there not ok with that then Move on. I live in Cali and I've done payed makeup for girls for photo shoots and never once was I asked if u had a Liscence. But if your planning on doing industry work id consider financial aide and so cosmetology school
Mar 20 13 11:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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Makeup Artist
Mary
Posts: 7,117
Coronado, California, US


In California you have to be licensed to do makeup in exchange for monetary compensation unless you're working in the entertainment industry...

Very few artists I know have a license of any kind...In all of my years I have not heard of anyone getting even a slap on the hand and so generally I think you're safe here... As far as I know, most States do require a license of some kind but again...it's so hard to police that if you're not in a salon you probably won't ever get into any big trouble.. I would obtain liability insurance at least.

I am 100% against a loan for any type of education... this is how people get into a cycle of trouble that enslaves them forever
Mar 20 13 11:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rachel-Elise
Posts: 1,650
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US


I got my license for Michigan, but have also met makeup artists in MI who actually didn't have any certification, who worked with some really big names... so I really think it depends more on your quality of work and making sure you're being smart about who you tell that you don't have state certification.

Also, if you do get certification from one state, it may or may not cover all the requirements of other states.

I totally understand the money thing; when I got my certification, I was still living at home with my parents, so it was actually doable.
Mar 21 13 03:12 am  Link  Quote 
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Rachel-Elise
Posts: 1,650
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US


Mary wrote:
I am 100% against a loan for any type of education... this is how people get into a cycle of trouble that enslaves them forever

This. It caught me. Don't let it catch you!

Mar 21 13 03:12 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
ArtistryImage
Posts: 2,706
Washington, District of Columbia, US


Mary wrote:
...I would obtain liability insurance at least...

+1 QFT    the term here is professional liability insurance not just an umbrella policy there is a difference... speak to your agent about this...  Even though you might include a clause in your contract stating that the client assumes all liability and holds you harmless... unless an attorney licensed to practice in your jurisdiction wrote the aforementioned clause it may or may not be viewed favorably in a civil case...  losing your home in a civil suit isn't a preferred way to find out...

In my market there is only one legitimate agency which represents make-up artist... they query an artist on their initial submission if they are a Licensed Esthetician  There are compelling reasons for this...

Food for thought, how many of you have had clients who query you about skin care issues? Do you feel totally comfortable parroting vender hype back?  Or would you feel more at ease with the merit of a knowledge base an esthetician brings to the table...

Bottom Line? more than anything else, first do no harm... the more you understand about the epidermis upon which you are applying product the more likely you are to honor the limitations of the products you use and the clients you work with...

hope this helps...

Mar 21 13 05:25 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
ThirdEyeMakeup
Posts: 299
Los Angeles, California, US


Mary wrote:
In California you have to be licensed to do makeup in exchange for monetary compensation unless you're working in the entertainment industry...

Mary, when you say that you technically have to be licensed to apply makeup for monetary compensation, does it matter whether it is an esthetician's license or a cosmetology license?

Does anyone know if both of these licenses are equal in terms of State board protection?

Mar 21 13 10:26 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
curiosa des yeux
Posts: 1,457
Seattle, Washington, US


Having a license does not protect you from liability, so I don't imagine it would help you in the way you want. People can sue you whether you are licensed or not. People can sue you whether there is legitimate cause to or not. The best way to protect yourself from liability issues is to have insurance. If you've been in business for at least 5 years, you should have no problem getting inexpensive business insurance to cover you. Consult with a sales rep regarding the ideal amount, but I'd guess that $2million would be in the right neighborhood. The cost of insurance is really not that much, probably $30/month or less.

As I understand it, in most (if not all) states it is fine to do makeup in entertainment without a license, but to do makeup for weddings or other actual service type situations often requires a license. Of course, you need a business license in any case.
Mar 21 13 10:50 am  Link  Quote 
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Makeup Artist
Mary
Posts: 7,117
Coronado, California, US


ThirdEyeMakeup wrote:

Mary, when you say that you technically have to be licensed to apply makeup for monetary compensation, does it matter whether it is an esthetician's license or a cosmetology license?

Does anyone know if both of these licenses are equal in terms of State board protection?

If you are just doing makeup and skin care you do not need a full cosmetology license... Just an  esthetician's license... much less time and cheaper.  Like I said...It's not necessary in the entertainment industry but it can't hurt.

Mar 22 13 01:52 am  Link  Quote 
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