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Photographer
Geo Leon Photography
Posts: 142
Orlando, Florida, US


Currently im using one of Scott Kelby's skin retouching methods which requires using the surface blur filter and using the high pass filter to bring back texture.

Im trying to find another way to retouch my skin because i feel that i can produce better results.

Any suggestions?
Jul 14 13 08:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
MQuadrat
Posts: 54
London, England, United Kingdom


GEO LEON PHOTOGRAPHY wrote:
Currently im using one of Scott Kelby's skin retouching methods which requires using the surface blur filter and using the high pass filter to bring back texture.

Im trying to find another way to retouch my skin because i feel that i can produce better results.

Any suggestions?

i think dodge&burn ist the beste way .. but it takes time and at the beginning it's not so easy

Jul 14 13 10:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ruben Vasquez
Posts: 3,104
Puyallup, Washington, US


MQuadrat wrote:
i think dodge&burn ist the beste way .. but it takes time and at the beginning it's not so easy

+1

Agreed. I think dodge and burn gives the best results as well. It's definitely an acquired skill that takes a lot of practice. Retouching this way can take several hours but once you start getting proficient, you can whittle that time down to an hour or two. So as you can imagine, it's a little difficult to churn out a lot of images using this technique so if you need to produce a lot of images relatively quickly (like you would for a wedding or event), then other, quicker methods would be better.

Here's one of the better write-ups on the topic:
http://nataliataffarel.tumblr.com/post/4551849530/dnb

And if you search "dodge and burn" on youtube, you'll find several tutorials to watch as well.

Jul 14 13 10:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Koray
Posts: 6,687
Ankara, Ankara, Turkey


this is the answer to your question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0byiIcTJ0
Jul 15 13 12:45 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Retouch007
Posts: 403
East Newark, New Jersey, US


learn to use the clone stamp first then maybe the healing/spot healing/patch tool. Try to learn the normal, darken and lighten modes also with those tools.  Last is d&b for finishing you will be spending a lot of time there so pick a way of doing it that you find enjoyable there are several ways. Check out Krunos Dodge and Burn dvd.

Here is what I think is really good instruction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT8ZBSoy_IY
Jul 15 13 03:58 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
CarrieNYC
Posts: 10
New York, New York, US


Take my class and learn how to do skin:


IM doing an advanced retouching workshop THIS WEEKEND at the School of Visual Arts! July 20/21 2013.

Everything is provided; computer, Wacom Tablet, pen and ME, Carrie Beene.

It's not too late to sign up.

Cheers

(Bring a sweater, the AC really WORKS in our studio)
Jul 15 13 02:56 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Geo Leon Photography
Posts: 142
Orlando, Florida, US


CarrieNYC wrote:
Take my class and learn how to do skin:


IM doing an advanced retouching workshop THIS WEEKEND at the School of Visual Arts! July 20/21 2013.

Everything is provided; computer, Wacom Tablet, pen and ME, Carrie Beene.

It's not too late to sign up.

Cheers

(Bring a sweater, the AC really WORKS in our studio)

I would if I lived in NY.

Jul 16 13 05:07 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Laura EB
Posts: 65
Rochester, New York, US


I also learned scott kelby's method when I was starting out as a retoucher because it's a good, fast, basic way of editing for people who are learning.  However now I realize that it really doesn't give good results (blurring anything is bad!).  If you're really, REALLY committed to learning how to edit skin like the professionals, work on your dodging and burning and perhaps invest in a tablet after lots and lots of practice with a mouse.

My technique is a little more complicated than this now but here's the tutorial I watched when I first learned how to D&B

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2i8epv1 … ce=message
Jul 16 13 07:19 am  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
RixDigital
Posts: 159
Crystal Lake, Illinois, US


R G wrote:
Check out Krunos Dodge and Burn dvd.

Here is what I think is really good instruction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT8ZBSoy_IY

Just finished watching this and have to say it's the best video I've seen thus far.  His explanation of the "why" was incredibly helpful.  Near the end of the video he then summarizes each decision point (the why) and applies one layer at a time; nice historical look of how the image was transformed over time.

Jul 17 13 05:35 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mike Fox Photography
Posts: 14
Pearland, Texas, US


Laura Bello wrote:
I also learned scott kelby's method when I was starting out as a retoucher because it's a good, fast, basic way of editing for people who are learning.  However now I realize that it really doesn't give good results (blurring anything is bad!).

I think the point is target audience. Its probably the wrong technique for a photographer wanting to get published. Scotts book pretty much says if you're that guy, don't read his book. He wrote for the photographer looking to touch up a senior portrait, and had 5-10 minutes per image to spend. Within those constraints, there's no way to use the high end techniques. Sure, you'd be laughed out of the industry if you tried to submit the image to Vogue, but little Bobby just wants his zits gone

Jul 24 13 01:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Natalia_Taffarel
Posts: 7,665
Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Argentina


Mike Fox Photography wrote:
but little Bobby just wants his zits gone

That's why I don't like the kelby approach... Do you want to do little Bobby for the rest of your life? Then why waste time on little bobby's portraits?

x

Jul 24 13 02:56 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ACPhotography
Posts: 8,622
Plainview, New York, US


Laura Bello wrote:
I also learned scott kelby's method when I was starting out as a retoucher because it's a good, fast, basic way of editing for people who are learning.  However now I realize that it really doesn't give good results (blurring anything is bad!).  If you're really, REALLY committed to learning how to edit skin like the professionals, work on your dodging and burning and perhaps invest in a tablet after lots and lots of practice with a mouse.

My technique is a little more complicated than this now but here's the tutorial I watched when I first learned how to D&B

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2i8epv1 … ce=message

I tried to sit through his skin retouching seminar when Photoshop world was in Boston a few years ago because there was nothing else going on during that time slot I wanted to go to... I got up and walked out halfway through, it was absolutely horrible to watch.

Learn the frequency separation methods and using the healing or clone tool you will get much better results. Finish up with some old fashioned dodging and burning...

Jul 25 13 07:11 am  Link  Quote 
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