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Retoucher
Marcus Christopher
Posts: 72
Vienna, Wien, Austria


A few years ago I posted this question in another forum, but didn't receive too many helpful answers. Still being interested in how other retouchers are handling this I would like to repeat the question here...

I would like to embed suitable XMP/IPTC tags in the images that I retouched. Basically, I would like to correctly name the photographer, identify myself as the retoucher and add some copyright text and usage restrictions.

How is everyone handling this? Is there a kind of "commonly accepted" industry standard? Are there any tags reserved for the retoucher?

Thanks in advance for your help, Marc
Apr 16 13 02:04 pm  Link  Quote 
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AJScalzitti
Posts: 12,285
Atlanta, Georgia, US


The common industry standard is the retoucher is never credited or really mentioned.  Clients like the illusion that no retouching is ever required and unfortunately its considered a dirty little secret by some .  Now if the photographer chooses to add EXIF data about the entire team I think its a cool idea.
Apr 16 13 02:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Marcus Christopher
Posts: 72
Vienna, Wien, Austria


Thanks, Anthony, for your reply.

I know, of course, that the fact that a photograph has been retouched, is often considered a "dirty little secret". I also do realize that the retoucher is almost never credited. But being credited is not what I am after...

Basically, what I'm trying to do, is leave a way to identify myself as a retoucher in cases where I have no control where the image ends up - without neglecting to also credit the photographer, the model, the make up artist etc.

Let's say, I send a finished work to a client, who then sends it to some agency, who then sends it to a designer, who then sends it to a proofing studio, who sends it... etc. If someone in that chain happens to like the image, they have no chance to trace it back to me.

I do know that that's not the way it's done. But isn't that the way it SHOULD be done?
May 06 13 07:47 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
The Invisible Touch
Posts: 707
Tarragona, Catalonia, Spain


marccee wrote:
Thanks, Anthony, for your reply.

I know, of course, that the fact that a photograph has been retouched, is often considered a "dirty little secret". I also do realize that the retoucher is almost never credited. But being credited is not what I am after...

Basically, what I'm trying to do, is leave a way to identify myself as a retoucher in cases where I have no control where the image ends up - without neglecting to also credit the photographer, the model, the make up artist etc.

Let's say, I send a finished work to a client, who then sends it to some agency, who then sends it to a designer, who then sends it to a proofing studio, who sends it... etc. If someone in that chain happens to like the image, they have no chance to trace it back to me.

I do know that that's not the way it's done. But isn't that the way it SHOULD be done?

In my opinion, the work you display in your port/website, it should be enough to represent you, and should not be a need of leaving a trace with your name on it.

Also, not sure if the photographer would be very happy about you tampering his images that way... at the end of the day, he owns the copyright and you either get paid for the job or normally/sometimes get credit for it... what else do you need?? :-)

May 06 13 08:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Leonard Gee Photography
Posts: 16,081
Sacramento, California, US


marccee wrote:
I do know that that's not the way it's done. But isn't that the way it SHOULD be done?

What about the art director, stylist, MUA, assistant, digital engineer or model? Should they be allowed to add IPCT data? We could add a credit layer like the movies, then the food service, janitors and window washer, camera manufacture can be included.

Actually, if the work is good enough, people ask. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your viewpoint, retouch credits are not part of the norm even for editorial credits - where the stylist, MUA and designer get theirs.

Don't think it is a "dirty secret", just credit is not considered as normal.

May 06 13 09:14 am  Link  Quote 
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