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Digital Czar
Posts: 933
Oak Park, Illinois, US


They've been the rage for quite a while now and last week on CBS in Chicago it was reported that

"CBS 2’s Mary Kay Kleist reports one in eight people with a tattoo now regrets having it, but there’s a right and a wrong way to erase it."


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/04/08/ … right-way/
Apr 15 13 11:59 am  Link  Quote 
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WMcK
Posts: 5,202
Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom


Hopefully, yes. I really hate tattoos, especially on women.
Apr 15 13 01:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rachel-Elise
Posts: 1,650
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US


I didn't check out the link, but my gut reaction is that this could be true, or it could be a spin, based on what the reporter/news agency wanted people to think.

Of course, that can be said about just about anything.
Apr 15 13 01:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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Good Egg Productions
Posts: 14,709
Orlando, Florida, US


They're pretty ordinary these days.

It seems you're more unique if you DON'T have a tattoo than if you do.
Apr 15 13 01:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kyle T Edwards
Posts: 410
St Catharines, Ontario, Canada


So here's the question; has that percentage (1 in 8) increased in recent years?  Just because the raw numbers of people who regret tattoos go up, it doesn't mean a thing about the percentage, especially when there are no historical numbers to compare it to.  After all, more people are getting tattoos than in past years.  For all we know, one in four could have regretted it in the past, showing that more people are liking their tattoos than before!

Sorry, all I got out of this was some kid who picked a bad design, had a bad artist ink it, regretted it, and is doing something about it.  DILLIGAF?
Apr 15 13 01:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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testingphotography
Posts: 184
Seattle, Washington, US


I've had two female employees who were going in for tattoo removal every month when they got paid.  They said it was much more painful then getting tat originally.
They were removing tats visible in normal dress (arm "bands" and wrist), not "hidden" tats.
Apr 15 13 02:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Nico Simon Princely
Posts: 1,586
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


I hope they are going away. But until it's 5 in 8 I'd say not statistically speaking. But I do think it's on the decline.
Apr 15 13 02:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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Designit - Edward Olson
Posts: 1,613
Eureka, California, US


Digital Czar wrote:
They've been the rage for quite a while now and last week on CBS in Chicago it was reported that

"CBS 2’s Mary Kay Kleist reports one in eight people with a tattoo now regrets having it, but there’s a right and a wrong way to erase it."


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/04/08/ … right-way/

There is always the pendulum swing, and also a lack of discretionary income.

Apr 15 13 02:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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David Nelson Photograph
Posts: 339
Eau Claire, Wisconsin, US


Digital Czar wrote:
They've been the rage for quite a while now and last week on CBS in Chicago it was reported that

"CBS 2’s Mary Kay Kleist reports one in eight people with a tattoo now regrets having it, but there’s a right and a wrong way to erase it."


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/04/08/ … right-way/

Less than 10 years ago "tattoo regret" was close to 25%.  The proliferation of tattoos has taken off in the past 5 or 6 years and so it is too early to tell how much tattoo regret there will  be, something that seemed really cool when I was 22 seemed really stupid when I was 28.  Tattoo removal is still the most common for of cosmetic surgery.  Yes, more than implants, more than nose jobs.

And some people just make horrible decisions for placement of tattoos.  The heavily tattooed "experts" recommendations on tattoo are never on the neck, hands or face.  As one tattooed wrote on her blog, "Think of walking into a store and seeing a dress that you just fall in love with, it is colorful, it is bold, it is out there and you simply must have it.  Now imagine that you will wear that dress all day, every day for the rest of your life."  She recommends you think of a tattoo before getting one.  And people will talk, she mentions being introduce to someone who commented, "You must be Karen's tattooed friend."  And how hurt she was when a close friend didn't invite her to be a bridesmaid and she learned her friend had told others that in the sleeveless dress the tattoos would stand out in the wedding photos.

Apr 15 13 02:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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JoJo
Contest Queen
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Clearwater, Florida, US


Digital Czar wrote:
They've been the rage for quite a while now and last week on CBS in Chicago it was reported that

"CBS 2’s Mary Kay Kleist reports one in eight people with a tattoo now regrets having it, but there’s a right and a wrong way to erase it."


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/04/08/ … right-way/

1 out of 8 regret, that's 12.5%... about the same percentage as people that don't like broccoli.

It's far from the 1 out of 2 that regret getting married wink

Apr 15 13 03:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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GCobb Photography
Posts: 15,870
Southaven, Mississippi, US


One out of 4 I wish I had done different.  I don't think tattoos are on the way out at all.
Apr 15 13 03:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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Lora Weaver
Posts: 3,541
Alexandria, Virginia, US


JoJo wrote:
1 out of 8 regret, that's 12.5%... about the same percentage as people that don't like broccoli.

It's far from the 1 out of 2 that regret getting married wink

wink

Apr 15 13 04:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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JadeDRed
Posts: 5,186
London, England, United Kingdom


JoJo wrote:
1 out of 8 regret, that's 12.5%... about the same percentage as people that don't like broccoli.

It's far from the 1 out of 2 that regret getting married wink

big_smile

I doubt it, people like to act like tattoos are some recent fad but they've been around for aaaages, the popularity of tattoos has grown over time, likely if it was to wane it would go the same way, slowly.

I would also be interested to know how many people who regretted or had tattoos removed went on to have more. Whenever i've heard of it most of the time those people didn't regret getting a tattoo, they regretted getting that specific tattoo, which is not the same thing at all.

It is possible that an increase in tattoo removal will make the procedure easier/less expensive and then tattoos will become less of a big deal, making people more likely to get them.

Apr 15 13 04:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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GCobb Photography
Posts: 15,870
Southaven, Mississippi, US


Nico Simon Princely wrote:
I hope they are going away.

Why?  How do they affect you personally?

I only think some people get them for the wrong reasons.

Apr 15 13 04:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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Koryn
Posts: 34,634
Boston, Massachusetts, US


David Nelson Photograph wrote:
... something that seemed really cool when I was 22 seemed really stupid when I was 28....

I got the large tattoo on my right arm when I was 22. I turned 30 last October, and still like it a lot. *shrug* It needs to be touched up a little, but it certainly doesn't seem stupid to me. I drew the design, then redrew it, over and over again for 4 years, before I actually went and got the work done. I KNEW I wanted it.

The only thing that irks me about having tattoos is people always wanting to ask what they "mean." I have repeated the explanations of why I got what I got, so many times that it is literally a script now, a memorized explanation I run through verbatim every time someone asks. That occurs several times on a typical day, unless I never leave the house.

Apr 15 13 04:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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JJMiller
Posts: 377
Buffalo, New York, US


I doubt it, people like to act like tattoos are some recent fad but they've been around for aaaages, the popularity of tattoos has grown over time, likely if it was to wane it would go the same way, slowly.

The truth: http://theoatmeal.com/pl/minor_differences5/tattoos

Apr 15 13 04:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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ontherocks
Posts: 22,076
Salem, Oregon, US


a tattoo shop we drive by seems to have gone away which is surprising since there are tons of tattoos (and tattoo shops) around here.
Apr 15 13 04:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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DHayes Photography
Posts: 4,764
Richmond, Virginia, US


There are about ten tattoo/piercing shops in downtown Richmond in the vicinity of Virginia Commonwealth University and three in the yuppie-oriented Carytown area which is full of trendy boutiques and restaurants.  The fad is not slowing down here with new shops opening almost every month or so.  Interestingly enough, this morning I saw a flyer for a laser tattoo removal shop that just opened.  Claims to be cheaper than going to a plastic surgeon for the same service.
Apr 15 13 05:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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Andy G 323
Posts: 1,216
Bradford, England, United Kingdom


They still seem to be very popular in my part of the world.
Apr 15 13 05:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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Melanie J Utz
Posts: 10
Denver, Colorado, US


GCobb Photography wrote:

Why?  How do they affect you personally?

I only think some people get them for the wrong reasons.

I agree. I always grew up with the thought that tattoos should have meaning to them and have some thought into it. Not something you just put on your body for trend, and regret later in life.

Apr 16 13 11:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jules NYC
Posts: 14,564
New York, New York, US


I appreciate tats greatly despite the fact I do not have one myself.
Tats didn't lose their sub-culture despite the quick-stop tattoo shop is in your local mall.


Pfffffft
Apr 16 13 11:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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Looknsee Photography
Posts: 20,457
Portland, Oregon, US


The people who have or love tattoos will disagree.

The people who hate tattoos will agree.

The people who don't care won't care.

All these are subjective measures.

Call me when more tattoo parlors are closing than opening.
Apr 17 13 08:45 am  Link  Quote 
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ClassicLightPhoto
Posts: 4
BEALETON, Virginia, US


Am I really only one of a few that thinks this "emperor" has no clothes? (Please pardon the mixing of metaphors!)

   I hope tattoos are dying out ... at least for models. Getting a model with tattoos, is like getting a artist's canvas that already partially painted upon ... or like a model, that always must and can only wear orange, high-heel shoes. It is hard to believe that "clear skin," until very recently, was considered a criteria for becoming a model ... !!

   Also, I've not yet gotten a good answer to any possible copyright issues involved ... do tattoo "artists" provide their customers with a Release Form? As a photog, do I have a liability if they don't, by copying that "art"?

   Many models say something like "... but you can photoshop them out." I'm sorry, but my goal as a photog is NOT to spend MORE time at the computer, removing someone else's "art" from hundreds of my images. In my opinion, Photoshop was more intended to ADD the tattoos I want to the occasional image, and WHERE I want them (relatively easy), rather than try to seamlessly restore/invent human skin to replace tattoos (very hard to do WELL in artistic lighting).

   I'm glad to see the occasional MM model who is getting un-tattooed. Also, it may be a anecdotal, but look at the so-called "super models"; I believe few of them have tattoos (while in the business.) I do see more and more MM models listing "tattoo free" in their profiles and I think that is a very positive sign.

   So if you want to do human graffiti and limit yourself (presumably still) to "biker chick" genres, then proceed with the tats; but if you want to be a serious, multi-genre model, please leave the canvas clear and don't stick me with having to live with or work around someone else's "art". I've already lost one of my #1 models to "one too many tats" and nearly 80 other MM models, whom I would have contacted, have disqualified themselves from business and most of them because of tattoos. What a shame. Truly.
Apr 19 13 05:33 am  Link  Quote 
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P I X I E
Posts: 35,066
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


ClassicLightPhoto wrote:
Am I really only one of a few that thinks this "emperor" has no clothes? (Please pardon the mixing of metaphors!)

   I hope tattoos are dying out ... at least for models. Getting a model with tattoos, is like getting a artist's canvas that already partially painted upon ... or like a model, that always must and can only wear orange, high-heel shoes. It is hard to believe that "clear skin," until very recently, was considered a criteria for becoming a model ... !!

   Also, I've not yet gotten a good answer to any possible copyright issues involved ... do tattoo "artists" provide their customers with a Release Form? As a photog, do I have a liability if they don't, by copying that "art"?

   Many models say something like "... but you can photoshop them out." I'm sorry, but my goal as a photog is NOT to spend MORE time at the computer, removing someone else's "art" from hundreds of my images. In my opinion, Photoshop was more intended to ADD the tattoos I want to the occasional image, and WHERE I want them (relatively easy), rather than try to seamlessly restore/invent human skin to replace tattoos (very hard to do WELL in artistic lighting).

   I'm glad to see the occasional MM model who is getting un-tattooed. Also, it may be a anecdotal, but look at the so-called "super models"; I believe few of them have tattoos (while in the business.) I do see more and more MM models listing "tattoo free" in their profiles and I think that is a very positive sign.

   So if you want to do human graffiti and limit yourself (presumably still) to "biker chick" genres, then proceed with the tats; but if you want to be a serious, multi-genre model, please leave the canvas clear and don't stick me with having to live with or work around someone else's "art". I've already lost one of my #1 models to "one too many tats" and nearly 80 other MM models, whom I would have contacted, have disqualified themselves from business and most of them because of tattoos. What a shame. Truly.

I have 5 tattoos. 5. I don't shoot biker chick stuff. lol. I'm rather versatile as a model. I find people who wanna shoot me still despite all my ink.

The stereotypes are ridiculous...

Apr 19 13 05:39 am  Link  Quote 
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Jules NYC
Posts: 14,564
New York, New York, US


ClassicLightPhoto wrote:
Am I really only one of a few that thinks this "emperor" has no clothes? (Please pardon the mixing of metaphors!)

   I hope tattoos are dying out ... at least for models. Getting a model with tattoos, is like getting a artist's canvas that already partially painted upon ... or like a model, that always must and can only wear orange, high-heel shoes. It is hard to believe that "clear skin," until very recently, was considered a criteria for becoming a model ... !!

   Also, I've not yet gotten a good answer to any possible copyright issues involved ... do tattoo "artists" provide their customers with a Release Form? As a photog, do I have a liability if they don't, by copying that "art"?

   Many models say something like "... but you can photoshop them out." I'm sorry, but my goal as a photog is NOT to spend MORE time at the computer, removing someone else's "art" from hundreds of my images. In my opinion, Photoshop was more intended to ADD the tattoos I want to the occasional image, and WHERE I want them (relatively easy), rather than try to seamlessly restore/invent human skin to replace tattoos (very hard to do WELL in artistic lighting).

   I'm glad to see the occasional MM model who is getting un-tattooed. Also, it may be a anecdotal, but look at the so-called "super models"; I believe few of them have tattoos (while in the business.) I do see more and more MM models listing "tattoo free" in their profiles and I think that is a very positive sign.

   So if you want to do human graffiti and limit yourself (presumably still) to "biker chick" genres, then proceed with the tats; but if you want to be a serious, multi-genre model, please leave the canvas clear and don't stick me with having to live with or work around someone else's "art". I've already lost one of my #1 models to "one too many tats" and nearly 80 other MM models, whom I would have contacted, have disqualified themselves from business and most of them because of tattoos. What a shame. Truly.

I just shot for a bike shop and will be doing a second and guess what?
Tattoo free.

See, the biker and tattoo cultures cross over and sometimes are as one, but no need to front one. That's like saying you're not punk without a Mohawk.

Apr 19 13 06:02 am  Link  Quote 
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Justin
Posts: 21,399
Fort Collins, Colorado, US


I don't care for tattoos, more from a logic standpoint, but it's not my call. If anything, I see their popularity still going strong. From the fitness club, it seems to me that they're ever more popular with the white-collar crowd, too. (I'm talking about for men. They kicked me out of the women's locker room, despite my protestations that it was a scientific survey.)
Apr 19 13 06:30 am  Link  Quote 
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salvatori.
Posts: 3,339
State College, Pennsylvania, US


Digital Czar wrote:
They've been the rage for quite a while now and last week on CBS in Chicago it was reported that

"CBS 2’s Mary Kay Kleist reports one in eight people with a tattoo now regrets having it, but there’s a right and a wrong way to erase it."


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/04/08/ … right-way/

So you cite an article with an agenda... wow. At least you asked the question instead of stating it as fact (no sarcasm there, actually).

I have two friends who own a tattoo shop in State College. They are crazy busy and Tim is booked for guest work in other parlors across the country for the next 18 months.

smile

Apr 19 13 06:35 am  Link  Quote 
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Jules NYC
Posts: 14,564
New York, New York, US


Justin wrote:
I don't care for tattoos, more from a logic standpoint, but it's not my call. If anything, I see their popularity still going strong. From the fitness club, it seems to me that they're ever more popular with the white-collar crowd, too. (I'm talking about for men. They kicked me out of the women's locker room, despite my protestations that it was a scientific survey.)

Scientific survey

lol

Apr 19 13 06:35 am  Link  Quote 
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salvatori.
Posts: 3,339
State College, Pennsylvania, US


JoJo wrote:

1 out of 8 regret, that's 12.5%... about the same percentage as people that don't like broccoli.

It's far from the 1 out of 2 that regret getting married wink

Well, for one, I am in the group that thinks that broccoli sucks.

And I am sure that some will say that marriage regret isn't the same as tattoo regret; as the damage isn't permanent.

As the product of two divorces, I can assure you... it is...

tongue

Apr 19 13 06:37 am  Link  Quote 
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Ed Woodson Photography
Posts: 2,644
Savannah, Georgia, US


If Tattoo's are dying and going out of vogue....   Someone forgot to give my step-Daughter a copy of the Memo.
Apr 19 13 06:55 am  Link  Quote 
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Anna Adrielle
Posts: 18,760
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium


ClassicLightPhoto wrote:
Am I really only one of a few that thinks this "emperor" has no clothes? (Please pardon the mixing of metaphors!)

   I hope tattoos are dying out ... at least for models. Getting a model with tattoos, is like getting a artist's canvas that already partially painted upon ... or like a model, that always must and can only wear orange, high-heel shoes. It is hard to believe that "clear skin," until very recently, was considered a criteria for becoming a model ... !!

   Also, I've not yet gotten a good answer to any possible copyright issues involved ... do tattoo "artists" provide their customers with a Release Form? As a photog, do I have a liability if they don't, by copying that "art"?

   Many models say something like "... but you can photoshop them out." I'm sorry, but my goal as a photog is NOT to spend MORE time at the computer, removing someone else's "art" from hundreds of my images. In my opinion, Photoshop was more intended to ADD the tattoos I want to the occasional image, and WHERE I want them (relatively easy), rather than try to seamlessly restore/invent human skin to replace tattoos (very hard to do WELL in artistic lighting).

   I'm glad to see the occasional MM model who is getting un-tattooed. Also, it may be a anecdotal, but look at the so-called "super models"; I believe few of them have tattoos (while in the business.) I do see more and more MM models listing "tattoo free" in their profiles and I think that is a very positive sign.

   So if you want to do human graffiti and limit yourself (presumably still) to "biker chick" genres, then proceed with the tats; but if you want to be a serious, multi-genre model, please leave the canvas clear and don't stick me with having to live with or work around someone else's "art". I've already lost one of my #1 models to "one too many tats" and nearly 80 other MM models, whom I would have contacted, have disqualified themselves from business and most of them because of tattoos. What a shame. Truly.

you edit hundreds of images from each shoot? wow!

Apr 19 13 06:56 am  Link  Quote 
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SME
Posts: 20,702
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US


Every single person I know who is getting tattoos lasered is doing so to make room for fresh artwork.  So while they're technically part of the "regret" percentage, it's not in the way that it's often presented - it's not tattooing in general that is regretted, it's just one particular design or flawed execution.

Like that hair cut it took me five years to grow out.  big_smile

(I know!  My experience is not at all objective or all-encompassing!)  smile
Apr 19 13 08:08 am  Link  Quote 
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Kyle T Edwards
Posts: 410
St Catharines, Ontario, Canada


I hope tattoos are going out of style, so that we can stop having all of these threads about tattoos, most of which are started by people who don't have tattoos in the first place.  I swear, you people without tattoos obsess over it more than those of us who do have them.

Here's a simple summary of pretty much every tattoo thread on this site thus far:

> Yes, tattoo shops close location.  Some move, some go out of business.  All businesses do this.  I saw a closed photography storefront last weekend; it doesn't mean photography's dying.

> Yes, some people get tattoos they regret.  Many others, like Koryn and myself, do spend extensive time designing, planning and deciding on a tattoo before we ever get it done.  It's going to be with me for life, so I can wait another year or two.

> tattoo removal hurts.  From what I've heard, it hurts like hell.  Well, no shit; of course it hurts.  It's a frickin' laser!  You zap someone with a laser with the intent to burn something out from under their skin and what do you think the resulting feeling is going to be?  It ain't swimming in the ocean!

> Yes, it limits employment, both in modeling and elsewhere.  People who get tattoos know this.  I assure you, though, memorializing my late grandmother means a hell of a lot more to me than that $150 you're paying me to stand in front of your camera for a few hours.  Believe it or not, some things are more important than money.

> We realize that some of you don't like tattoos.  You only mention it every chance you get.  You call it a poor life choice or whatever.  All that proves is that you don't know Jack about us, and that you're generally a self-righteous prick, but we're usually too polite to say anything.  Well, I'm saying it.  You're a self-righteous prick.  The next time you want to feel holier than the rest of us, feel free to nail yourself up.  I'll loan you my hammer.

If you don't want a model with tattoos in a shoot, then don't hire one.  It's just that simple.  Note in your casting call that you don't want any visible tattoos.  Easy 'nuff?


Now, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER TATTOO QUESTION BEFORE WE GET THIS SITE TO PERMANENTLY BAN ALL TATTOO THREADS, NOW'S THE FUCKING TIME.



(And to think, I'm Canadian.  This is the polite version!)
Apr 19 13 08:33 am  Link  Quote 
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Axana
Posts: 126
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada


Conformity conformity conformity conformity conformity, stereotype stereotype stereotype disagree disagree.....Same old shit. SMH
Apr 19 13 08:42 am  Link  Quote 
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ClassicLightPhoto
Posts: 4
BEALETON, Virginia, US


Anna Adrielle wrote:
you edit hundreds of images from each shoot? wow!

I WOULD if I shot models with significant tattoos! lol!! The goal, of course, is to get it right in the camera. Hence my point. If I want tattoos, I can add them; if I don't want them, it would be a pain to remove them from a typical shoot's results (100's of images). They are painful to remove WELL on computer ... but at least it doesn't take a laser! OUCH! smile

No offense to any, best wishes to all.

Apr 19 13 10:27 am  Link  Quote 
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What Fun Productions
Posts: 19,999
Phoenix, Arizona, US


People who get tattoos forget it's others (innocent bystanders) who have to look at their "art."
Apr 19 13 10:32 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticPhotography
Posts: 7,698
Buffalo, New York, US


However, I hope they continue to thrive because there only seems to be three businesses in the US that are rapidly expanding: Tattoo parlors, Nail joints, and over-prices coffee shops.

Meanwhile,I tell everyone I am being non-conformist by NOT getting a tattoo, biting my nails, and drinking Sanka.
Apr 19 13 10:35 am  Link  Quote 
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GPS Studio Services
Posts: 33,482
San Francisco, California, US


JadeDRed wrote:
I doubt it, people like to act like tattoos are some recent fad but they've been around for aaaages, the popularity of tattoos has grown over time, likely if it was to wane it would go the same way, slowly.

Of course it is a fad, just like bell bottoms were, mod clothes and the Beatles haircut.  Tattoos have been around for ages, but for the longest time, it was sailors, soldiers and bikers that had them.  You are right, slowly, over time, more and more chose to get them just as more people grew long hair.

Today we still have guys with long hair, but it really isn't the style.  It is accepted and common, but not the rage.  I do agree with you though, tattoos will fade slowly, but they will never go away.

I think the numbers are starting to decline, just as I think fewer young people gauge their ears.  What we forget is, when kids see that their parent had tattoos, they will want to do something else.  We got tattoos because our kids did (the young start trends), but their kids will want something else.

So, it is no doubt a fad.  It will no doubt slow down.  I don't believe it will go away though.  It is now acceptable for men and women of all ages to have them.  Just like we still have a lot of guys with long hair, we will have a lot of people who like tattoos.  The numbers will just decline but never completely fade away.

Apr 19 13 10:57 am  Link  Quote 
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salvatori.
Posts: 3,339
State College, Pennsylvania, US


What Fun Productions wrote:
People who get tattoos forget it's others (innocent bystanders) who have to look at their "art."

As a guy who has a few really nice custom tattoos, I am completely offended by your attitude.

Apr 19 13 10:59 am  Link  Quote 
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GPS Studio Services
Posts: 33,482
San Francisco, California, US


What Fun Productions wrote:
People who get tattoos forget it's others (innocent bystanders) who have to look at their "art."
salvatori. wrote:
As a guy who has a few really nice custom tattoos, I am completely offended by your attitude.

I've seen some really kewl tattoos.

Apr 19 13 11:00 am  Link  Quote 
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