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C A Bridges
Posts: 155
Orange City, Florida, US


OK, I know the reasons. Sand adds texture, it draws attention where you want it, it adds some fun to the image, whatever.

But I grew up next to a beach, and a lot of my teenage dating occurred at the beach at night. You know what?

Sand isn't sexy. Sand is annoying. Sand gets in everything. Sand has to be brushed off before you can run your hand anywhere smoothly. Sand gets in your mouth and in your clothes and does not contribute to any feeling of sexiness whatsoever. Quite the opposite, in my experience.

I'm sure I'm in the distinct minority, but while I love beach shots, sand clinging to a model turns me right off.

When you shoot on the beach, do you intentionally try for sand effects? Why?
Apr 10 13 06:18 am  Link  Quote 
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JONATHAN RICHARD
Posts: 638
New York, New York, US


C A Bridges wrote:
..... Sand isn't sexy. Sand is annoying. Sand gets in everything.

Sand has to be brushed off before you can run your hand anywhere smoothly.

Sand gets in your mouth and in your clothes and does not contribute to any feeling of sexiness whatsoever....

I'm in the distinct minority, but while I love beach shots, sand clinging to a model turns me right off......

No mention for  concern with sand and your gear ?? ..  One of the more common concerns with sand & a photographer ..


What the hell sort of shooting do you do with your hands and mouth to have such concerns?

Apr 10 13 06:45 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
C A Bridges
Posts: 155
Orange City, Florida, US


It's not the shooting, it's the memories the pictures evoke. Obviously most people see pics of a pretty woman with sand on her butt and think beauty, sun, surf, fun. Me, I remember spitting, cursing, and abruptly discovering why sandpaper is made with beach sand...
Apr 10 13 06:50 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GER Photography
Posts: 7,662
Imperial, California, US


Yeah! I've never understood the sandy ass shots either!:-))
Apr 10 13 06:51 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FredSugar
Posts: 209
Dallas, Texas, US


Depending on the pose, sand is just another prop to play with.
Apr 10 13 06:52 am  Link  Quote 
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rdallasPhotography
Posts: 965
Norristown, Pennsylvania, US


C A Bridges wrote:
OK, I know the reasons. Sand adds texture, it draws attention where you want it, it adds some fun to the image, whatever.

But I grew up next to a beach, and a lot of my teenage dating occurred at the beach at night. You know what?

Sand isn't sexy. Sand is annoying. Sand gets in everything. Sand has to be brushed off before you can run your hand anywhere smoothly. Sand gets in your mouth and in your clothes and does not contribute to any feeling of sexiness whatsoever. Quite the opposite, in my experience.

I'm sure I'm in the distinct minority, but while I love beach shots, sand clinging to a model turns me right off.

When you shoot on the beach, do you intentionally try for sand effects? Why?

You answered your own question at the beginning of the post. Shots aren't intended to necessarily depict things that are pleasant in everyday life. Climbing a tree while nude is not pleasant but that doesn't mean it doesn't make a good shot. People normally don't like to sweat or be covered in mud but they can also make good shots. You just happen to not care for sandy shots that's all.

Apr 10 13 07:00 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Edge of the Moon
Posts: 430
New York, New York, US


So true.
I knew girls that avoided the beach because sand would get into their nooks and crannies. lol
Apr 10 13 07:01 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ezhini
Posts: 1,596
Wichita, Kansas, US


It is not so much as to how fun and sexy sand is...the images of hot girls with sand stuck their body (on boobs, or butt cheeks or wherever) suggests that the girl does not mind getting down and dirty...

The image evoked is about the girls' attitude, not about the convenience/or the lack there of - while doing it on sand!

The beach pictures are for those who have not had a life of teen dating on the beach at night to dream about a girl who does not mind getting nakkid and dirty!

I think ... these images are not so much documentaries about beach make-out sessions, but fantasy pics for people to image things ...
Apr 10 13 07:07 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
I M N Photography
Posts: 2,309
New York, New York, US


C A Bridges wrote:
OK, I know the reasons. Sand adds texture, it draws attention where you want it, it adds some fun to the image, whatever.

But I grew up next to a beach, and a lot of my teenage dating occurred at the beach at night. You know what?

Sand isn't sexy. Sand is annoying. Sand gets in everything. Sand has to be brushed off before you can run your hand anywhere smoothly. Sand gets in your mouth and in your clothes and does not contribute to any feeling of sexiness whatsoever. Quite the opposite, in my experience.

I'm sure I'm in the distinct minority, but while I love beach shots, sand clinging to a model turns me right off.

When you shoot on the beach, do you intentionally try for sand effects? Why?

There are pristine environments in areas with extreme weather conditions. That does not stop photographers from trying to photograph their beauty.

"It's not about how you feel, but how you look" - That's the philosophy behind a lot of model photography.

I think you had vacation ideas in mind instead of photography when you started this thread.

Apr 10 13 07:21 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Chris Thomson
Posts: 9
Miami, Florida, US


Sand is just another creative element that is available like waterdroplets on the body. The imagination is the limit and like all things it can be done well or badly.
My Two best selling image just happen to be sandy bodies.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/13417498

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/32278034
Apr 10 13 07:29 am  Link  Quote 
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 53,895
Buena Park, California, US


C A Bridges wrote:
OK, I know the reasons. Sand adds texture, it draws attention where you want it, it adds some fun to the image, whatever.

But I grew up next to a beach, and a lot of my teenage dating occurred at the beach at night. You know what?

Sand isn't sexy. Sand is annoying. Sand gets in everything. Sand has to be brushed off before you can run your hand anywhere smoothly. Sand gets in your mouth and in your clothes and does not contribute to any feeling of sexiness whatsoever. Quite the opposite, in my experience.

I'm sure I'm in the distinct minority, but while I love beach shots, sand clinging to a model turns me right off.

When you shoot on the beach, do you intentionally try for sand effects? Why?

Intentionally?  Not usually.

But sometimes I'll catch a moment I want...

http://www.pbase.com/digitalcmh/image/82612897.jpg

and I rarely like them to be caked over with it, but sometimes I like it...

http://www.pbase.com/digitalcmh/image/82612896.jpg

that one was actually taken just before the other one.

Apr 10 13 07:43 am  Link  Quote 
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DMesser Photography
Posts: 1,288
Oceanside, California, US


At 66, I don't pretend i'm going to have and romantic with my 20yo model, so the sand isn't a problem.  It is a prop if your at a beach where you can shoot nude and implied nude.  You can use it to cover nipples and the butt crack for implied work.  It is a prop as others have said.  If i'm at the beach for romantic interludes, than I agree with you, but for photography it can be good.
Apr 10 13 07:46 am  Link  Quote 
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Vector One Photography
Posts: 2,651
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US


It's just another concept that has been overused. Something to add to our cliche list. As you can tell, I'm not a fan of the concept.
Apr 10 13 10:03 am  Link  Quote 
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Good Egg Productions
Posts: 15,205
Orlando, Florida, US


You're right.

Chris Issac's Wicked Game video isn't sexy at all. Not one bit.

There's a lot of things that look sexy or arousing but aren't in real life. Just as there a lot of shoes that look sexy on women, but they will tell you it's like foot torture to actually function while wearing them.
Apr 10 13 10:17 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,552
Upland, California, US


Not a big fan of sandy model shots here.  It gets in their hair... all up in their swimsuit and props... in their private parts... in their eyes, ears, nose and throat... in whatever kind of bag they brought... and all over the seats, floor and trunk of the car when you leave.  I like to shoot at beaches where there's some kind of rinse-off station closeby... eliminates takin home alotta that shit.  Restaurants you eat at don't like you leavin it behind either... especially if you're at Ruby's Diner in Laguna Beach... lol   Generally it's just a big pain in the ass... tongue

http://www.modelspremier.com/memberpictures/1355564818-3306_pic29.jpg
Apr 10 13 10:20 am  Link  Quote 
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M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12,116
Tampa, Florida, US


I feel the same way when I see a shot of a llama draped over a kitchen counter or table, pouring milk on herself in the kitchen, or with food items and candy in the tub.

All I think is not wanting to eat my peas when I was little and my mom saying, "There are starving children in Africa!"

Of course, my response was always, "Good...then ship this crap to them." But still...

And are Massengill disposable douche-flavored Skittles supposed to be sexy?
Apr 10 13 10:26 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
J O H N A L L A N
Posts: 9,823
Santa Ana, California, US


And beach sand carries flea larva.
Apr 10 13 10:36 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Laurence Moan
Posts: 7,693
Huntington Beach, California, US


John Allan wrote:
And beach sand carries flea larva.

Huh?

Apr 10 13 10:37 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Laurence Moan
Posts: 7,693
Huntington Beach, California, US


If you're gonna do beach shots you're gonna have to deal with the sand. If the model can't deal with the feel of sand then she's gonna be pretty high maintenance.
Apr 10 13 10:39 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Big A-Larger Than Life
Posts: 33,407
The Woodlands, Texas, US


M Pandolfo Photography wrote:
I feel the same way when I see a shot of a model draped over a kitchen counter or table, pouring milk on herself in the kitchen, or with food items and candy in the tub.

All I think is not wanting to eat my peas when I was little and my mom saying, "There are starving children in Africa!"

Of course, my response was always, "Good...then ship this crap to them." But still...

And are Massengill disposable douche-flavored Skittles supposed to be sexy?

LMFAOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Apr 10 13 10:43 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,552
Upland, California, US


John Allan wrote:
And beach sand carries flea larva.

Ewwwwwww... I knew there was another reason why I didn't like that shit... yikes... tongue

Apr 10 13 10:50 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
-Ira
Posts: 2,180
New York, New York, US


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CHAD ALAN
Posts: 3,336
Los Angeles, California, US


I don't mind sand. It might feel too sterile and clean otherwise if the model was pristine. Kinda like a sexy mechanic shot without the oil. I'd start off clean though and then shoot the messy stuff at the end to have both options.
Apr 10 13 11:52 am  Link  Quote 
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ACPhotography
Posts: 8,616
Plainview, New York, US


-Ira wrote:
Just little sandy, http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/29889414 (18+ ish)

Looks like a long prime wide open... Close?

Apr 10 13 12:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,552
Upland, California, US


ACPhotography wrote:
Looks like a long prime wide open... Close?

This shot was taken in Cabo San Lucas during the Select llamas Sept 2nd 'Cruiseboat Photoshoot', and I'm quite sure Ira shot Tabitha with a Canon 'white barrel' 70-200 F2.8 zoom lens.  It's what I saw him shooting with most the time while on the beach.  Send him a message and he'll probably verify this... wink

Apr 10 13 06:21 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Harris Photography
Posts: 494
Edison, New Jersey, US


Sometimes sand on a llama just makes sense in the composition. This llama was laying in the sand while covered in sunscreen. The result worked for me:

18  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16415456 18
Apr 10 13 07:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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Chris Rifkin
Posts: 24,454
Tampa, Florida, US


Vector One Photography wrote:
It's just another concept that has been overused. Something to add to our cliche list. As you can tell, I'm not a fan of the concept.

Same here....

Apr 11 13 06:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,552
Upland, California, US


Chris Rifkin wrote:

Same here....

Also agree... but with no warm body hosts... the poor sand fleas are now on the endangered list... hmm... lol

Apr 11 13 10:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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