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Justin

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Fort Collins, Colorado, US

Anyone wanna talk about the difference between "less" and "fewer"?

I didn't think so. Me neither, kinda.

Fewer in number, less in amount. There are fewer people who believe as I do. There's less Jack Daniels in his drink than mine.

Thank you.

Apr 02 13 08:33 pm Link

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EvaScarlet

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Los Angeles, California, US

Kincaid Blackwood wrote:
The 21st century bastardization of the words "win" and "fail" come to mind…

Aw, come on...it's epic, man.

tongue













(P.S. You hit two of my greatest grievances, actually. "This day is so full of win!!!" "That was an epic fail!!" herp herp fucking derp...
I hate it, because now on occasion, when I really want to say that something is epic- and I mean, epic in the true definition of the word- I always refrain!!! Way to chip away at the English language, fucking internet/hipsters/kids/whatever the fuck is to blame for this travesty...)

Apr 03 13 03:19 am Link

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K I C K H A M

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Los Angeles, California, US

Drew Smith Photography wrote:

I'm impressed that you can determine the duration of your confusion down to hundredths of a second. tongue

Here's one: 'I can't start doing that because it'll set a president.'

You don't want to start setting presidents all over the place.

Apr 03 13 03:22 am Link

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Drew Smith Photography

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Nottingham, England, United Kingdom

K I C K H A M wrote:
You don't want to start setting presidents all over the place.

If I were American my rebuttal would be.....


https://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/thumbs/2013/02/06/082843/83074105/thankbama.jpg

And just to stay on Topic .../

... 'Renumeration'.

I've actually seen this spelling in financial article written by financiers.

Its ReMuneration.

Apr 03 13 03:34 am Link

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--Ishtar--

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Heerlen, Limburg, Netherlands

Drew Smith Photography wrote:

If I were American my rebuttal would be.....


https://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/thumbs/2013/02/06/082843/83074105/thankbama.jpg

And just to stay on Topic .../

... 'Renumeration'.

I've actually seen this spelling in financial article written by financiers.

Its ReMuneration.

I think renumeration might be a Freudian slip actually. All that renumbering and fudging the statistics....

Apr 03 13 01:25 pm Link

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Orca Bay Images

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Arcata, California, US

K I C K H A M wrote:
You don't want to start setting presidents all over the place.

Nix on that.

Apr 03 13 01:26 pm Link

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Top Level Studio

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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

CheyenneRenae wrote:
And then then THEN when people here say, "Let's go DOWN to the shore!"

The beach isn't South of my location, it's East. Down?? It's... beneath us? Did you mean in the Earth's crust? You might have to drive then, because I don't know how to go "down" there.

Don't you live above sea level?  You can go down to a lower level.  It doesn't have to be directly below you.  People have been going down to the shore as long as there has been a shore.

South doesn't mean the same thing as down.


People don't seem to know that some words have odd plurals.  Data, media, phenomena, alumni, crises, all are plurals.  One person is an alumnus, not an alumni; a thing cannot be a phenomena, you can't deal with one crises at a time.

It's "sneak peek", not "sneak peak", unless that mountain sneaked up behind you.  Or is that "snuck"?  "Snuck" seems to have replace "sneaked".

Apr 03 13 01:54 pm Link

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Top Level Studio

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Vivus Hussein Denuo wrote:
Even worse, IMO, is "like":

"So, I'm like 'What happened?'  So, she's like, 'I don't know.'  So, I'm like, 'Weren't you there?'  So, she's like, "Yeah, but I was passed out.'"

It's not just slang for "said."  The "I'm like" construction leaves it vague as to whether the person said the words or merely thought them, e.g., "So, I'm like WTF?"

How about replacing words with facial expressions or body gestures? 

"I saw him do it, and I was like (grimaces), but he was like (grins), so I was like (shrugs). 

How does anyone communicate that in a phone call?  It's like a text message that has only emoticons, instead of text/words.

I'd guess he meant "I saw him do it, and I was like, wtf, but he was like, s'cool, so I was like, whatev."

Apr 03 13 02:18 pm Link

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Justin

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Fort Collins, Colorado, US

Anyone else have the mental stumble that happens to me when people refer to a "VIN number" or their "PIN number"?

Apr 03 13 03:09 pm Link

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WCR3

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Houston, Texas, US

"How are you?"

"I'm good."

Apr 03 13 08:59 pm Link

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Vivus Hussein Denuo

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New York, New York, US

CheyenneRenae wrote:
I just hate it when people pronounce "water" wrong. I know it's not a saying or a phrase, but I think pronouncing English WORDS wrong is definitely worse than getting the sentence wrong.

Biggest pet peeve.

"This wudder is so refreshing."
"I want some wooder, I'm so thirsty."

I'll give ya a goddamn log.


And then then THEN when people here say, "Let's go DOWN to the shore!"

The beach isn't South of my location, it's East. Down?? It's... beneath us? Did you mean in the Earth's crust? You might have to drive then, because I don't know how to go "down" there.

Standard English pronunciation is "wahter."  But we New Yorkers say "wauter" (rhymes with "slaughter)

What's it TO ya???  smile

And:

Practically everywhere, the beach is at sea level, and places inland are higher than that (New Orleans is the exception).  So, in most cases, one does go "down" to the beach.

Apr 03 13 10:28 pm Link

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EvaScarlet

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Los Angeles, California, US

WCR3 wrote:
"How are you?"

"I'm good."

"How are you?"

"I'm feeling badly."

Apr 03 13 10:50 pm Link

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Orca Bay Images

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Arcata, California, US

Justin wrote:
Anyone else have the mental stumble that happens to me when people refer to a "VIN number" or their "PIN number"?

And they type them into an ATM machine.

Apr 03 13 11:08 pm Link

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Orca Bay Images

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Arcata, California, US

"Data" is plural. "Datum" is singular.

"The data is wrong," is wrong.

At least that's the way it was when I was in college.

Apr 03 13 11:11 pm Link

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Orca Bay Images

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Arcata, California, US

Some deluded networks refer to golf as a sport.

https://talktomejohnnie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/fat-golfer.jpeg

Apr 03 13 11:14 pm Link

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K I C K H A M

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Los Angeles, California, US

Orca Bay Images wrote:

Nix on that.

Watch it. I'm going to set a president right on top of you.
https://www.walyou.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/obama-dashboard.jpg

Apr 03 13 11:15 pm Link

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Orca Bay Images

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K I C K H A M wrote:

Watch it. I'm going to set a president right on top of you.
https://www.walyou.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/obama-dashboard.jpg

Just don't want any Dick.

Apr 03 13 11:17 pm Link

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Vivus Hussein Denuo

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New York, New York, US

"I'm going to try and find a job."

No, you're going to try TO find a job.

First, you might try to learn English.

Apr 03 13 11:25 pm Link

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K I C K H A M

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Los Angeles, California, US

Vivus Hussein Denuo wrote:
"I'm going to try and find a job."

No, you're going to try TO find a job.

First, you might try to learn English.

Maybe they just have a positive attitude.

I'm going to try and [I'm going to] find a job.


I may be reaching but that specific sentence can make sense. tongue

Apr 03 13 11:42 pm Link

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Vivus Hussein Denuo

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K I C K H A M wrote:

Maybe they just have a positive attitude.

I'm going to try and [I'm going to] find a job.


I may be reaching but that specific sentence can make sense. tongue

I thought of that.  That's why I used the example of finding a job.  I hired many people, for law firm work, but I would never hire someone who thought "try and find" was good English, notwithstanding that it can be interpreted as making sense.

As Chris Rock said, there's a way to talk if you WANT a job.  smile

Apr 03 13 11:53 pm Link

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K I C K H A M

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Los Angeles, California, US

Vivus Hussein Denuo wrote:

I thought of that.  That's why I used the example of finding a job.  I hired many people, for law firm work, but I would never hire someone who thought "try and find" was good English, notwithstanding that it can be interpreted as making sense.

As Chris Rock said, there's a way to talk if you WANT a job.  smile

I was just being silly. tongue

If someone was planning to use that sentence correctly, they would probably avoid that wording anyway knowing that the structure would be misunderstood and make them look dumb.

Apr 03 13 11:56 pm Link

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Vivus Hussein Denuo

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K I C K H A M wrote:

I was just being silly. tongue

If someone was planning to use that sentence correctly, they would probably avoid that wording anyway knowing that the structure would be misunderstood and make them look dumb.

I knew you were being silly.  I over-corrected.  smile

Apr 04 13 12:02 am Link

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Drew Smith Photography

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Nottingham, England, United Kingdom

WCR3 wrote:
"How are you?"

"I'm good."

But how are you in yourself?

Apr 04 13 12:02 am Link

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C h a r l e s D

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Los Angeles, California, US

Justin wrote:
Yeah, I don't think you'll get others to share in that level of indignation. From Wikipedia:

Wikipedia?  Really?
At least Webster's Dictionary has a:  Water Buffalo
and b: Cape buffalo.  then at c: it lists the ignorant masses definition.

Apr 04 13 04:52 pm Link

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Justin

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Fort Collins, Colorado, US

C h a r l e s  D wrote:
Wikipedia?  Really?

Sure, Wikipedia. I'm not offering a scientific treatise.

At least Webster's Dictionary has a:  Water Buffalo
and b: Cape buffalo.  then at c: it lists the ignorant masses definition.

You mean where it says this?

"c (1) : any of a genus (Bison) of bovids; especially : a large shaggy-maned North American bovid (B. bison) that has short horns and heavy forequarters with a large muscular hump and that was formerly abundant on the central and western plains."

A definition is a definition. Generally, if the definition appears as a definition in the dictionary, it's not "incorrect" to use it that way.

I understand your frustration. It's just not going to catch traction because the nitpicking on taxonomy is swallowed up by general and accepted usage.

And by the way, skipping from Wikipedia over to the American Heritage etymology:

WORD HISTORY:

The buffalo is so closely associated with the Wild West that one might assume that its name comes from a Native American word, as is the case with the words moose and skunk. In fact, however, buffalo can probably be traced back by way of one or more of the Romance languages through Late and Classical Latin and ultimately to the Greek word boubalos, meaning "an antelope or a buffalo." The buffalo referred to by the Greek and Latin words was of course not the American one but an Old World mammal, such as the water buffalo of southern Asia. Applied to the North American mammal, buffalo is a misnomer, bison being the preferred term. As far as everyday usage is concerned, however, buffalo, first recorded for the American mammal in 1635, is older than bison, first recorded in 1774.

Apr 04 13 05:05 pm Link

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Rick Edwards

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Wilmington, Delaware, US

CheyenneRenae wrote:
And then then THEN when people here say, "Let's go DOWN to the shore!"

what's really bad about this is that they say, "Down the shore" NOT "Down to the shore"

two of my peeves are "ax" instead of "ask"
and I heard a radio spot that U of the Arts in Philly ran that the announcer (probably produced in-house) said, "photogaphy" instead of "photography".  I called them and complained about it.

Apr 04 13 05:12 pm Link

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ethasleftthebuilding

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Key West, Florida, US

Is it...

Runners Up

-or-

Runner Ups

Apr 04 13 05:26 pm Link

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Orca Bay Images

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Arcata, California, US

ernst tischler wrote:
Is it...

Runners Up

-or-

Runner Ups

Runners up.

Just like mothers-in-law, not mother-in-laws.
Just like courts martial, not court-martials.


Times out used to be the only proper plural of time out, but the incorrect timeouts is now accepted.

Apr 04 13 05:30 pm Link

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Orca Bay Images

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CheyenneRenae wrote:
And then then THEN when people here say, "Let's go DOWN to the shore!"

The beach isn't South of my location, it's East. Down?? It's... beneath us? Did you mean in the Earth's crust? You might have to drive then, because I don't know how to go "down" there.

Given that the beach is at sea level, chances are just about everybody who goes to the beach goes down to it. Unless you live in Death Valley or on the field of the Oakland Colisseum.

Apr 04 13 05:36 pm Link

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Rick Edwards

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Wilmington, Delaware, US

"down the shore" is a Philly/south Jersey thing.  I've never heard it any where else.

Apr 04 13 05:44 pm Link

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ethasleftthebuilding

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Key West, Florida, US

ernst tischler wrote:
Is it...

Runners Up

-or-

Runner Ups

Orca Bay Images wrote:
Runners up.

Just like mothers-in-law, not mother-in-laws.
Just like courts martial, not court-martials.


Times out used to be the only proper plural of time out, but the incorrect timeouts is now accepted.

Take a look at this page and see what you find...

https://www.modelmayhem.com/contests/potd

lol

Apr 04 13 06:06 pm Link

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ethasleftthebuilding

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Key West, Florida, US

CheyenneRenae wrote:
And then then THEN when people here say, "Let's go DOWN to the shore!"

The beach isn't South of my location, it's East. Down?? It's... beneath us? Did you mean in the Earth's crust? You might have to drive then, because I don't know how to go "down" there.

Orca Bay Images wrote:
Given that the beach is at sea level, chances are just about everybody who goes to the beach goes down to it. Unless you live in Death Valley or on the field of the Oakland Colisseum.

or Nawlins

Apr 04 13 06:07 pm Link

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CP_

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Seattle, Washington, US

Monad Studios wrote:
"Tow the line"

"begs the question" when it's used to mean "raises the question"

Begs the question is a good one. I've maybe heard it used correctly once. Just don't use it, folks. Just don't.

I would also add "ek-setra," and the term "passive aggressive," which means something quite different from what most people think it means.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-ag … e_behavior

Apr 04 13 06:07 pm Link

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CP_

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Seattle, Washington, US

Drew Smith Photography wrote:
Enormity - meaning 'enormous' right? Nope; it means 'extreme evil'.

Thanks for this--learned something!

Apr 04 13 06:11 pm Link

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Let There Be Light

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The trend in recent years is what I call the verbalization of nouns, transforming nouns into verbs such as Google, fax, email, text, tweet, swiftboat (thank your Karl Rove), snowboard and whole bunch more.   One that really makes me cringe is when someone bastardizes the term commentator and says they're going to commentate.  Apparently they've never heard the word comment.

Apr 04 13 07:01 pm Link

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GCobb Photography

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Southaven, Mississippi, US

Should've doesn't extract into "Should Of"

Apr 04 13 07:07 pm Link

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Orca Bay Images

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Let There Be Light wrote:
The trend in recent years is what I call the verbalization of nouns, transforming nouns into verbs such as Google, fax, email, text, tweet, swiftboat (thank your Karl Rove), snowboard and whole bunch more.   One that really makes me cringe is when someone bastardizes the term commentator and says they're going to commentate.  Apparently they've never heard the word comment.

So, to deviate is actually to devi?

Apr 04 13 07:18 pm Link

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Justin

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Fort Collins, Colorado, US

Let There Be Light wrote:
The trend in recent years is what I call the verbalization of nouns, transforming nouns into verbs such as Google, fax, email, text, tweet, swiftboat (thank your Karl Rove), snowboard and whole bunch more.   One that really makes me cringe is when someone bastardizes the term commentator and says they're going to commentate.  Apparently they've never heard the word comment.

Summed up as:

Don't verb nouns.

Apr 04 13 07:22 pm Link

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Rick Dupuis Photography

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Truro, Nova Scotia, Canada

I got 12 texas today
or
I got 12 textes today.


I axed for a Coke.

All of the posts in this thread remind me of one thing: if you're going to go anywhere in this world, you really need to speak at least one language properly. I do not care which language. You can't just make up your own words.

Apr 04 13 07:24 pm Link

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Orca Bay Images

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Justin wrote:
Don't verb nouns.

https://narwhaler.com/img/8d/d/i-see-what-you-did-there-cat-8ddsxu.jpg

Apr 04 13 07:25 pm Link