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Jul 06 13 07:18 pm Link To me and this is my "opinion" prices will always vary for most retouchers depending on what/how much there is to do.. It's sometimes a over priced and over valued industry....not that people are not worth the time that they charge because they very may well be...but I think that prices should be reasonable for the effort and time someone puts into the work they are doing for you. I don't believe in gouging people...but being fair, I know what my time is worth and it's not 50 dollars an image...not to say the quality is lacking either for something that might be 10 dollars an image...could be/ most often is the same quality just depends on the person using the pen I suppose... my opinion Jul 06 13 07:26 pm Link Yeah. I would figure as much, but some people really demand a pretty penny. There might be the same graphics person asking for $50 an image, but if I post a casting call or whatever for a graphics person and offer a much lower amount they could just as likely as anyone else answer the ad and make a special exception because nobody else wants to pay $50 either. lol. Jul 06 13 09:31 pm Link That's true, I know for me I charge from 8-14 dollars and image and that's not because I think I'm bad at what I do but because I think that's what is fair for you and for me Jul 06 13 10:03 pm Link Mad Hatter Imagery wrote: good luck with that. Jul 07 13 02:20 am Link DevKevin wrote: I don't want to have to eat cold baked beans out of a tin though. I presume you can rattle 4 of those off an hour, or do you like cold baked beans? Jul 07 13 04:00 am Link Mike Needham Retouching wrote: I think it also depends on the volume of work that you produce within a week/month.. and come on who doesn't like cold baked beans! Jul 07 13 07:47 am Link Some people will look at a retoucher's before & after images, then look at their rate, and decide whether or not to hire them. Other people will have an image, or images, they want worked on, have a budget in mind, then find a retoucher or graphic artist that will accept that budget. Both approaches are completely wrong. The OP needs to follow this formula: Tr - K /5.3 = GWD This is the general rule, and a general-ism, that will solve all your problems. Jul 07 13 09:04 am Link Koray wrote: +1. Jul 07 13 09:51 am Link Evan Hiltunen wrote: Explain what this formula means? What is Tr and K and GWD? Jul 07 13 10:13 am Link DevKevin wrote: I don't think many people wish for anyone to have to live on a Romin Noodle budget, but even if someone charged only $10 per image and did 4 images in an hour that is $40/hr. In the long run that can easily become more than I make, and a graphics person can be working independantly in their basement and not really answer to any boss in the mean time and have any number of clients without anyone knowing what their true volume of business is as well as having employment elsewhere as well. So it seems like it can be a very flexible and decently lucrative occupation. Jul 07 13 10:16 am Link They are not really making $40 per hour if they do 4 in an hour, charging ten dollars per image. First they have to discuss what needs to be done. They have to receive the images. Download them. Depending on their connection--well, I just downloaded one of my large files and it took about five minutes. Even if the connection is fast, that time factors into the actual amount. Then sending the images--. Collecting money--that's time. In addition, the retoucher may not have a full week of retouching. They may only pick up 80 images. Which, if it were their only source of income would make it a rough week. A good retoucher might be able to eat if they got $15-20 per image and they got enough work at that price. Of course, it depends on what you want done. In about six months I may be ready to offer really good retouching. I don't think I could pull if off for ten dollars an image. And by that I mean you use Photoshop or programs that offer that kind of quality. Jul 07 13 10:33 am Link Mad Hatter Imagery wrote: It all depends. Jul 07 13 10:36 am Link Melania Morabito wrote: Is that $50 in Italian funds? lol. I'm not refering for the large part to a complete overhaul. Mostly cleaning an image up without warping it and making it look unnatural. Keeping it look natural and not surreal is my main point of focus. If it is a full blown art project with many layers and filters etc than I would expect to pay more yes. Jul 07 13 11:47 pm Link Mad Hatter Imagery wrote: no, is in dollars...quite a misery in euro, just 35. Jul 08 13 01:24 am Link DevKevin wrote: Mike Needham Retouching wrote: There are some operations in India and China charge a lot less than that. Jul 08 13 01:38 am Link Chuckarelei wrote: It's not a fair comparison, as well you know the cost of living across the world varies. I responded to a remark from someone quoting dollars and living in the USA. Jul 08 13 02:37 am Link my personal belief as a U.K. Freelance graphic designer/motion designer... IT depends on the work, the way I charge is via a consultation. You speak to the client find out what is needed to be done and charge by severity and time it will take to complete tasks, Once your name is a household name and your known for 'your unique style' you have a USP (Unique Selling Point) that people come to you for. So to clarify. My method... 1. Speak to the client. 2. Find out what they want doing set it in stone via email/paper/smoke signals... 3. Then i work out how easy it is for me to complete it in the shortest amount of time possible. (time is money) 4. Send a low res (watermarked) version for the clients approval. 5. Payment transfer. 6. File transfer. I say I averagely charge between £2.50 - £20.00 per image depending on if it needs a quick retouch/colour alteration or a complete haul or even a restoration of an old image (they take time and patience) Where as a BATCH ORDER can say 10 images no matter what severity of the image £100 normally takes 2 days max for me (to complete at a high level) say you do them 10 images in 1 day thats £100 P/d say you get 5 of them every week thats £500 a week say you continue to grow your business at a cheap revenue... thats £2000.00 a MONTH! thats more than easy to live off for a starting out freelance. I really hope this helps you understand how freelance artists work. BUT MAKE SURE you know what they can do to one of your images before you agree to a bulk. Most of the time i give a freebee to show them my skills on an image they shot. Anthony. Jul 08 13 02:57 am Link Anthony John Turner wrote: By your example, let's take the worst case scenario of two days for ten images. That is actually now £50 a day, let's say over a working week of six days, that's £350 pre tax. You are also assuming a volume of work steadily flowing in. Jul 08 13 05:48 am Link Mad Hatter Imagery wrote: You may try to contact someone from India or China and if they will charge you with local rate you will probably get low rate. Jul 08 13 11:49 am Link It really depends on if you just need retouching or photo manipulation. Photo Manipulation takes a lot longer and I don't think asking for $50 and above is out of the question. Jul 22 13 06:50 pm Link Mad Hatter Imagery wrote: Candidly Speaking.. U CAN'T Jul 22 13 08:08 pm Link i usually quote my regular rate for every job. For clients that I know have a smaller budget I'll let them know this rate is negotiable and if they have set budget I'd be happy to consider it. Once I know exactly what the job is (how many photos, the level of retouching they expect and what deadline they have) then most of the time the client and I can find a happy medium. Artists who are working a lot (like models who work a lot) don't need to take low budget jobs so they might seem a bit pricey. But finding hi end jobs is still difficult. The recession may have ended for some but companies are still tight about money. I'm sure you can find a quality artist or retoucher that can help you out. Request a portfolio review with before and after shots and ask for a resume (yes a good artist will be happy to show his resume/client list). Make sure they give you a detailed quote in writing so there are no surprises when they turn in the job. Also trades are becoming more of an option for artists. It never hurts to ask. Jul 22 13 08:53 pm Link Digitized Life wrote: Why would I do cheaper work below my regular quality? What do I get for it? Jul 23 13 08:10 am Link You should separate retouch from making photo manipulation. If you do that, then price 50$ or above is not that much... Honestly it's really low. I made some photo manipulations in the past for 40 Euros per image which took me 6-11 hours to do so 4 Euro per hour is not a great deal. Also here is an example - I made these two works as a personal projects: http://lukaszliszko.com/?page_id=76 http://lukaszliszko.com/?page_id=95 First took 15-20 hours to make it. Second one about 30-40 hours. People write to me to do something similar for them but I can't do that for 10$... If you write to digital artist/retoucher you should ask yourself if you would like to work for 2$ per hours as you propose. Ps. I didn't want to say that retouching should be cheaper but an avarage retouch takes less time to do then photo manipulation. That was my point. Also I know that there are many great retouchers with amazing skills who should rate 50$, 100$ or more per image Jul 23 13 04:00 pm Link Mad Hatter Imagery wrote: I've been in the marketing business for decades. I can get people to try someone's business, but there usually aren't enough new prospects to sustain a one-time-use business model. In other words, most likely they are busy because they are good and much of their busy-ness is repeat clients. Mad Hatter Imagery wrote: I disagree, see above. If wishes were horses beggars would ride. Mad Hatter Imagery wrote: Like any other product or service, shop around. Jul 23 13 04:51 pm Link I retouch because I love to do it. Being as this is not my only source of income, I keep my prices low. Retouching funds my advertising for my photography. I charge $5.00 an image for basic retouching. I give discounts to regular, repeat clients. I couldn't imagine paying $20-$50 an image for basic retouching, but maybe I'm just cheap. Most of us on here are not rich, we're just regular Joe's doing this for fun or to make ends meet. Jul 23 13 05:15 pm Link I've charged $1000 for a cover, but that's the only image I've retouched all year. Although I'm forced to eat ramen because of my business decisions, the good news is I still have time to come to MM and lurk... Jul 23 13 07:17 pm Link btdsgn wrote: Loreal pays 1500 for KI Jul 24 13 08:43 am Link Natalia_Taffarel wrote: I could probably afford a drink with my meals if I could charge that much... I'm destined to be poor. Jul 25 13 03:02 am Link Instead of per image, work out your per hour cost and figure out how long it will take you to do the work they want. If someone wants a simple beauty retouch, it might be a quick job. Maybe an hour. If someone wants compositing, with a new background + effects +etc then it might be a multiple hour job, but each one is still one image. Say to yourself, my work is worth $20/hour, so it's a 3 hour job to do what they want for image X, so tell them they need to pay $60. Jul 25 13 04:19 am Link |