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Style By Geraldine
Posts: 78
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore


LOL this is to be taken half jokingly, half seriously and absolutely stylishly.

I would love to hear why my fellow stylists here have to submit.

1) Random Fact 1: I think i spend more time coordinating with designers, photographers and make up artists then actually styling!

2) Random Fact 2: Omg is it just me or did I just grow stronger from before I started becoming a stylist?

3) Random Fact 3: Some people think I have a warehouse full of clothes that's always in season >_<

Submit yours!
Sep 10 13 05:35 am  Link  Quote 
Wardrobe Stylist
Tiffany_B
Posts: 1,325
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, US


I think the biggest misconceptions I've come across are 1) people assuming that when I say I'm a stylist I do hair and make-up in addition to bringing clothes 2) people assuming that I have access to every article of clothing in existence, in the appropriate size and 3) models not realizing that lying about their size or incorrectly measuring themselves is a huge problem (I always size up in samples if possible if the model isn't someone I've worked with).
Sep 10 13 03:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Wardrobe Stylist
Style By Geraldine
Posts: 78
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore


Tiffany_B wrote:
I think the biggest misconceptions I've come across are 1) people assuming that when I say I'm a stylist I do hair and make-up in addition to bringing clothes 2) people assuming that I have access to every article of clothing in existence, in the appropriate size and 3) models not realizing that lying about their size or incorrectly measuring themselves is a huge problem (I always size up in samples if possible if the model isn't someone I've worked with).

Yeap! I feel you! Especially on No2.

Sep 10 13 07:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Wardrobe Stylist
Style and Shoot
Posts: 211
Los Angeles, California, US


Back in the day when the economy was better-and I had more time, I would take some models with me for fittings and shopping. It made the shoot a lot easier.

Since I don't pull always from designers, as sometimes you have to buy and return- it hard to take the risk with less of a credit line to do that with-

Photographers take no risk
Stylist take a risk on a damaged item that has to go back to store of whomever it was pulled from.
Its hard, but in this economy. The photographer should be placing a security deposit as it is his responsibilty if the model ruins the clothes-- bad bady odor or makeup artist gets make up on it etc.

Plain and simple.

The full day or more of going to get the clothes is really my day rate, No one will pay that anymore.
I now ask for deposits on some jobs- you shop and pull, he shoot gets cancelled at the last minute- you wasted your time

Plain and simple
Sep 17 13 07:53 am  Link  Quote 
Wardrobe Stylist
Melyssa White
Posts: 2
New York, New York, US


Oh yes I agree to all 3! The most annoying is #3. I have such a hard time getting clothing as a up & coming stylist that I always wonder how to did the big name stylists get past this point! Photographers will contact me the week or even the day of & want to shoot. NO BUDGET...NO PAY NO LOR & then have nerve to send over photos of tons of looks they want. I have no problem with inspiration but you get what I bring! Besides for a TEST SHOOT it is unfair to have all of these expectations for a stylist. We have so much at stake when it comes to working on shoots & all photographers & models have to do is just show up!
Sep 17 13 12:54 pm  Link  Quote 
Wardrobe Stylist
Style By Geraldine
Posts: 78
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore


Melyssa White wrote:
Oh yes I agree to all 3! The most annoying is #3. I have such a hard time getting clothing as a up & coming stylist that I always wonder how to did the big name stylists get past this point! Photographers will contact me the week or even the day of & want to shoot. NO BUDGET...NO PAY NO LOR & then have nerve to send over photos of tons of looks they want. I have no problem with inspiration but you get what I bring! Besides for a TEST SHOOT it is unfair to have all of these expectations for a stylist. We have so much at stake when it comes to working on shoots & all photographers & models have to do is just show up!

Story of our lives, the most ridiculous ones are those who throw you moodboards of immaculate gowns and haute couture and expect something of similar look in our wardrobes. I have to keep educating some photographers or clients that I do not keep gowns in my wardrobe as they change with the season.

I got one more to add, 4) To clients, the 'crazy' amount you see in our quotations is not just for us to show up on set with clothes, a lot of time is actually spent coordinating and hunting for the right clothes with the right budget for the shoot. Sometimes it takes a few days because the boutiques are in different areas and we need to accommodate time for clients who make changes to the looks.

Most of the stylist work I believe, is what clients, photographers don't see. It's the pre shoot prep work and post shoot madness of returning loaned clothes and accessory. Sometimes to save cost we even do our own dry cleaning. smile #justsaying

Sep 18 13 01:38 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Herman van Gestel
Posts: 2,149
Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands


-stylists think they need direct photographers...but what if the photographer is the art-director wink ( i actually had a well-known stylist who i commissioned work to, and she stipulates that she will select the photographer,..."stylists select photographers not the other way round"  she said)

-producing is something else than styling...all the costs for coordination with models and photographers and clients and communication is actually production and need to be labelled as production-costs...sometimes it's the stylist, sometimes the photographer, sometimes the production-manager

-stylists think often that photographers don't know about styling and concepts...(maybe not used that photographers have actually art-cademy including photography, fashion and industrial design)

-styling and photography if you're doing it yourself are hell as you have twice as many bags to clean up, carry and transport :p (and returning to the couturiers and rentals (flashes))


and now more general wink
-models don't wait until the stylist helps them with taking off the clothing...as the items need to be verified and labelled and need assistance due to the delicate nature of items
-styling does takes quite some time in preparation, a fact not well aware off...stylist need practically 2 weeks advanced notice, and  1 day actually shopping (ideally) and 1 day return day (ideally)
-moodboards is not the same as a storyboard...it's about the mood one tries to evoke, storyboard is more detailed and exact


Herman
Sep 18 13 11:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Wardrobe Stylist
Alannah Jones Styling
Posts: 932
Long Beach, California, US


one thing that bothers me is when people send me a vague list of clothing that they need like a day before the shoot.My personal styling clients don't even do that to me!
Sep 26 13 02:59 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Camerosity
Posts: 5,098
Saint Louis, Missouri, US


Alannah Jones Styling wrote:
one thing that bothers me is when people send me a vague list of clothing that they need like a day before the shoot.My personal styling clients don't even do that to me!

I always thought the best way to work with a stylist is to explain (to the stylist and other team members) the look you're trying to achieve, maybe with a few suggestions and let the stylist put the wardrobe together, rather than just giving the stylist a shopping list of clothes to find.

Sep 27 13 12:04 am  Link  Quote 
Wardrobe Stylist
Tiffany_B
Posts: 1,325
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, US


Camerosity wrote:

I always thought the best way to work with a stylist is to explain (to the stylist and other team members) the look you're trying to achieve, maybe with a few suggestions and let the stylist put the wardrobe together, rather than just giving the stylist a shopping list of clothes to find.

You're right but I think what Alannah was more peeved about was the time frame provided e.g. it's one thing to receive a concept several weeks in advance or even just a week prior to the shoot which leaves room for conversation and time to pick up and alter clothes if necessary and a completely different thing for someone to contact you with 24 hours notice with that same information. It's even worse when they expect this for TF* or "exposure".

Sep 27 13 10:20 am  Link  Quote 
Wardrobe Stylist
Alannah Jones Styling
Posts: 932
Long Beach, California, US


Tiffany_B wrote:

You're right but I think what Alannah was more peeved about was the time frame provided e.g. it's one thing to receive a concept several weeks in advance or even just a week prior to the shoot which leaves room for conversation and time to pick up and alter clothes if necessary and a completely different thing for someone to contact you with 24 hours notice with that same information. It's even worse when they expect this for TF* or "exposure".

Exactly!

Sep 27 13 02:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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