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Photographer
Personality Imaging
Posts: 1,559
Hoover, Alabama, US


Just curious.  I wonder what percentage of new female models never post any pictures after posting the initial group of pictures they start with.  I suspect it is especially high with the - paid assignments only -  no experience - no nudes - crowd.
Jul 04 13 05:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DLH Photo
Posts: 301
Seattle, Washington, US


Personality Imaging wrote:
Just curious.  I wonder what percentage of new female models never post any pictures after posting the initial group of pictures they start with.  I suspect it is especially high with the - paid assignments only -  no experience - no nudes - crowd.

If you were a student of mine I would say that you are on your way to coming up with a research question that you can use for a research study. tongue

Jul 04 13 05:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Okay.
Jul 04 13 05:41 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
salvatori.
Posts: 3,682
State College, Pennsylvania, US


I am also amazed at the number of photographers who say they have been shooting for 30 years and done all sorts of fancy shit and have a few landscape pics in their MM portfolio.
Jul 04 13 05:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
K E E L I N G
Posts: 39,773
Peoria, Illinois, US


Personality Imaging wrote:
Just curious.  I wonder what percentage of new female models never post any pictures after posting the initial group of pictures they start with.  I suspect it is especially high with the - paid assignments only -  no experience - no nudes - crowd.

I'd say it's directly proportional to the amount of legitimate offers they receive.

Jul 04 13 06:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Brianne L
Posts: 275
OTTSVILLE, Pennsylvania, US


I imagine a good number of people (models or photographers...or anything else) sign up here, use it for a few days, but then never come back again. I guess some people just never figure out how to use the site or they end up forgetting about it.
I don't have any pictures up from when I first signed up for MM (but back then I wasn't that serious about pursuing modeling and I barely knew how to use the site so all of my pictures were just "selfies". I didn't even start using it again until maybe September of last year when I started figuring out what I wanted to do. I've had this profile since 2011).
But I have come across people who still use this site occasionally yet still only have pictures up from 2 years ago...one of them being someone I was supposed to work with, yet never confirmed with our shoot date with me and nothing was said the day that it was supposed to happen. Oh well.
Jul 04 13 06:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Good Egg Productions
Posts: 15,070
Orlando, Florida, US


16.3%
Jul 04 13 06:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 26,741
Dearborn, Michigan, US


I have one photo in my portfolio from 1970.  It's very popular.   smile
Jul 04 13 07:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GER Photography
Posts: 7,494
Imperial, California, US


The number of ports here with no activity for months or even years is staggering.
Jul 04 13 07:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Miss Photog
Posts: 287
VALLEY VILLAGE, California, US


salvatori. wrote:
I am also amazed at the number of photographers who say they have been shooting for 30 years and done all sorts of fancy shit and have a few landscape pics in their MM portfolio.

+1
and those that say they've been a professional photographer for 20+ years and have terrible GWC photos in their port that are years old!

Don't know about the percentage of models who do that, but I update my modeling photos whenever I get new ones back that I love. A number of paid shoots I won't receive any photos or I do not deem the photos to be port worthy. But I still try to update pretty regularly.

Jul 04 13 08:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Dekilah
Posts: 4,859
Detroit, Michigan, US


Modeling is really just like any other hobby: some people try it for a bit with a lot of interest, but then find it is not for them or they lose interest, some start out slow and develop a love, and really tons of other scenario. But I think the important thing to remember is that while it may be a job of varying degrees for some of us, for a lot of others it is "just a hobby." And there really is nothing wrong with that ^_^
Jul 04 13 08:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,427
Salinas, California, US


Personality Imaging wrote:
Just curious.

Curiosity kills cats.

Some people set up portfolios and just never come back.  I don't understand how it would benefit you to get any answers to your question.  Perhaps you are trolling?  Or maybe you can come up with a better question than that?

Jul 04 13 09:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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Catnapping
Posts: 3,771
Brooklyn, New York, US


not everyone has the same goals.

some are satisfied to do one shoot then move on with their life.
Jul 04 13 09:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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MC Seoul Photography
Posts: 388
Seoul, Seoul, Korea (South)


Catnapping wrote:
not everyone has the same goals.

some are satisfied to do one shoot then move on with their life.

Then why sign up for a site like this?

Jul 05 13 01:07 am  Link  Quote 
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Drew Smith Photography
Posts: 5,209
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom


MC Seoul Photography wrote:

Then why sign up for a site like this?

Because life should be about exploration, experimentation and discovery of oneself.

Maybe they discovered, having explored and experimented on MM, that this wasn't for them.

I fail to understand what harm they are doing anybody.

Jul 05 13 03:04 am  Link  Quote 
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Kent Art Photography
Posts: 2,649
Ashford, England, United Kingdom


I think we should give some thought to why they have disappeared.

Perhaps MM isn't a particularly friendly place for newbies?

Maybe they got fed up with being pestered to shoot nudes?
Jul 05 13 03:22 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Photo Visions
Posts: 1,034
Cape Coral, Florida, US


Maybe they get tired of all the phoney offers, scams and BS.
Jul 05 13 03:39 am  Link  Quote 
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zaxpix
Posts: 1,988
New Brunswick, New Jersey, US


Catnapping wrote:
not everyone has the same goals.

some are satisfied to do one shoot then move on with their life.

Pretty much. ( If they even do a first shoot.)

Z.

Jul 05 13 03:48 am  Link  Quote 
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Koryn
Posts: 35,647
Asheville, North Carolina, US


Personality Imaging wrote:
Just curious.  I wonder what percentage of new female models never post any pictures after posting the initial group of pictures they start with.  I suspect it is especially high with the - paid assignments only -  no experience - no nudes - crowd.

Some models can post ten mediocre shots, start getting paid work depending on where they are located, then have little need to update their portfolios, until their look changes.

I found that when my portfolio stayed the same for more than a couple months, people lost interest and paid shoot offers started to slow down. For some people, always having new work is a good way to keep potential clients interested in your work.

For others, not so much. They just have something people will pay for regardless. Different strokes for different folks.

Jul 05 13 06:00 am  Link  Quote 
Model
sasweets
Posts: 404
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada


Personality Imaging wrote:
Just curious.  I wonder what percentage of new female models never post any pictures after posting the initial group of pictures they start with.  I suspect it is especially high with the - paid assignments only -  no experience - no nudes - crowd.

I have to always update my portfolio because I look different in each one. Based on the makeup, and how my hair is styled. I just don't have one of those faces that photograph the same each time or I wouldn't update it as much.

I don't know why people keep pushing the nudes thing though. Some people just don't want to do that. Either because of how they were brought up, not comfortable doing that, or/and because some models are clueless to the fact that some photographers sell those photos online. And when they find out, it's just scary to see there reaction.

Edit: Not talking about artistic nudes. Talking about the sexual nudes where it looks like it's bordering on porn.

Jul 05 13 06:52 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Lynn Elizabeth
Posts: 1,336
Coral Springs, Florida, US


salvatori. wrote:
I am also amazed at the number of photographers who say they have been shooting for 30 years and done all sorts of fancy shit and have a few landscape pics in their MM portfolio.

agreed!

Jul 05 13 07:02 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
HOTTIE SHOTS
Posts: 5,946
Memphis, Tennessee, US


It has been my experience that MM models stay active on the site from 6-18 months.  Then they move on to other things to occupy their time. 

I also think most girls put up their modeling profile and sit back and wait to be "discovered".  When they see that most offers are non paying or nude if it does pay, and they suddenly realize that they will have to put lots of time and effort and work into getting the modeling gigs they want, they just lose interest.
Jul 05 13 07:22 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SitronStudio
Posts: 1,056
Venice, Florida, US


I think they have this romantic vision that they will become instantly famous after one shoot and Victoria's Secret or Calvin Klein will be calling raving over their amazing look (even though they aren't anywhere near agency stats). When that doesn't happen, they disappear (but I'm sure still refer to themselves as "models").
Jul 05 13 07:24 am  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


MC Seoul Photography wrote:

Then why sign up for a site like this?

Gee, really? They tried it out but decided it wasn't for them, who knows. If you get one, just move on to the next. Really not rocket science...

Jul 05 13 07:26 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
G Images
Posts: 253
Lexington, Kentucky, US


Patrick Walberg wrote:

Curiosity kills cats.

Some people set up portfolios and just never come back.  I don't understand how it would benefit you to get any answers to your question.  Perhaps you are trolling?  Or maybe you can come up with a better question than that?

It is a perfectly legitimate question and to suggest the OP is trolling is insulting. The apparent suggestion that knowledge for its own sake has no value is also absurd.

Jul 05 13 09:23 am  Link  Quote 
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Herman Surkis
Posts: 8,137
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada


Dekilah wrote:
Modeling is really just like any other hobby: some people try it for a bit with a lot of interest, but then find it is not for them or they lose interest, some start out slow and develop a love, and really tons of other scenario. But I think the important thing to remember is that while it may be a job of varying degrees for some of us, for a lot of others it is "just a hobby." And there really is nothing wrong with that ^_^

I would say that most of the people on MM are hobbyists. So they are active for awhile, kick back, then become active again and so forth. But like golfers, some are at it all the time. I know a hobbyist photographer who shoots models weekly, if not twice a week. Myself, maybe 6 times a year.

And as Dekilah said, some dip their toe in and decide it is not for them.

Jul 05 13 10:09 am  Link  Quote 
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rp_photo
Posts: 42,488
Houston, Texas, US


Herman Surkis wrote:
But like golfers, some are at it all the time. I know a hobbyist photographer who shoots models weekly, if not twice a week.

This would be me.

Jul 05 13 10:35 am  Link  Quote 
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Rob Photosby
Posts: 2,230
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia


Kent Art Photography wrote:
I think we should give some thought to why they have disappeared.

Perhaps MM isn't a particularly friendly place for newbies?

Maybe they got fed up with being pestered to shoot nudes?

I think it is more likely that they get disappointed at not getting showered with buckets of money and offers of the cover of Vogue, just for gracing MM with their presence.

Jul 07 13 05:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Ruthie Rose
Posts: 7
Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom


As an *aspiring* myself - newbie through and through - I can tell you that so far I've discovered there are so many different ways to even BEGIN in an approach to modelling that it isn't really fair to assume everyone should be using sites like this the same way. Some people will use the site soley as an e-portfolio to direct people to, some will come on for the social aspect of the forums, some will focus on direct networking and use the browse function alot. Not all of these activities require regular maintenance. Me, I'm hoping MM can help me make a steady start to build up a portfolio and work from there. If I get paid in the end, good for me I'm *pro,* and if I don't then I'm having alot of fun. Not contributing constantly to MM doesn't mean people aren't willing to work hard to be a model, perhaps they're actually just out there... working hard at becoming a model.
Just my pennys' worth, but as I say my opinion is coming from the bottom of the heap ;-)
Ru x
Jul 10 13 11:29 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Ruthie Rose
Posts: 7
Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom


natural beauties of qld wrote:
I think it is more likely that they get disappointed at not getting showered with buckets of money and offers of the cover of Vogue, just for gracing MM with their presence.

Although I think this may also have alot to do with some that just Disappear and Never Return... Personally I'm enjoying Modelling BECAUSE of the challenges it can present; I love a challenge. I'm sure many hoping to be the next Dean Johnson ASAP with no more effort than occasionally donning designer clothes will find themselves disillusioned and move on to an easier venture!

Jul 10 13 11:31 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,297
Upland, California, US


salvatori. wrote:
I am also amazed at the number of photographers who say they have been shooting for 30 years and done all sorts of fancy shit and have a few landscape pics in their MM portfolio.

True... seen quite a few of those here also... small snapshot portfolios with nothing visually special to say for themselves after all those years... roll

Jul 10 13 01:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Javier_Mejia
Posts: 383
Los Angeles, California, US


Good Egg Productions wrote:
16.3%

Correction: 16.4%

Jul 10 13 06:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Cree Synster
Posts: 239
Milledgeville, Georgia, US


Paying for an account isn't exactly in the cards as of now in for my MM account. I have some photos that are NEVER coming down from this account, but at the same time, I occasionally change up the more recent photos because I'm not as satisfied with them. Most of my modeling pics are on my facebook. Working on uploading a deviantart account with my best photos from each shoot.
Jul 10 13 06:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
name removed3
Posts: 264
Boston, Massachusetts, US


MC Seoul Photography wrote:

Then why sign up for a site like this?

its free

Jul 10 13 09:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
John Jebbia
Posts: 27,608
Phoenix, Arizona, US


salvatori. wrote:
I am also amazed at the number of photographers who say they have been shooting for 30 years and done all sorts of fancy shit and have a few landscape pics in their MM portfolio.

It "AMAZES" you that men lie to get some play?

Jul 10 13 09:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
R80
Posts: 2,567
Marceline, Missouri, US


Magazines have turned to short articles due to the attention span of today's people, as have other industries. 

I think it's the same here.  No "instant success" and they're out of here - off to something else that catches their fleeting fancy.  Few today want to put much effort into anything. You can easily find the exceptions to the rule.  They stand out.
Jul 10 13 10:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
JoJo
Contest Queen
Posts: 24,228
Clearwater, Florida, US


Personality Imaging wrote:
Just curious.  I wonder what percentage of new female models never post any pictures after posting the initial group of pictures they start with.  I suspect it is especially high with the - paid assignments only -  no experience - no nudes - crowd.

Probably proportionate to the number of "paid assignments only -  no experience" photographers that show up thinking they will be in "boobie heaven".

Jul 10 13 10:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
I M N Photography
Posts: 2,282
New York, New York, US


Good Egg Productions wrote:
16.3%

Seriously??
I will check my numbers again. My calculations are off by 2.7%.

Jul 10 13 10:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
I M N Photography
Posts: 2,282
New York, New York, US


Jerry Nemeth wrote:
I have one photo in my portfolio from 1970.  It's very popular.   smile

It's a nice shot, Jerry.

Jul 10 13 10:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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