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V for Victory Modeling
Posts: 436
Roseville, California, US


How do photographers decide on the # of images to give a model? I know some people hand over whatever they thought was best and others seem to have a standard, such as pick this # of shots you'd like me to edit and send to you. When I first started modeling, I wasn't pleased if I got 3-5 images, but now that I've been modeling nearly a year, I definitely prefer 3-5 amazing images I can use in my port versus a ton of mediocre ones.
Apr 15 13 12:26 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Drew Smith Photography
Posts: 5,000
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom


Hi Valerie

They're all different with different policies. The best you'll get from this post is some idea of an average.

I try to get at least 1 image that kicks ass from the shoot. If there are more then that's a bonus. I think as you do that I'd rather have a port full of a small number of kick ass images than copious amounts of mediocre. smile
Apr 15 13 12:46 am  Link  Quote 
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Rachel-Elise
Posts: 1,650
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US


It really varies from trade shoot to trade shoot. Your best bet is to arrange this beforehand with the photographer. I've had some give me all the unedited files and say, "Pick however many you want (usually between 5-20 images from the entire shoot), and I'll edit them." I've also had photographers not show me any of the unedited shots, and email me anywhere from 3-5 that he chose. I've also experienced varying degrees in between.

You really need to sort it out with the photographer BEFORE you arrive at the set, so there's much less tension throughout the actual day.
Apr 15 13 01:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
glumpy
Posts: 516
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


I usually give the model a copy of all the images taken.
Unlike a lot of shooters I don't have a phobia about any image that I haven't Photo fiddled ruining my reputation or ending any chance of me ever getting a paid client again.
Lots of people have told me they like getting all the shots because it helps them learn in what did and didn't work for them, what their best looks are etc.

Some people I work with I would be happy to use 100 shots from the shoot to promote myself and stand by as the standard of my work and others I struggle to find one.
It's just the name of the game.  Some people might be rank amateurs but you are on the same wave length, they are good at expressing themselves and have the right mindset and it's like no one can do any wrong.

OTOH, sometimes the connection just isn't there and getting a good image is much harder and has to be sweated for.

On this alone the amount of images a shooter might provide would vary and as wisely mentioned, the time to discuss this as with everything is BEFORE the shoot so there is no misunderstandings or hard feelings after the fact.
Apr 15 13 02:17 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25,319
Bath, England, United Kingdom


I specify a minimum of 3 images from a trade shoot, although I almost invariably give at least twice this.

If a model wants more images after I've sent her my retouched choices then I may (depending on her attitude) send her a link to a gallery of selects and let her choose a few more, but this is by no means guaranteed.




Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com
Apr 15 13 03:05 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
The Something Guy
Posts: 14,769
Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom


If there's time I go through the unretouched images shot on the day.
Apr 15 13 03:10 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Digitoxin
Posts: 13,308
Houston, Texas, US


2 fully retouched images per look.

Three look session = 6 images.
Apr 15 13 03:22 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Darren Brade
Posts: 2,715
London, England, United Kingdom


Valerie Kelly wrote:
How do photographers decide on the # of images to give a model? I know some people hand over whatever they thought was best and others seem to have a standard, such as pick this # of shots you'd like me to edit and send to you. When I first started modeling, I wasn't pleased if I got 3-5 images, but now that I've been modeling nearly a year, I definitely prefer 3-5 amazing images I can use in my port versus a ton of mediocre ones.

How?

By the amount of time I have to retouch them.  I can spent anything up to 6 hours per photo retouching.

Apr 15 13 08:21 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ontherocks
Posts: 22,066
Salem, Oregon, US


models may only use one or two on mayhem but they can post a ton on Facebook.

i give them a full session gallery and let them choose their favorites for retouching. on the last couple shoots i think i've managed to retouch about 8 or 9. i try to do at least 2-3 per hour of shoot time. as i've gotten more efficient at retouching i've been able to deliver more.
Apr 15 13 08:50 am  Link  Quote 
Model
V for Victory Modeling
Posts: 436
Roseville, California, US


Digitoxin wrote:
2 fully retouched images per look.

Three look session = 6 images.

I just shot with someone yesterday with this same exact policy.

Apr 15 13 09:52 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Robert L Baker
Posts: 2
Napa, California, US


If your photographer is giving you everything, it's a sure bet that they are not finished images.

Every photo I take is finished in photoshop. I never let unedited images escape into the wild.

There are a ton of photographers out there that will tell you that "they get everything right in camera", they're SO GOOD that they don't need to edit their images.

They consider themselves "purists".

Don't get me wrong, I am all for trying to get everything right in the camera, it would be stupid not to, but I have yet to see an image straight out of the camera that couldn't be improved with just a bit more work. At a minimum one of the following will be needed: color correction, noise removal, contrast adjustment and sharpening.

Your out of the camera photo might be better than most, but if you're not trying to make your image as perfect as possible, why are you even a photographer?

My policy stems from the fact that you are only as good as your worst image. Smart clients look at your work, identify the worst one, and realize that could be them in that photo.

Good editing takes time, so when you only get six photos from your photographer, be aware that each photograph can take up to an hour to edit. Sometimes more if there is a lot of skin work to be done.

Your photographers work doesn't end after the last click, it's really only just beginning. It's not unusual for my editing time to be double or triple the amount of time spent on the shoot.

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Apr 15 13 11:03 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M Barnes Photography
Posts: 202
Palmerston North, Manawatu-Wanganui, New Zealand


I try to discuss it with the model beforehand. If she is bringing the outfits and brings six different looks, then I'll make sure - as mentioned above - she gets at least two shots per look.

I often change the lighting up a lot, too, so it tends to be more than two.

Normally, I find I typically hand over 10-15 shots on a two hour TFP shoot.

And nobody sees unedited shots but me.
Apr 16 13 04:45 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Kelleth
Posts: 2,438
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


There's really little need for more than 1 amazing shot from each look (unless one look had both a beauty shot and a full length shot). I prefer to get a smaller number of quality images than a bunch i know i'll never be able to use.
Apr 16 13 01:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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Raleigh, North Carolina, US


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