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Leila Nadine
Posts: 36
Bristol, England, United Kingdom


I was wondering what different methods of prepping models/clients with bad skin texture other users have tried to get a flawless base? Sometimes a very good moisturiser and primer just isn't enough! I know Kiko cosmetics have some amazing wipes for dry and flakey skin but what do you guys offer before makeup?
Apr 05 13 05:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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Leila Nadine
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Bristol, England, United Kingdom


Apr 05 13 06:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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ArtistryImage
Posts: 2,754
Washington, District of Columbia, US


Leila DAguilar wrote:
...bad skin texture...

Leila, my prep is pretty standard, cleanse, tone, moisturize, prime... typically work on brows etc for while to allow enough time for the moisturizer softens the skin...

The major difference is to use a heavy cream to "Spackle" surface irregularities... RCMA has been may go to for years here... it just works... 

Helps to set this with a quality matte translucent also...

That said, for challenged skin texture the major component in photo shoots is actually the illumination used in the capture... a huge softbox can/will greatly diffuse a light source and is very kind to challenged skin... 

HOWEVER for events (i.e. weddings, runway, pageants etc.) you simply have to get it right initially... much depends on the viewing distance... not wise to go the route of pancake on bridal (typically view very close in real-time) but this can work effectively on runway which is primarily viewed a quite some distance...

hope this helps...

Apr 05 13 07:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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Leila Nadine
Posts: 36
Bristol, England, United Kingdom


ArtistryImage wrote:

Leila, my prep is pretty standard, cleanse, tone, moisturize, prime... typically work on brows etc for while to allow enough time for the moisturizer softens the skin...

The major difference is to use a heavy cream to "Spackle" surface irregularities... RCMA has been may go to for years here... it just works... 

Helps to set this with a quality matte translucent also...

That said, for challenged skin texture the major component in photo shoots is actually the illumination used in the capture... a huge softbox can/will greatly diffuse a light source and is very kind to challenged skin... 

HOWEVER for events (i.e. weddings, runway, pageants etc.) you simply have to get it right initially... much depends on the viewing distance... not wise to go the route of pancake on bridal (typically view very close in real-time) but this can work effectively on runway which is primarily viewed a quite some distance...

hope this helps...

That does help, many thanks.

Apr 06 13 11:30 am  Link  Quote 
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Lisa Berczel
Posts: 3,992
Corona, California, US


I always include a frank discussion with the photographer after skin prep..... many a lighting, pose, and even shoot theme has been adjusted accordingly.

This step is vital in my makeup process.
Apr 06 13 12:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rudy van den Berg
Posts: 28
s-Gravenhage, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands


If the texture of the skin is terrible I usually start by cleansing the skin then I exfoliate and I end up using 2 masks. One for cleaning pores another one for hydration. Make sure that the hydration mask you use adds `water`to the skin and no lipids. Finish with a good serum and moisturizer.
If the model has acne/pimples skip the exfoliation and just cleans the skin and hidrate it as good as possible making sure to use products that really calm any redness.
Apr 24 13 05:46 am  Link  Quote 
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Leila Nadine
Posts: 36
Bristol, England, United Kingdom


Rudy van den Berg wrote:
If the texture of the skin is terrible I usually start by cleansing the skin then I exfoliate and I end up using 2 masks. One for cleaning pores another one for hydration. Make sure that the hydration mask you use adds `water`to the skin and no lipids. Finish with a good serum and moisturizer.
If the model has acne/pimples skip the exfoliation and just cleans the skin and hidrate it as good as possible making sure to use products that really calm any redness.

Thank you Rudy, may I ask what masks you have had the best results with?

Apr 24 13 07:57 am  Link  Quote 
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Rudy van den Berg
Posts: 28
s-Gravenhage, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands


I have several masks in my skincare kit. For exfoliation I have used caudalie enzymatic peel mask and dermatologica (Ican´t remember what it is called). As a pore cleanser I always use dr. Hauschka, for hidration I end up grabbing caudalie moisturizing mask (I skip the moisturizer after this one and just use a primer). I have recently been given clinique moisture surge night mask, which I have tried on myself but still haven´t had a practice run with it at a shoot and if you want to really give the skin a massive boost try the SKII face mask. I don´t use them on shoots that often but celebrities love them cause they make the skin look amazing. At this moment I am addicted to hydra beauty serum from chanel and guerlain super aqua as a moisturizer. I think the best thing you can do is ask for several samples and test drive them on yourself first. If you like them try them out when you are on a testshoot, so in case something doesn´t go as you want to you don´t have a client breathing down your neck. Good luck!!!
Apr 24 13 02:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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Leila Nadine
Posts: 36
Bristol, England, United Kingdom


Rudy van den Berg wrote:
I have several masks in my skincare kit. For exfoliation I have used caudalie enzymatic peel mask and dermatologica (Ican´t remember what it is called). As a pore cleanser I always use dr. Hauschka, for hidration I end up grabbing caudalie moisturizing mask (I skip the moisturizer after this one and just use a primer). I have recently been given clinique moisture surge night mask, which I have tried on myself but still haven´t had a practice run with it at a shoot and if you want to really give the skin a massive boost try the SKII face mask. I don´t use them on shoots that often but celebrities love them cause they make the skin look amazing. At this moment I am addicted to hydra beauty serum from chanel and guerlain super aqua as a moisturizer. I think the best thing you can do is ask for several samples and test drive them on yourself first. If you like them try them out when you are on a testshoot, so in case something doesn´t go as you want to you don´t have a client breathing down your neck. Good luck!!!

Many Thanks for the info, I'll get on test driving some of these

Apr 24 13 05:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jennifer_May
Posts: 24
Peoria, Illinois, US


Rudy van den Berg wrote:
If the texture of the skin is terrible I usually start by cleansing the skin then I exfoliate and I end up using 2 masks. One for cleaning pores another one for hydration. Make sure that the hydration mask you use adds `water`to the skin and no lipids. Finish with a good serum and moisturizer.
If the model has acne/pimples skip the exfoliation and just cleans the skin and hidrate it as good as possible making sure to use products that really calm any redness.

If you were to do this on a bride, how do you allow for time? I typically wouldn't have the time slot to do all that. When I do the trial I talk to the client and recommend exfoliating and certain products and how valuable it is for their skin and makeup to look good, however they always don't listen. So then on the day of the wedding, their skin is dry and flaky... I use Laura mercer primer...or I use cover F/x primer...(generally they have already put moisturizer on) and their skin just doesn't look good when i airbrush their foundation on.. Any suggestions to that? Btw, I use graftobian airbrush makeup.

Apr 24 13 08:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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JaclynGravesMakeup
Posts: 84
Clifton, New Jersey, US


For dry skin, I use Josie Maran pure argan oil...
2-3 drops... The skin literally drinks it right up, and doesn't leave anything just sitting on your face.. doesn't leave any residue or oily-look (even on myself.. i love this stuff, and i am combination skin) and instantly hydrates... even the dry flaky dull skin! i love love lovvvee it. smile
Apr 25 13 10:03 am  Link  Quote 
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Rudy van den Berg
Posts: 28
s-Gravenhage, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands


Jennifer_May wrote:
If you were to do this on a bride, how do you allow for time? I typically wouldn't have the time slot to do all that. When I do the trial I talk to the client and recommend exfoliating and certain products and how valuable it is for their skin and makeup to look good, however they always don't listen. So then on the day of the wedding, their skin is dry and flaky... I use Laura mercer primer...or I use cover F/x primer...(generally they have already put moisturizer on) and their skin just doesn't look good when i airbrush their foundation on.. Any suggestions to that? Btw, I use graftobian airbrush makeup.

I hardly ever do any brides, I don't enjoy them and they always complain about my rates. So my experience is fairly limited. I would ask her how good she wants to look and then go from there. If life gives you lemons...

Apr 27 13 02:24 am  Link  Quote 
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Bloom Makeup Artistry
Posts: 349
New York, New York, US


Jennifer_May wrote:
If you were to do this on a bride, how do you allow for time? I typically wouldn't have the time slot to do all that. When I do the trial I talk to the client and recommend exfoliating and certain products and how valuable it is for their skin and makeup to look good, however they always don't listen. So then on the day of the wedding, their skin is dry and flaky... I use Laura mercer primer...or I use cover F/x primer...(generally they have already put moisturizer on) and their skin just doesn't look good when i airbrush their foundation on.. Any suggestions to that? Btw, I use graftobian airbrush makeup.

I do a wedding almost every weekend and give my brides a skin care sheet and also a consultation about skincare during the trial run. At that point you can look at their skin and recommend they meet with a trusted skin care professional in the area for exfoliation etc.

During the wedding day I will have them gently exfoliate and I will prep the skin with some Embryolise Lait Cream. That is the extent of what I am willing to do due to time and liability. I would not recommend doing anything harsh to the skin within a few days of the wedding because a bad reaction could cause huge issues.

Apr 27 13 07:04 am  Link  Quote 
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