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Photographer
MCPHOTO
Posts: 728
Duvall, Washington, US


Models do you check Craigslist casting calls then Model Mayhem? I put the same exact casting on both sites and get reply's from the craigslist one. But the thing is 99% of the models that reply are from Model Mayhem.
Apr 03 13 08:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Danielle Reid
Posts: 3,779
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US


I check CL a lot more because there doesn't seem to be many Casting Calls in my area posted here. At the same time, most of the ads on CL are from GWCs or photographers that produce amateur photos that I can't really use. I guess it's all in the experience.
Apr 03 13 08:15 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sabine Luise
Posts: 890
Boston, Massachusetts, US


I do it when there isn't any castings for me listed. I haven't had work from there since last year though, and surprisingly enough it was for Fashion. Usually, I look for Art type of postings in the NYC area.
Apr 03 13 08:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jeri Lynn Astra
Posts: 240
New York, New York, US


I check it from time to time, but I always check in here first. I've found some good stuff on CL, but overall MM has been more fruitful.

With that said, I tend to exercise more caution with CL stuff. It's not as tight knit, reputation driven community as this is, imho.
Apr 07 13 08:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
CRIMSON REIGN
Posts: 805
Baltimore, Maryland, US


Jeri Lynn Astra wrote:
I check it from time to time, but I always check in here first. I've found some good stuff on CL, but overall MM has been more fruitful.

With that said, I tend to exercise more caution with CL stuff. It's not as tight knit, reputation driven community as this is, imho.

+1

Apr 08 13 05:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Farenell Photography
Posts: 17,849
Albany, New York, US


A secondary question for the models:

If you do check Craigslist for work, which section(s) do you search through?
Apr 08 13 09:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
CRIMSON REIGN
Posts: 805
Baltimore, Maryland, US


I was gonna ask the same thing, but I look under "Gigs' and Artist Community
Apr 08 13 09:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Danielle Reid
Posts: 3,779
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US


I look under Gigs>Talent Gigs. It even says actress, actor, modeling, etc in that sub category.
Apr 08 13 09:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Mary Zdo
Posts: 167
San Ramon, California, US


Whenever I check Craigslist in search of modeling gigs, all I find are postings along the lines of "Looking for sexy 18+ model for porn/erotic nudes/bondage shots/POV adult film/foot fetish photos/etc." usually for someone's personal collection. Not quite what I'm looking for, so I personally tend to only check CL when I'm looking for some laughs rather than for anything serious.

Just checked it for shiggles, actual posting I found: "POV adult models - I am looking for a female between the ages of 18 - 30 who is willing to have nude pictures taken and be filmed doing various extremely explicit stuff naked with me, this is very intimate adult shoot."

Oh goodness.
Apr 08 13 09:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Isis22
Posts: 2,274
Muncie, Indiana, US


I live in a college town so CL ads in my area are mainly geared towards college girls. Most are in the "Gigs" section but some are also in the Etc. section for jobs. I probably check CL more than MM because CL ise usually paid and MM is usually TF, even for nudes. YMMV.
Apr 09 13 05:52 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Caitin Bre
Posts: 1,798
Naperville, Illinois, US


MM is a lot better.
Apr 09 13 06:57 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Abbitt Photography
Posts: 11,343
Oakland Acres, Iowa, US


I've seen the same thing.  The surprising thing is that models with MM accounts don't answer the MM casting, but answer on Craigslist. I'm not sure why that is, but my return from CL is much, much better.  I still find MM very useful for direct contacts.
Apr 09 13 07:06 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Figuremodel001
Posts: 264
Chicago, Illinois, US


No, but do check both
Apr 21 13 06:41 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
The Original Sin
Posts: 13,894
Louisville, Kentucky, US


I do both, but to give you an idea- between Model Mayhem and CL I've probably responded to 50-60 castings in the last week or so.

I've received ONE response on MM (although all messages were read), I've booked seven shoots off CL.  Mostly with photographers who are also on MM, but say they never use the site because of the abysmal flake rate and lack of responses.
Apr 22 13 06:19 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Kelley Nymph
Posts: 93
Baltimore, Maryland, US


I never look twice at craigslist and I'll tell you why:
SCAMMERS AND CREEPERS
I only did one shoot from a craigslist ad, it was because another model and friend of mine asked me to join her for the shoot. It turned really sketchy really fast, and the photographer not only refused to pay us, he also never gave us our images.

Excuse my language, but fuck Craigslist.
Never again.
Apr 22 13 06:22 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Professor X
Posts: 327
Calhoun, Georgia, US


for some strange reason I have found that if you want to shoot an mm model you have to post a cl casting
Apr 22 13 06:26 am  Link  Quote 
Model
DLatrice
Posts: 204
Columbus, Ohio, US


I check both. It seems like CL has more variety but also more porn related shoots. One said a guy wanted to take pics of a girl wearing nothing but whipped cream for his personal collection....EW!!
When I do check CL i look under Gigs and Jobs: Etc and Tv/film/video
I trust the listings on here more than I would there though
Apr 30 13 09:55 am  Link  Quote 
Model
The Original Sin
Posts: 13,894
Louisville, Kentucky, US


I'm in a mentorish mood today, it seems.

As I said previously, I use CL a lot, and to excellent effect.  Of course, YMMV, for various reasons, but I can give you some basic guidelines for why CL works for me, and how I avoid horrible experiences.

The first Rule of CL is:

It's CL.  which means every wannabe porn producer or perv with a tickle in their britches can post a casting.  Not that it's any different than any other modeling site, but they tend to be more blatant about it there.  Avoid any casting that the title looks like this:

$$$$NEED MODELS 18+ NOW$$$$

They're either looking for hookers or porn stars.  So unless that's your job search requirement, don't even waste the click.

Rule 2:

DO look at any other casting for models or promo or event staff (I select ALL GIGS when looking at castings on CL so I see all of these castings at once).  You don't have to respond.  However, here's a sample pulled from today's Nashville Gigs section:

Females to work charity event (Clarksville, TN)

We are hosting a charity event on Fort Campbell Blvd the 5th of May and are looking to hire ten attractive women to help with booths, serving food, and working a carwash. Must have no criminal background. An in-person interview is required. Please respond to this ad with a recent photo and any talents you may have to bring to the table. Compensation will be free food at the event as well as a shop minimum tattoo from our studio.

Okay.. so, no cash.  Shucks.  However.... do you like tattoos?  Even if you don't, maybe you have a friend or family member (or even a photographer you can't afford to pay but might be willing to TFTattoo...) who does and they DO have birthdays... ask if you can have a GC for that tattoo instead, and you can give it as a gift.  They're going to feed you, and chances are, you'll be able to network (take some business cards or comp cards).  If you don't have anything else to do that day- this could be a nice little gig.

Rule 3:

This is where someone is going to come in and blast me- I mass-mail out responses to castings.  It saves me time, energy and aggravation.  As a matter of fact, on a busy day, I may be mass-mailing out castings to three or four different places.  It's not hard.  You type something that looks like this:

About me:

I am reliable, experienced and comfortable in my own skin.  I have several online portfolios (attached images are pulled from my MM), excellent references, and I am planning a trip into Nashville this week.  I work in a wide range of genres- lifestyle, commercial, glamour, art nude, fetish and erotic (solo) nude.  I will work with other models.  I can provide hair and make-up within reason. I am always willing to provide 2257 paperwork or a commercial release signature if needed.

Measurements:
5'5, 115lbs
34B-26-36
Dress Size 2
Shoe 5ize 5
Blonde hair, green eyes, fair skin

Online portfolios:
www.modelmayhem.com/392591
www.modelinsider.com/421

Phone: (if texting, please let me know your name and location)

Email:

If you would like to discuss a shoot, calling me is always the fastest way to do so, as I am not always at the computer.

Thank you!

Renee

You attach your photos (not everyone can see MM photos, for whatever reason)- I try to attach 3-5 of the best out of my portfolio.  If you do nudes, include at least 1 really good nude.

Now select the BCC (blind carbon copy) option for address input.  This keeps the complete email address string from showing up.  It only shows that particular email address to the person receiving it.  Input every email address (copy and paste) that you wish to send your information to.  I use the subject line "Model Available- City" when doing this, so I can see at a glance where a return email is coming from and know what my travel plans for that area are.

Rule 4:

You're still going to get some offers for porn or other stuff you aren't interested in.  (As you do more of this, you learn which ads feel "off" and learn to avoid them more and more.)  IME a quick return of "No thank you, that's not something I'm interested in" works better than just ignoring them.

Rule 5:

If they act shady in communicating- don't want to talk to you directly by phone (I refuse to accept Google Voice or Skype requests at any time), won't give you an actual phone number to reach them out, or say things like "I have to wait until X date when my wife is gone" - it just isn't worth it.

I think that's about it.  The only other thing I can think to mention is that CL is a gold mine for event and promo gigs.  These usually pay well, give you free products/swag, and can be a ton of fun.

Apr 30 13 11:33 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Boreal Photography
Posts: 292
Duluth, Minnesota, US


I just went to post on CL but they want my private phone number for verification. wtf? I am not giving out my private phone number so CL can sell it to text and voice telemarketers and spammers. Guess I will just post on corkboards at the local colleges, in a local laternative newspaper. Screw CL.
Apr 30 13 12:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Cole Morrison
Posts: 3,958
Portland, Oregon, US


I used to check CL a lot. Most of the photographers I found there did not have an MM or seemed "weird". I dont often check it, unless Im trying to find something specific.
I only made the mistake of posting a casting call on there once....
Apr 30 13 12:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Cole Morrison
Posts: 3,958
Portland, Oregon, US


Randall_Oelerich wrote:
I just went to post on CL but they want my private phone number for verification. wtf? I am not giving out my private phone number so CL can sell it to text and voice telemarketers and spammers. Guess I will just post on corkboards at the local colleges, in a local laternative newspaper. Screw CL.

CL has never called or texted me and I've been signed up for years, I dont get telemarketing either.

Apr 30 13 12:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Danielle Reid
Posts: 3,779
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US


Randall_Oelerich wrote:
I just went to post on CL but they want my private phone number for verification. wtf? I am not giving out my private phone number so CL can sell it to text and voice telemarketers and spammers. Guess I will just post on corkboards at the local colleges, in a local laternative newspaper. Screw CL.

The number is so they know you're not some spambot. All they do is send a verification number (5 digits) through text or phone call ONCE! Never again will they EVER contact you.

Apr 30 13 12:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Boreal Photography
Posts: 292
Duluth, Minnesota, US


Okay i might entrust CL with my number then; worst case at least I have a smartphone and with an android app called Phone Warrior that can do a pretty good job at blocking spam-- uses Borg type collective consciousness like gmail does to collect data from the global community on spammers and then block them.
Apr 30 13 01:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jeffrey M Fletcher
Posts: 4,314
Asheville, North Carolina, US


Randall_Oelerich wrote:
Okay i might entrust CL with my number then; worst case at least I have a smartphone and with an android app called Phone Warrior that can do a pretty good job at blocking spam-- uses Borg type collective consciousness like gmail does to collect data from the global community on spammers and then block them.

I think the ph # is part of their anti fraud and prostitution routine. I've never received any extra calls after giving them my number.

Apr 30 13 02:13 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Boreal Photography
Posts: 292
Duluth, Minnesota, US


So I just went to post the ad on CL and this time I decided to just keep it as a TF creative gig, no mention of $. This time I was not asked to provide a phone number. Perhaps the phone number request by CL happens for paid gigs? I don't know, but I am glad I got my ad posted without having to give out my mobile phone number.
May 01 13 11:25 am  Link  Quote 
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