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Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
Ruben Sanchez wrote: How long would it take me to look at 500 images in a critical fashion? Critical fashion on MM?!?!?!?... you can't be serious...
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Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
DOUGLASFOTOS wrote: If you don't have time to surf...well hell u answered ur own question. Sorry I ran out of Dude... you're a 500 image VIP with only 178... still got PLENTY of space...
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RP Chicago
Posts: 230
Chicago, Illinois, US
Select Models wrote: Dude... you're a 500 image VIP with only 178... still got PLENTY of space... I'm a 500 VIP on two ports and I don't have more than 30 or 40 on each. Way too many as it is. 25-35 is about right.
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Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
L A U B E N H E I M E R wrote: 17.2MB. wow! https://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/cGU43s … 23/viewall my portfolio is only 1.2MB Awwwww come onnnnnnn dude... using that tester... it took less than 8 seconds to load the entire 500 thumbnail image page. You're just tryin to bust my chops... right?...
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Frozen Instant Imagery
Posts: 4152
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
500 is an impressive number, but I'd prefer to see them split up and categorised into albums.
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Laubenheimer
Posts: 9317
New York, New York, US
Select Models wrote: Awwwww come onnnnnnn dude... using that tester... it took less than 8 seconds to load the entire 500 thumbnail image page. You're just tryin to bust my chops... right?... it took about 33 hours with my 1200 baud modem. guess i'd better pack that overnight bag.
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Good Egg Productions
Posts: 16713
Orlando, Florida, US
L A U B E N H E I M E R wrote: it took about 33 hours with my 1200 baud modem. guess i'd better pack that overnight bag. Is that the one with the cradle that you put the handset on, or is it a discrete box?
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Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
L A U B E N H E I M E R wrote: it took about 33 hours with my 1200 baud modem. guess i'd better pack that overnight bag. Hmmmmm... oooooook... you still usin Wells Fargo and carrier pigeons for your mail service?... ...
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Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
L A U B E N H E I M E R wrote: it took about 33 hours with my 1200 baud modem. guess i'd better pack that overnight bag. Fur sure... brings a whole new meaning to 'snail mail'...
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Robert Randall
Posts: 13890
Chicago, Illinois, US
GPS Studio Services wrote: This is not a slam, but do you really expect anyone to look at 500 images? I thought it was great... I scrolled through all 500 in less than a minute and I still found one that was truly interesting. I can honestly say that up until today, I've never seen a cheesecake model holding a dead fish on the end of a make believe spear. Kudos to your individualism!
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Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
Robert Randall wrote: I thought it was great... I scrolled through all 500 in less than a minute and I still found one that was truly interesting. I can honestly say that up until today, I've never seen a cheesecake model holding a dead fish on the end of a make believe spear. Kudos to your individualism! Awwww thanks... but alittle heads up on the pic you mentioned... Shodire is anything but cheesecake... and the spear was the real deal...
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Good Egg Productions
Posts: 16713
Orlando, Florida, US
I would never post 500 photos here. Can you imagine how much work it would be to credit all of those models and MUAs and stylists??!!! Way too much work.
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Chuckarelei
Posts: 11271
Seattle, Washington, US
Good Egg Productions wrote: I would never post 500 photos here. Can you imagine how much work it would be to credit all of those models and MUAs and stylists??!!! Way too much work. crediting is not the hard part. Try organizing and rearranging them.
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JAE
Posts: 2207
West Chester, Pennsylvania, US
MM is the slowest site on the internet. I wouldn't want to make someone load 500 images here
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michael___
Posts: 303
New York, New York, US
crediting, arranging, and organizing 500 images isn't the issue; the issue for me is having 500 images on a portfolio. I don't think a portfolio should ever be exhaustive but ofcourse everyone's standards are different. I think 50 is even too much and I'm sure many more people here are OK with that number.
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KonstantKarma
Posts: 2513
Campobello, South Carolina, US
500 pics.. sure, at the end of a shoot before starting to edit. On a web portfolio? No way, nobody wants to look through that many photos. My 75 on here is already overkill.
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Beautifully Soft Focus
Posts: 533
Plano, Texas, US
Good Egg Productions wrote: I'm not hating. Gary is good at what he does. But 500 of ANYTHING is too many anythings to truly appreciate each one. His collection is impressive as a collection. Consider this. I do that white doorway series. I've shot 114 different people in different white outfits in the doorway. They're all slightly different, but how many do you need to see to understand what it is and decide (as a model) if you want to do one? 20? 8? 3? Certainly not all 114. I feel ya, but to be fair to Gary I don't think I saw the a single model with the same background used in another image (well if you count the ocean then yeah), but even those they are unique) he's got 500 unique images posed and they all great to outstanding.
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michael___
Posts: 303
New York, New York, US
Beautifully Soft Focus wrote: I feel ya, but to be fair to Gary I don't think I saw the a single model with the same background used in another image (well if you count the ocean then yeah), but even those they are unique) he's got 500 unique images posed and they all great to outstanding. I don't see it as an issue of being unique or not. I think that 500 is simply too much. You don't need 500 images to get a sense of one's style. Well I think 500+ images is great for a blog/flickr/etc. but not on MM. Ofcourse this is my opinion alone, if I were really interested in someone's work, then I'd prefer to see an extended portfolio off MM.
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Laubenheimer
Posts: 9317
New York, New York, US
Good Egg Productions wrote: Is that the one with the cradle that you put the handset on, or is it a discrete box? discrete box.
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PhillipM
Posts: 8049
Nashville, Tennessee, US
500 images? Hell no. I have nothing to prove...
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Vector One Photography
Posts: 3722
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US
Seems silly to me. So does: They call me 'The Chuck Norris of Model Photography' because: 1. Out of every 10 shots I take, 11 are keepers. 2. All images I capture are edited to perfection at the time of exposure. 3. I never have to focus. Models run back and forth in front of my camera and stop when they're perfectly sharp. 4. All my cameras possess force fields to repel rain, snow, hail and all harsh elements. 5. I never flip my camera to portrait position, the Earth rotates for me. 6. Frequently referred to as 'The High Dynamic Ranger', all images I capture display perfect contrast, hue and saturation. 7. The right focal length lens for the subject is always on my camera. 8. I never have to use flash as the sun and moon move to the perfect lighting placement for every shot. 9. Slow shutterspeeds are not a problem as all subjects freeze in my presense. 10. The wind blowing around me will toss the models hair perfectly, while never disturbing my lightstands. 11. I never have to adjust my white balance. The world shifts it's color to suit my taste. 12. I have no need for light meters. Each scene will adjust its brightness to provide me with correct exposure.
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Robert Randall
Posts: 13890
Chicago, Illinois, US
Select Models wrote: Awwww thanks... but alittle heads up on the pic you mentioned... Shodire is anything but cheesecake... and the spear was the real deal...
From Wikipedia... "A pin-up girl, also known as a pin-up model, is a model whose mass-produced pictures see wide appeal as popular culture. Pin-ups are intended for informal display, e.g. meant to be "pinned-up" on a wall. Pin-up girls may be glamour models, fashion models, or actresses. These pictures are also known as cheesecake photos." From the looks of it, and given the opportunity, I'd pin her up all over the place. But the real question in all of this... what the heck is she gonna do with that fish?
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SKITA Studios
Posts: 1572
Boston, Massachusetts, US
eek..at least put them into folders so your browser doesn't try to suck down 500 thumbnails at once :-P
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David Kirk
Posts: 4852
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Good Egg Productions wrote: I'm not hating. Gary is good at what he does. But 500 of ANYTHING is too many anythings to truly appreciate each one. His collection is impressive as a collection. Consider this. I do that white doorway series. I've shot 114 different people in different white outfits in the doorway. They're all slightly different, but how many do you need to see to understand what it is and decide (as a model) if you want to do one? 20? 8? 3? Certainly not all 114. one.
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Robb Mann
Posts: 12327
Baltimore, Maryland, US
Im a VIP. Not sure I have 50 images yet...
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Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
Vector One Photography wrote: Seems silly to me. So does: They call me 'The Chuck Norris of Model Photography' because: 1. Out of every 10 shots I take, 11 are keepers. 2. All images I capture are edited to perfection at the time of exposure. 3. I never have to focus. Models run back and forth in front of my camera and stop when they're perfectly sharp. 4. All my cameras possess force fields to repel rain, snow, hail and all harsh elements. 5. I never flip my camera to portrait position, the Earth rotates for me. 6. Frequently referred to as 'The High Dynamic Ranger', all images I capture display perfect contrast, hue and saturation. 7. The right focal length lens for the subject is always on my camera. 8. I never have to use flash as the sun and moon move to the perfect lighting placement for every shot. 9. Slow shutterspeeds are not a problem as all subjects freeze in my presense. 10. The wind blowing around me will toss the models hair perfectly, while never disturbing my lightstands. 11. I never have to adjust my white balance. The world shifts it's color to suit my taste. 12. I have no need for light meters. Each scene will adjust its brightness to provide me with correct exposure. Dude... you MUST have a sense of humor to even relate to all this nonsense... I mean come onnnnnnn... how could the Earth possibly rotate to the portrait position for ANYONE... ... even Chuck Norris...
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Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
SKITA Studios wrote: eek..at least put them into folders so your browser doesn't try to suck down 500 thumbnails at once :-P But the FireFox browser has a VORACIOUS appetite for thumbnails... ... a few seconds and 'bodda-bing-bodda-boom'...
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Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
MCPHOTO wrote: Never thought about needing 500 images on here. Over 8 years ago... I never thought about it either...
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Art Silva
Posts: 10064
Santa Barbara, California, US
I had a couple hundred at one point and noticed the ones beyond the first 20 were gradually not getting views. I then downgraded my membership to FREE and went back to 20 (now 30) after MM's upgrade. I'm more of the minimalist when it comes to stuff... "do just a few but do it well" is my mantra.
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L Cowles Photography
Posts: 833
Sun City West, Arizona, US
I never look past the 1st or 2nd page unless it is an outstanding port.
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UCPhotog
Posts: 998
Hartford, Connecticut, US
RennsportPhotography wrote: For most people that is far too many but your business model is different than most in that you are promoting your workshops and the more excellent shots of great models and locations the better. Plus it provides promotion for the models. IMO there are few photographers or models that benefit from more than 30 shots, some of course after 150 you want to see more because of the quality. When I was on OPM I had over 300 and it was likely 200 too many. +1 I agree - Gary's business is quite a bit different than just a photographer. Between promoting the models, the workshops and himself, I can see the 500. Gary - do you have it sorted so you could tell someone, "go to page 3 (or 30 or whatever) to see this type of work"? I have 46 in a printed portfolio and I'm wanting to get it down to 40. But I have the port set up so it can be opened from either side. One side is more models, the other side more architecture and man made art, with a large colored dividing page between. Yeah, I should have two portfolios, but sometimes it's nice being able to show the variety of work in one book.
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Instinct Images
Posts: 23162
San Diego, California, US
How long does someone even have to wait for the page to load when there are 500 images to load? I'd say that having tons of images with few views is a hint that you have too many images.
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Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
UCPhotog wrote: Gary - do you have it sorted so you could tell someone, "go to page 3 (or 30 or whatever) to see this type of work"? Nah... no multiple pages to surf thru... scrolling down one big page will eventually get you to where you wanna be...
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American Glamour
Posts: 38813
Detroit, Michigan, US
RennsportPhotography wrote: For most people that is far too many but your business model is different than most in that you are promoting your workshops and the more excellent shots of great models and locations the better. Plus it provides promotion for the models. IMO there are few photographers or models that benefit from more than 30 shots, some of course after 150 you want to see more because of the quality. When I was on OPM I had over 300 and it was likely 200 too many. UCPhotog wrote: +1 I agree - Gary's business is quite a bit different than just a photographer. Between promoting the models, the workshops and himself, I can see the 500. Gary - do you have it sorted so you could tell someone, "go to page 3 (or 30 or whatever) to see this type of work"? I have 46 in a printed portfolio and I'm wanting to get it down to 40. But I have the port set up so it can be opened from either side. One side is more models, the other side more architecture and man made art, with a large colored dividing page between. Yeah, I should have two portfolios, but sometimes it's nice being able to show the variety of work in one book. For the record, I have over 12,000 images posted on my meetup group by attendees of my events. Those images are in the process of being ported over to my event site. Part of me understands Gary's reasoning. Nobody is questioning his photographic skills. I am torn between having a lot of images and having something more concise for a model or photographer to see. Then again, I am not one to talk because of the number we have posted. Of course, our images are posted by event. Gary's are just images in general. So, I am neither for or against it. I just wonder if a viewer is overwhelmed by so many unsorted images in one place. On the other hand, they do get to see some great images.
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Srefis
Posts: 960
Asheville, North Carolina, US
Ok.. Well I looked at your profile.. And your #1 makes me want to punch you in the face. But! I also saw that you do Taco Tuesdays and that is badass! So I forgive you and think you are awesome! Tacos rule! I am up to 400+ photos on my deviant art page www.srefislimited.deviantart.com but not on MM that way yet. It would take me a while to catch MM up on everything I do on dA...
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Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
Srefis Limited wrote: Ok.. Well I looked at your profile.. And your #1 makes me want to punch you in the face. But! I also saw that you do Taco Tuesdays and that is badass! So I forgive you and think you are awesome! Tacos rule! WOW... well I'm glad you're in North Carolina. That punch may have a rough time making it to CA... but... you're definitely welcome to attend Taco Tuesday. Had 5 tables of TT party animals last week and ALL MM members and their friends are welcome to attend...
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Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
Beautifully Soft Focus wrote: I feel ya, but to be fair to Gary I don't think I saw the a single model with the same background used in another image (well if you count the ocean then yeah), but even those they are unique) he's got 500 unique images posed and they all great to outstanding. Hey thanks for the kudos... but I guess I gotta blow the whistle on myself. I used the purple and black muslin in studio room number one a couple of times on a few different shots... and maybe a few curtain shots from studio room number two...
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Chris David Photography
Posts: 561
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Sometimes it feels the max number of images we can upload is what we claim is enough. I.e. 20 images is more then enough (since I can only upload 20). When I first signed up I did the whole image strip thing just to get more images showing - now the limits gone to 100 then 200 I started back to single images when I do get time to upload. Now the limits 500 - if I find a few free days to organise and re-upload strips and new works that 500 new limit is actually easy to max out. Its probably more a gallery then portfolio at this stage. I do agree its an extreme amount and don't expect anyone to look at all the images but I think it gas done a few things that have helped me in the past getting paid projects/contracts. It shows consistency of work - both good and bad days and the quality they will realistically receive. It cuts down the amount of questions to do with these issues. Public perception which works more on psychology then anything - More images/Better status (Premium/VIP) receives a better perceived value of being more professional/experienced.
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Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
Chris David Photography wrote: It shows consistency of work - More images/Better status (Premium/VIP) receives a better perceived value of being more professional/experienced. +1
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