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Photographer
Antediluvian Design
Posts: 1,137
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US


I solicited services TFP for anyone male or female who wanted to a "cause shoot". That being a shoot that protests some random societal injustice. Like PETA campaigns if you will. This person replied in a full blown harangue about trying to get folks to work for free. He even posted my post telling the CL world how much of an asshole I am. Has this ever happened to any of you?

The irony is I became his cause.

Almost as embarrassing as the time I got thrown out of Tassajara.
Jul 09 13 09:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Snuff Elles
Posts: 593
ADGER, Alabama, US


Sounds like he woke up on the wrong side of the bed wink
Jul 09 13 09:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ontherocks
Posts: 22,215
Salem, Oregon, US


half the posts on CL are people flaming other people about their original posts. get the popcorn.
Jul 10 13 09:00 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Marin Photography NYC
Posts: 6,790
New York, New York, US


Imagine how many soup kitchens would close with that kind of mentality.
Jul 10 13 09:05 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Shannon Hardy
Posts: 26
Oakville, Ontario, Canada


the troll obviously knows nothing about modeling OR causes. The photos would be just as useful to the model or causee. (yes I know its not a word.) If a person is into a cause deep enough to campaign it, photos like that would be very useful imagery to express the emotion behind what makes it their cause. Like when I see people with cancer ribbons. I know that they are either a very compassionate individual, or they lost someone/know someone who's battling it. It's a deep concept!
Jul 10 13 11:04 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
KenBrandon
Posts: 196
Dallas, Texas, US


People that go through the trouble to type a whole paragraph complaining, then posting it is several places just need to get a life.

They could have politely declined, or just not responded at all.

I'm sure there is a model somewhere who would be very interested in your project, and would jump at the chance to do something like this - if for no other reason, just for the spirit of what you are doing....it just takes some searching sometimes.

Although I've paid models before (and will in the future), there are sometimes pet projects or just ideas I want to try, and TF opens up the door for this.
If your idea is interesting, there are plenty others that will take a serious look at working with you, so don't worry about the complainers.

And to answer your question, yes, its normal to get people complaining/accusing you about this.
Jul 10 13 11:07 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
-Brad-
Posts: 1,630
Los Angeles, California, US


This is so true. Strange bitter people...

ontherocks wrote:
half the posts on CL are people flaming other people about their original posts. get the popcorn.

Jul 10 13 11:24 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Motordrive Photography
Posts: 2,368
Lodi, California, US


I think the the person replying on CL was angry long before your post
Jul 10 13 11:28 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
PhotographybyT
Posts: 7,604
Monterey, California, US


I've read a few of those types of reposts and the majority of them are geared towards ridiculous offers (i.e., $200 for an 8 hour wedding with disc of all photos and all rights, or shooting a calendar for start up company for "exposure" with possibility of future paid assignments, or creating a company logo for $15, etc.)

Not saying your offer was like any of these, but these are the usual types of offers I've seen in the Creative Gigs section of Craigslist that gets those rant types of responses. I sometimes wonder if they're all written by the same individual. (lol)
Jul 10 13 11:43 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Lumatic
Posts: 13,591
Chicago, Illinois, US


Yep, I've been "educated" by pricks like that off of CL before.   No-life losers with a need to take their desperation out on someone and a lack of the balls to open their mouth like that in real life.  You probably made his day.

http://pics.librarything.com/picsizes/9e/51/9e5164b9ab28dd3593862395241434d414f4541.jpg
Jul 10 13 11:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jeffrey M Fletcher
Posts: 4,319
Asheville, North Carolina, US


Motordrive Photography wrote:
I think the the person replying on CL was angry long before your post

+1

Funny, and true.


The overly controlling whine-bags on CL that police things beyond fraud are a real pain and in some areas have ruined the site for any models or photographers and many others.

Jul 10 13 11:52 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Antediluvian Design
Posts: 1,137
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US


Shannon Hardy wrote:
the troll obviously knows nothing about modeling OR causes. The photos would be just as useful to the model or causee. (yes I know its not a word.) If a person is into a cause deep enough to campaign it, photos like that would be very useful imagery to express the emotion behind what makes it their cause. Like when I see people with cancer ribbons. I know that they are either a very compassionate individual, or they lost someone/know someone who's battling it. It's a deep concept!

Thank you for that insight. You are wise beyond your years Ms Shannon.

Jul 10 13 08:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Green Grape
Posts: 270
West Paterson, New Jersey, US


Marin Photography NYC wrote:
Imagine how many soup kitchens would close with that kind of mentality.

+1

Jul 10 13 08:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Hikari Tech Photography
Posts: 791
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Antediluvian Design wrote:
I solicited services TFP for anyone male or female who wanted to a "cause shoot". That being a shoot that protests some random societal injustice. Like PETA campaigns if you will. This person replied in a full blown harangue about trying to get folks to work for free. He even posted my post telling the CL world how much of an asshole I am. Has this ever happened to any of you?

The irony is I became his cause.

Almost as embarrassing as the time I got thrown out of Tassajara.

Besides the 'technical issues' that abound within craigslist (CL), most users on CL seem to be a little 'off' so don't sweat it. I've had similar experiences for TFP shoots and even selling stuff on CL always gets its share of buyer flakes. It's CL and that should be enough of a warning.

Jul 16 13 08:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Antediluvian Design
Posts: 1,137
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US


de BUEN PHOTOGRAPHY wrote:

Besides the 'technical issues' that abound within craigslist (CL), most users on CL seem to be a little 'off' so don't sweat it. I've had similar experiences for TFP shoots and even selling stuff on CL always gets its share of buyer flakes. It's CL and that should be enough of a warning.

Thanks for that. I like the scooter photo. I am photographing girls on old scooters only right now.

Jul 16 13 09:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 8,045
Olney, Maryland, US


Antediluvian Design wrote:
Has this ever happened to any of you?

No.

Jul 16 13 09:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Karl JW Johnston
Posts: 9,400
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


i'm curious to read what he said haha..cl is full of some weird shit
Jul 16 13 10:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
WildEye Studio
Posts: 629
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


PhotographybyT wrote:
I've read a few of those types of reposts and the majority of them are geared towards ridiculous offers (i.e., $200 for an 8 hour wedding with disc of all photos and all rights, or shooting a calendar for start up company for "exposure" with possibility of future paid assignments, or creating a company logo for $15, etc.)

Not saying your offer was like any of these, but these are the usual types of offers I've seen in the Creative Gigs section of Craigslist that gets those rant types of responses. I sometimes wonder if they're all written by the same individual. (lol)

This+

Jul 16 13 10:13 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Antediluvian Design
Posts: 1,137
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US


This was my post.

Controversial Model to create a buzz (OC)

Looking for (male or female) models who want to create a stir (any age). This is not about porn or sex. It is about exposing hypocracy for the public good. It worked for PETA. Take a stand and make a statement. Dare to have your work be about more than boorish fashion or glamour. Who knows, it might even get you discovered. Serious Inquiries.
Location: OC

it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: Maybe if you are a sellout.
Jul 16 13 10:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 11,781
Olivet, Michigan, US


KenBrandon wrote:
People that go through the trouble to type a whole paragraph complaining, then posting it is several places just need to get a life.

smile

Yep.

Jul 17 13 07:04 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jeffrey M Fletcher
Posts: 4,319
Asheville, North Carolina, US


Antediluvian Design wrote:
This was my post.

Controversial Model to create a buzz (OC)

Looking for (male or female) models who want to create a stir (any age). This is not about porn or sex. It is about exposing hypocracy for the public good. It worked for PETA. Take a stand and make a statement. Dare to have your work be about more than boorish fashion or glamour. Who knows, it might even get you discovered. Serious Inquiries.
Location: OC

it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: Maybe if you are a sellout.

I guess it would have been terribly disappointing to not come up with someone calling you an asshole on that one. I mean, what's a troll post without an aggrieved response.

Jul 17 13 07:23 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Image Magik
Posts: 1,067
New Orleans, Louisiana, US


Antediluvian Design wrote:
I solicited services TFP for anyone male or female who wanted to a "cause shoot". That being a shoot that protests some random societal injustice. Like PETA campaigns if you will. This person replied in a full blown harangue about trying to get folks to work for free. He even posted my post telling the CL world how much of an asshole I am. Has this ever happened to any of you?

The irony is I became his cause.

Almost as embarrassing as the time I got thrown out of Tassajara.

You didn't really become his cause, I think you became his effect.
I wouldn't worry about what people say on craigslist. Just don't reply unless you want them to have your e-mail address. Also post anonymously when possible.

Jul 17 13 07:35 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Juicylicious
Posts: 344
Orlando, Florida, US


Craigslist has become a free soapbox for a lot of weirdos, very angry people and for creepers who otherwise have no life. I posted an ad not long ago, selling my refrigerator, and this guy out of nowhere kept emailing me saying the price is too high ($100 for a 5 year old stainless steel fridge ) and trying so hard to knock me down to $20 and deliver free to him. What a moron.
Jul 17 13 07:47 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Isis22
Posts: 2,336
Muncie, Indiana, US


You made a smart ass post and someone called you out? Duh. If it's gonna happen it will happen on CL.
Jul 17 13 07:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rick Dupuis Photography
Posts: 6,822
Truro, Nova Scotia, Canada


1/3 of the people on CL are nuts. 1/3 are just mean. I made up those stats, but I bet it's pretty close.
Jul 20 13 06:00 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Eralar
Posts: 1,778
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada


If everyone that gets flamed online would post it here, there would be no more room on the forums servers for the other threads wink

Thing is, it's very easy for anyone to sit behind his computer, not having the other person in his face, and shout anything and everything at them.

That's why there are so many flamers / trolls on any internet forums and social medias. I bet 98% of those people would not even have the courage to say very politely that they disagree with someone else in their face.
Jul 20 13 07:09 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Amber Dawn - Colorado
Posts: 6,053
Castle Rock, Colorado, US


Well a lot of people believe when you post on CL and you click you are "looking to hire someone" if you post under talent then that means you are looking to PAY hint the word "HIRE"
Jul 20 13 10:55 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rick OBanion Photo
Posts: 1,341
Saint Catharines-Niagara, Ontario, Canada


Colorado Model Amber wrote:
Well a lot of people believe when you post on CL and you click you are "looking to hire someone" if you post under talent then that means you are looking to PAY hint the word "HIRE"

Anyone who would pay a model from a CL post needs their brain shaken. If you are going to pay a model, come here. Paying someone in that situation is plain silly.

Jul 20 13 11:08 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SuzSimonds
Posts: 19
Henrietta, New York, US


People in general always seem to browse craigslist to just insult people and make a public spectacle out of them. I avoid craigslist as much as I can. It's just a pain because it always turns into some jerk who assumes every post on craigslist is a complete scam reposting your original post saying you're simply trying to take advantage of people.
Jul 21 13 10:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Swank Photography
Posts: 18,987
Key West, Florida, US


Bradley Laurent wrote:
This is so true. Strange bitter people...


Hence why I flatly refuse to use C.L.

Jul 21 13 10:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Clothing Designer
Chain Reaction
Posts: 529
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US


Colorado Model Amber wrote:
Well a lot of people believe when you post on CL and you click you are "looking to hire someone" if you post under talent then that means you are looking to PAY hint the word "HIRE"
Rick OBanion Photo wrote:
Anyone who would pay a model from a CL post needs their brain shaken. If you are going to pay a model, come here. Paying someone in that situation is plain silly.

Amen brother!

Jul 22 13 06:04 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Warren Leimbach
Posts: 2,554
Tampa, Florida, US


Antediluvian Design wrote:
This was my post.

Controversial Model to create a buzz (OC)

Looking for (male or female) models who want to create a stir (any age). This is not about porn or sex. It is about exposing hypocracy for the public good. It worked for PETA. Take a stand and make a statement. Dare to have your work be about more than boorish fashion or glamour. Who knows, it might even get you discovered. Serious Inquiries.
Location: OC

it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: Maybe if you are a sellout.

It's not very clear what you are creating or what is expected.  The "maybe if you are a sellout" line seems needlessly antagonistic.





Where did you post it?

If you post under "jobs" you are supposed to offer wages.

If you post under "gigs" you can offer no pay/deferred pay/TFP.





In your defense, it's the internet and people are looking for things to be outraged about.  Ignore the cranks.

Jul 22 13 10:19 am  Link  Quote 
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