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Mizz Amanda Marie
Posts: 1,570
Chicago, Illinois, US


Tattoos are a personal choice that aren't anyone's business but the owner of the body; you don't like 'em that bad, don't shoot that person.
Problem solved.

No one cares if you don't like their tattoos.

I'm just sayin'.
Kamehameha, bitches.

Edit: And, I got the top of da page ^^
Mar 22 13 11:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kenn Freeman
Posts: 18
Oxnard, California, US


That brings me back to my main point.  When I shoot nudes, I want the focus to be on the body and not one specific part changed by a piece of art.  And it seems to be getting harder and harder to find a model who doesn't have tattoos on some part of her body.  Again, I like a lot of tattoos.  I also like Double Stuff Oreos.  But I don't want them to be the only cookie in the world.
Mar 23 13 11:06 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Looknsee Photography
Posts: 21,157
Portland, Oregon, US


Kenn Freeman wrote:
Now don't get me wrong.  I like tattoos for the most part.  Some of them can be rather large and intrusive for a shoot but they are art.  But I'm just curious.  Is it now a requirement that ALL glamour models have tattoos?  It sure seems that way.

Some photographers love tattoos.
Some photographers don't care.
Some photographers (like me) hate photographing tattoos.

Some clients don't care.
Some clients hate having tattoos in the photos advertising their product/services.
Few clients love tattoos.

In my opinion...
...  Tattoos are always distracting.  Always.
...  You are right -- tattoos are art; therefore, photographing a tattoo is copying
     someone else's art.
...  Not all glamor models have tattoos.
...  Everything a model does that impacts their appearance will impact their prospects.

Mar 23 13 11:17 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
WCR3
Posts: 1,024
Houston, Texas, US


Looknsee Photography wrote:
...  Tattoos are always distracting.  Always.

True dat.

Mar 24 13 06:50 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Todd Taulman
Posts: 131
Indianapolis, Indiana, US


As a full time commercial photographer I know when I am looking for models for assignments the first thing I have my agency do is remove all potential models with visible tattoos. If the tattoos will not be seen under clothing, no big deal. I or my client has rejected many models that would have been prefect because of tattoos on arms, necks, legs that if they did not have them would have been hired.
My personal work always leans towards models without or very little tattoos. If it is one I can easily take out, no big deal, but if a model has full sleeve, tramp stamp, big chest tattoo, etc. I am very unlikely to hire a that model. Always exceptions for certain models/projects, but that would be my rule of thumb.
Mar 24 13 07:02 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
IMAGINERIES
Posts: 633
New York, New York, US


I have no problems with tattooes if they are a true piece of art and he model
has no objections to posing nude. I find a pattern interrupted by a bra or any other clothing, kind of annoying. But thank to photoshop....It is not a major problem. I friend of mine spent $300 on a mediocre ink...and now may have to spend $1500 in 6 painful laser sessions to remove it, and could result in a slight
discoloration of the area.
Mar 24 13 08:59 am  Link  Quote 
Model
shibaswindler
Posts: 205
Milton Keynes, England, United Kingdom


Just thought I'd take this chance to post my first tattoo, done a few days ago. Would this put you off?

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/subaruimpreza/image_zps0dc061ef.jpg
Mar 24 13 07:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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MB JenB
Posts: 2,980
Clarksville, Tennessee, US


Kenn Freeman wrote:
Now don't get me wrong.  I like tattoos for the most part.  Some of them can be rather large and intrusive for a shoot but they are art.  But I'm just curious.  Is it now a requirement that ALL glamour models have tattoos?  It sure seems that way.

Hi,

Mine limit my art modeling opportunities. I don't know about Glamour.

I also do not think that every ink is for Alt either...I'm not one at all.

Jen

Todd Taulman wrote:
As a full time commercial photographer I know when I am looking for models for assignments the first thing I have my agency do is remove all potential models with visible tattoos. If the tattoos will not be seen under clothing, no big deal.... Always exceptions for certain models/projects, but that would be my rule of thumb.

Hi,
At least its nice to know someone is thinking and won't reject "all" models with ink because when the ink won't show it shouldn't be a factor, generally. Although mine are taking up some skin real estate. Yes, I want to be a commercial model and am going to have to do some work to find my niche, (my fun is art modeling and that is tricky too!)

Mar 24 13 10:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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MB JenB
Posts: 2,980
Clarksville, Tennessee, US


Mizz Amanda Marie wrote:
Tattoos are a personal choice that aren't anyone's business but the owner of the body; you don't like 'em that bad, don't shoot that person.
Problem solved.

No one cares if you don't like their tattoos.

I'm just sayin'.
Kamehameha, bitches.

Edit: And, I got the top of da page ^^

?
King of the Hawaiin Islands? Butterfly? Kamehameha? smile

Mar 24 13 10:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Michael Broughton
Posts: 2,220
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada


shibaswindler wrote:
Just thought I'd take this chance to post my first tattoo, done a few days ago. Would this put you off?

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/subaruimpreza/image_zps0dc061ef.jpg

only if she blows me a kiss. tongue

Mar 24 13 10:56 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
MB JenB
Posts: 2,980
Clarksville, Tennessee, US


Michael Broughton wrote:

only if she blows me a kiss. tongue

Ha, ha, ha ha!

wink, punker...blow!

Mar 25 13 12:09 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
A K
Posts: 182
Charleston, South Carolina, US


I definitely seek models without tattoos. I understand that some photographers may specifically seek tattoos and others may be indifferent. It's be interesting to conduct a poll of avoid/seek/don't care to know if tattoos make you more/less/same marketable.
Mar 25 13 07:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kyle T Edwards
Posts: 430
St Catharines, Ontario, Canada


AK, I was thinking about the same thing, but there would be too many qualifiers.  As an example, if I'm doing work for L'Oreal, the only ink I want to see is on the contract, but if I'm shooting for Interscope Records, anything short of a half sleeve need not apply.

Personal projects, for me anyway, work the same way.  Sometimes no ink is mandatory, sometimes ink is mandatory, and most times it depends on the ink and the shoot.

So as to whether I'm fer it er aginnit (dagnabbit), my answer always hinges on these three questions (and my answer only applies to that given shoot):

1) What project are we working on?
2) What are the tattoos?
3) Where are the tattoos?

In the interest of disclosure, I have tattoos.
Mar 25 13 09:01 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Adam Delane
Posts: 1
Cincinnati, Ohio, US


Mar 25 13 01:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Gabrielle Heather
Posts: 10,064
Middle Island, New York, US


shibaswindler wrote:
Just thought I'd take this chance to post my first tattoo, done a few days ago. Would this put you off?

honestly? to me, it tells me, or makes me feel like, you are a liar.

Mar 25 13 02:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Alexandra Isabella
Posts: 1
Marbella, Andalusia, Spain


''Good models don't have tattoos" This is hypocrisy.
many models have tattoos, scoutings, bookers and modeling agencies directors have tattoos.
Ok, I think if you have a half-sleeve tattoo,  is very difficult to get work as a fashion model (catwalk model) or fashion photography, but you can work as tattoo model.
but is very different if you have small tattoos, or hidden tattoos.
I've tattoos (small tattoos) but I can cover it (kryolan makeup, poses...)

This is my opinion
Sorry for my english,
xo
Mar 25 13 02:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
IMAGINERIES
Posts: 633
New York, New York, US


shibaswindler wrote:
Just thought I'd take this chance to post my first tattoo, done a few days ago. Would this put you off?

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/subaruimpreza/image_zps0dc061ef.jpg

Looking lovely!! Would you have "Shaken, not stirred" on the other side?

Mar 25 13 03:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rob Photosby
Posts: 2,460
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia


Kenn Freeman wrote:
... but they are art? ...

It depends on your perspective.

Badly drawn cupcakes are art if the "artist" is five years old.  Graffiti is art to some.  Andy Warhol's work is art to some.

Art is supposed to communicate something special, something timeless.

The fact that tattoo removal is the fastest growing area in cosmetic surgery is proof enough that a significant proportion of tattoos are little more than graffiti that the wearer has tired of, and, in the wearer's opinion, no longer qualifies as art.

Mar 25 13 04:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rob Photosby
Posts: 2,460
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia


shibaswindler wrote:
Just thought I'd take this chance to post my first tattoo, done a few days ago. Would this put you off?

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/subaruimpreza/image_zps0dc061ef.jpg

It would limit the posing options significantly.  Poses from the side or the back would be off the agenda.

Mar 25 13 04:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sarah Sarina
Posts: 1
Spring Hill, Florida, US


I am a model that has many tattoos. I also understand that it will limit my work. I don't feel that my tattoos will hold me back though. To me I just try and cover the tattoos if that is what the customer wants. I work for a large business and my tattoos have to be covered. I do a great job at making sure they are covered and no one would ever know until they see me outside of work. Has any models ever tried using tattoo makeup to cover their tattoos?
Mar 25 13 04:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
shibaswindler
Posts: 205
Milton Keynes, England, United Kingdom


Gabrielle Heather wrote:

honestly? to me, it tells me, or makes me feel like, you are a liar.

Ha. I like this.

Mar 25 13 07:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
shibaswindler
Posts: 205
Milton Keynes, England, United Kingdom


IMAGINERIES wrote:

Looking lovely!! Would you have "Shaken, not stirred" on the other side?

Haha brilliant. I might...

Mar 25 13 07:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
TomFRohwer
Posts: 618
Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany


Mizz Amanda Marie wrote:
Tattoos are a personal choice that aren't anyone's business but the owner of the body

They are the business of the model's customer, too.

you don't like 'em that bad, don't shoot that person.
Problem solved.

At least somebody should tell the ladies: "You want to know how to improve your chances to aquire modelling jobs? Okay, there are a few answers to this. Most are complex but one is very plain and simple: do not have your body tattoed."

When it comes to tattoos in modelling (besides the pro fashion models' industry) you can see a huge and widening gap between supply and demand.

A majority of models seem to like getting inked - a majority of photographers prefer un-inked models. As always there are some clever people who benefit from this gap. ;-)

Photographers may curse but nobody has a right to comlain.

Apr 25 13 04:28 am  Link  Quote 
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Twila Jean
Posts: 57
Portland, Oregon, US


WCR3 wrote:
Tattoos may or may not be something of a passing fad. On the one hand, think about Mohawk and similar haircuts. You just don't see many of them these days, but a decade or so ago they were everywhere. But with a Mohawk you could grow it out and it would be gone. Not so with a tattoo. Unless you're willing to go through a lot of your savings and a lot of pain, it's with you forever.

On the other hand, when rap music first came out I was convinced it wouldn't last a year. See how wrong I was. Maybe tattoos will be popular for decades or even centuries.

Passing fad?? Do you know nothing of tattoos? A. they are not even remotely a new fad. B. they are becoming more and more acceptable and common.
My near-family owns 2 tattoo shops, and have been tattooing for over 2 decades... and they are expanding and taking on new artists. I assure you, this is not a "fad"
And honestly, I don't think most people wish they could take their tattoos back unless they are stupid, and get cheap or free "art" from a non reputable tattooist, or they get someones name tattooed on them.

Apr 25 13 10:43 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
rxz
Posts: 144
Glen Ellyn, Illinois, US


Louis Li Photography wrote:
I love shooting tattoo model,chest piece or back piece.I treat it  like as a piece of art.

I have a Tibetan beaded chest plate models can wear if I want a pattern on their chest.  Then it can be removed for bare unadorned skin.

Apr 25 13 12:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
JadeDRed
Posts: 5,397
London, England, United Kingdom


Looknsee Photography wrote:
...  Tattoos are always distracting.  Always.

Tits are distracting. Never hear many photographers whining about too many tits in pictures.

Apr 25 13 01:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Trisha May Photography
Posts: 304
Colchester, Connecticut, US


To be honest I would rather shoot with models that have and are heavily tattoo'd.
Apr 25 13 01:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
KellenJordan
Posts: 25
San Diego, California, US


Id say it depends a lot on the placement and content of the tattoo. It also is dependent on what the theme of the shoot is or what look the photographer wants.

I have been seeing a lot of tattoos on models lately.
Apr 25 13 02:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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Annie Outlaw
Posts: 1
Amarillo, Texas, US


I have multiple tattoos in different places all varying in size. In my opinion it is a personal preference. Some Photographers like it some don't but someone elses opinion should not decide what you want to do with your body. I have also been told not to get anymore tattooes but also told its great! Do what you want with your body! smile
Apr 25 13 02:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Fresh Faces Photography
Posts: 257
Santa Rosa, California, US


Almost everyone has certain limitations. Height is the most common. Then weight, acne, physical deformities... etc. Each one limits the work a model can expect to get. Now if you add tattoos, piercings and unnaturally colored hair, you have excluded yourself from 90% of the reasons a photog or art director will choose you for a job.
Apr 25 13 05:15 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Scoria
Posts: 55
Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada


JadeDRed wrote:
Tits are distracting. Never hear many photographers whining about too many tits in pictures.

lol too true!

Apr 25 13 05:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kenn Freeman
Posts: 18
Oxnard, California, US


JadeDRed wrote:

Tits are distracting. Never hear many photographers whining about too many tits in pictures.

May 02 13 03:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kenn Freeman
Posts: 18
Oxnard, California, US


Kenn Freeman wrote:

With one model, you're pretty much limited to a maximum of two tits.  I've seen individual models with a way lot more tats that that.

May 02 13 03:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
sidney_k
Posts: 874
Paris, Île-de-France, France


shibaswindler wrote:
Just thought I'd take this chance to post my first tattoo, done a few days ago. Would this put you off?

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/subaruimpreza/image_zps0dc061ef.jpg

That seems to be a popular spot for tattoos.

I have always questioned myself to which audience this positioning was intended to be.

May 02 13 03:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Tiffany Bond
Posts: 76
West Jordan, Utah, US


If I were going to pursue modeling as a super serious career rather than a hobby or sidework, I wouldn't get tattoos. I think the worst I've seen are models with large portions of their bodies tattooed... which to me, only makes them eligible for a very limited clientele, which is really a shame, because some of them are beautiful women! The second worst I see are models that have chest or stomach tattoos. Those tend to stand out in strange ways and can be hard to hide (especially chest/collarbone pieces)

Not to mention that I am super picky about tattoos to begin with, and I think most people have substandard quality tattoos that I would never want in a shoot if I were a photographer.
May 02 13 03:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Tiffany Bond
Posts: 76
West Jordan, Utah, US


WCR3 wrote:
From a photographer's point of view, I dislike tattoos and won't hire a model with more than a little one that I can remove easily in Photoshop. Invariably, the eye of a viewer of a photo of a model with a tattoo goes immediately to the tat -- often just to see what it is. But whatever the reason, I've lost the viewer. If I've taken the time to set up the shot well, I want the eye on the face or shape of the body of the model, or damn near anything but the tattoo. Tattoos just don't work for me with the kind of images I want to create.

Bottom line, you can always get a tattoo, but unlike a bad haircut, you can't make it go away easily.

Exactly. This, to me, is the perfect answer. Every time I see a picture of a model with a tattoo, to me, the picture becomes about the tattoo. When I see a beautiful rear-nude shot with a giant tattoo stamped on her back, I automatically feel like it's more advertisement for the tattoo than the model themselves.

May 02 13 04:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
LexLethal
Posts: 671
New Orleans, Louisiana, US


I have tattoos and haven't seem to run into much of a problem. Granted, I list what they are on my profile and they aren't huge but the stars on my side are noticeable from that angle. When I turn around, you can see the treble clef in the center of my back. Also, not big but it's there. I've had my tattoos photo shopped out, no biggie. I've covered them myself, piece of cake. I've posed to where you can't see them, even easier.
Hell, I'm doing two shoots soon where I'm trading time for tattoos so I suppose not everyone has a problem with them. If they do, they go on to the next model or just don't book me when I ask to shoot with them. Case closed.

I do think that models should know how to cover their own tattoos, though. That, I feel, can come in handy with some photographers who may like the look of a model but not necessarily be into her tattoos. Eh, but what do I know.
May 02 13 04:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,309
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


I don't shoot that much anymore. But when I do, I work with photographers who don't seem to mind my ink. I already know that some photographers won't work with me because of it. I honestly don't really give a shit.
May 04 13 07:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,573
Salinas, California, US


Tattoos are a personal choice.  It's also a matter of taste.  Some I like some, and even love some, but there are some that turn me off.  Things like a boyfriends name scrolled in graffiti font across her breast area for example ... is a huge turn off!  Tastefully done art work that enhances the model is what I like.  Tattoos are common for alternative models.  However, if I have a clean canvas to work with, then I have more options in shooting that model.  Also something that should be considered is that you can have a body painter do incredible things and then it comes off, where as a tattoo is not going to be erased as easily and might even interfere with some projects.

Just a suggestion;  If you want to see what you'd look like "inked up" then try having a body painter do it for you first to see how you like it?
May 04 13 08:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Charlie-CNP
Posts: 2,620
New York, New York, US


David Nelson Photograph wrote:
It will make you less marketable.

^^ edit. Not necessarily. It only makes those that have tattoos marketable to either niche genres of work, or to those who want to shoot them with tattoos. It is very subjective just as peoples choice to do whatever they want with their own bodies.

Personally, I am a strong supporter of people if they want to get tattooed. It is art and self expression. However, having a lot of friends that are tattoo artists, and working as an artist who has illustrated tattoo pieces for friends before, I can tell you that getting the right artist to get your tattoo done is crucial. Just like any art, placement, composition, technique..etc. are crucial to if the tattoo looks amazing and enhances the human figure as art, or if it simply looks like something that came out of a cracker jack box.

but with that said, I also understand those who are old school and want a "blank canvas" per say. However, I think that a lot of times this is done for the wrong reasons. Companies in the commercial world for example simply don't want the models "message" on his/her tattoo to influence their brand. Others are against tattoos for various different reasons. but one thing to consider for example for those of you who are looking for models that are "blank canvases". There are products out there that are makeup that will easily cover a tattoo if you think someone fits what you want to shoot. This is just a suggestion, but try shooting with a model that is tattooed vs. not. Most often you will find a much more open minded individual that will be willing to work with you vs. not.

bottom line, do what you want with your own bodies. In the end it doesn't matter. There are plenty of people that will shoot with and without tattoos, and these days tattoos are becoming much more widely accepted than they ever have been prior. I wouldn't be surprised within the next 10-15 years if most of the corporate hold outs that make people cover their art don't care anymore too. just my .02 cents.

May 04 13 08:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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